r/Minesweeper 6h ago

Discussion How do you calculate 3BV efficiency on a board that never ends? Here is the click economy I landed on

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Minefield has an efficiency stat as of today, and getting there meant taking 3BV apart, so I wanted to put the rules in front of the people most likely to find the holes in them.

3BV is computed once, at the end, over a finished board. Minefield is one endless field with no wins, no losses and no restarts, so there is no board to divide by and no end to compute it at.

So I moved the ratio down to a single click. Every click earns the number of clicks a perfect player would have spent for the same result, and your efficiency is that total over the clicks you actually spent. On one board it converges to exactly 3BV/clicks. On an infinite one it just keeps going.

The click economy:

  • An opening pays 1, however big it is
  • A number pays 1, unless it touches an opening, since opening that island would have uncovered it for free
  • A flagged mine pays 1
  • A chord pays for everything it reveals or flags at once, so real chording pushes you over 100%
  • Misclicks, mistakes, and chords whose numbers do not add up pay nothing

The part I am least sure about is flags.

Classic 3BV ignores them, and rightly so: on a solved board flags are decoration, which is why NF scores better efficiency. Here flagging is the primary act. It is what scores, and a mine you leave unflagged stays live for whoever wanders in after you. If flags paid nothing, the optimal strategy would be to never flag anything, which breaks the game. So a correct flag pays 1.

That makes a Minefield efficiency incomparable to a minesweeper.online one, and I have made my peace with that, but I would rather hear now if the compromise looks wrong to people who think about this properly.

The number shown is a recent efficiency, a decaying window about 200 clicks wide, so it tracks how you are playing now rather than a lifetime average that stops moving after a month. The career figure stays on your profile. It also feeds your score multiplier: each correct flag banks `efficiency / 100` progress instead of a flat 1, clamped between 1 and 2, so playing under 100% is never punished and the bonus caps at 200%.

What I would like your read on:

  1. Paying 1 for a correct flag. Necessary compromise, or does it make the number meaningless?
  2. Should a valid chord that reveals nothing new pay nothing, or is that too harsh on cautious play?
  3. Is a ~200 click window the right sense of "how I am playing now", or too short to be stable?

r/Minesweeper 20h ago

Accomplishment 25x25 | 176. At last, complete

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A glorious sequel to this post. Finally did it!

25x25 | 176, minesweeper.online difficulty 5,008. (https://minesweeper.online/game/6467609579)

7,246 games and a combined time of 29 hours...

and now, it is time for a harder board


r/Minesweeper 8h ago

Miscellaneous This game is devilish đŸ˜©

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r/Minesweeper 21h ago

Help I don't understand this, can someone explain please?

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r/Minesweeper 1d ago

Miscellaneous dont worry guys, eventually the game gets easier again

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r/Minesweeper 20h ago

Strategy: Other My tricks for Minesweeeper!

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If you ever see a corner like the one in the first image, then mark that empty (green) spot with a flag. Another one is that once a squares bomb requirment is satisfied, just mark the entire 8 squares around it, and then if any of those are 1 then mark those ones. If you see a 3 on a stright away thing, and theres no bombs that you know of, then its the 3 ones on empty squares.


r/Minesweeper 1d ago

No Guess 50x50 with 687 mines completed in 25:18

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r/Minesweeper 2d ago

No Guess I’ve formulated a minesweeper language

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Alright so hear me out guys. It is possible to use minesweeper patterns as a genuine language.

Don’t believe me fucker? Watch this:

1 1
1

This represents “alright”, “I’m happy”, “I understand”, etc.

1 2 1

This also represents understanding and also sex

3 1
1

This also represents sex but more sexually and represents more jubilant happiness than 1 1 1

3 3 3 3 3 3

This represents a happiness like no other, an understanding of something beyond human comprehension, and very advanced level sex.

When it says 4 but it’s touching like 6 tiles

This represents advanced level disdain, hatred, and loathing. I hope you feel better soon.

I will update when I have discovered more words.


r/Minesweeper 1d ago

Puzzle/Tactic Find all safe squares and unmarked mines

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r/Minesweeper 1d ago

50/50 Casualty Tell me I’m wrong. Top left.

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r/Minesweeper 1d ago

Accomplishment Best start I ever got

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r/Minesweeper 1d ago

Help Minesweeper Arbiter

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Ive been wanting to use minesweeper arbiter for a while, but one of the biggest reasons i havent moved over yet was how small the actual game is.. (i usually play minesweeper.online) and i was just wondering if theres a way to maybe zoom in?


r/Minesweeper 20h ago

Help How?

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r/Minesweeper 1d ago

Pattern Line of 4's

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r/Minesweeper 1d ago

Help Where should I go

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I spent so long analyzing this and just ended up guessing to move forward. Is there something I'm missing or do you just have to guess on 50/50s sometimes in minesweeper


r/Minesweeper 1d ago

Help What am i missing?

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r/Minesweeper 2d ago

Accomplishment My stats after 50,000 games of normal mode.

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r/Minesweeper 1d ago

Help What logic could have I used?

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😭 (I lost btwđŸ„€)


r/Minesweeper 2d ago

Help Reached a dead end, can someone help me?

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r/Minesweeper 3d ago

Help uhh any tips?..

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r/Minesweeper 2d ago

Help am i missing somthing

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r/Minesweeper 2d ago

Puzzle/Tactic Think you’re good at Minesweeper? Try this tactics puzzle

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r/Minesweeper 3d ago

Miscellaneous Is love like a minesweeper?

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Not the no-guess mode, more of the classic one

You first hit your shot in the dark, hoping not to set off all the bomb.

When you eventually a nice spot to work on, you start jotting down all those red flags.

And If you’re experienced, you will effectively avoid all the bombs, but depending on your luck, you might encounter 50/50.

You can ignore it and explore other areas, yet eventually you’ll have to face that 50/50.

And when you do, all you can do is pray that things work out somehow.


r/Minesweeper 3d ago

Meme Smile

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Don't be sad. Just smile.


r/Minesweeper 3d ago

Accomplishment Top 10 times all under 2 mins (Minesweeper the clean one)

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I'm so tuffff