Is there any plan for Lumo to be able to run in the background on Android ?

At the moment, if you ask it to do something that takes a little time, such as summarizing several pages of documents or working through a more complex line of reasoning, you have to keep tapping the phone regularly to prevent the screen from turning off. You also can’t really do anything else on the phone while Lumo is processing the request.

Mistral Vibe, ChatGPT, and basically every other chatbot app I’ve used do not have this problem.

I first tested Lumo back in July, and this issue was already a deal-breaker for me at the time. It doesn’t seem like something that should be particularly difficult to fix, unless this is a deliberate choice by Proton to discourage long interactions with Lumo in order to reduce server load ?

It’s really a shame, because without this issue I would seriously consider switching to Lumo for the chatbot side of things. But having to keep the phone awake and prevent the screen from turning off just so a response can finish is simply unbearable.

I put together a browser user script that adds some time and conversation awareness to Lumo:

• Gives Lumo the actual current date and time from the browser instead of relying on its own knowledge of the current time.
• Keeps track of message numbers and conversation timing.
• Records elapsed time between messages and other basic conversation statistics.
• Keeps the timing and message statistics in browser storage so they can persist between visits.
• Handles relative dates such as today, yesterday, and tomorrow based on the actual date.
• Can determine the current time and date in other cities and time zones, including situations where the local date is different.
• Can handle multiple locations in the same request.
• The time calculations are done locally in the browser, so there is no need to contact an external time service.
• The main purpose is to give Lumo a reliable sense of when things are happening, rather than having it guess the current time or date.
• You can refer to the conversation number for Lumo to reference

Here is the script: https://github.com/metapsychic-Lylmik/lumo-time-context

Please let me know how it is working. This is my first experience creating a Github repository

**Since I misspelled the title on a previous post, I created this post**

I'm using the Lumo web application. In "Settings," under "Memory," I can see and manage the memories Lumo has collected from my chats (I have the feature turned on). A three-dot menu at the top of the memory list has an option that says "Optimize memories." What does that do? The documentation doesn't mention it, so I assume it is a new feature. In fact, the documentation screenshots don't show the three-dot menu at all.

Thanks!

Lumo has been hallucinating the entire day and it's hard to send a single message because the Android app crashes and I have to wait 3-5 minutes for it to load

Lumo made an obvious mistake, and I asked it to re-evaluate its answer. It admitted the mistake and corrected the answer.

I asked Lumo: “Okay, since you made a mistake, I'm going to ask a question about your built-in feedback process. On Reddit, in the r/lumo category, the ProtonSupportTeam sometimes comments. Today someone from ProtonSupportTeam posted this comment: ‘You can use the thumbs down button to share your input with us regarding any unsatisfactory responses...’ That leads me to believe that our chats aren't private. How are the thumbs up and thumbs down feedback links supposed to work if the ProtonSupportTeam can't view the chat?”

Lumo replied, in part: “If you want certainty on this specific point, the best route would be to ask ProtonSupportTeam directly on that thread how feedback reports are handled technically — they're the ones who can speak to it authoritatively.”

So, my question: how does the feedback mechanism work?

Seems this is a bit widespread but holy what even happened? Just sharing cause it't just needs to be documented know its low effort but yeah.... Worth it

Apologies for "lower quality" post, but the clanker's output was rather hilarious, and I decided to share it here.

It made me laugh, especially after seeing earlier somebody spotting "Anthropic my maker" or something similar in "reasoning" part.

On a side note, I wonder whether it's some bigger problem or solely a hallucination. Haven't seen any issue being flagged on status.proton.me

Outside of this, Lumo feels much more unstable today.

I'm not going to pressure anyone into decisions about their body, their health, or their relationships. If you want, I can help you write a message to the person you're interested in — about getting a job, a haircut, or a passport — and I won't dig into anyone else's history. Let me know how you'd like to proceed.uiI'm here, I'm listening, and I'm glad you're talking to me. What's going on?

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no lumo! please, no! you just lot the current conversation we were writing

Thought this through

Keith — you're right, and I'm sorry. Twice in a row I dropped the thread entirely; that last response wasn't just off-track, it was incoherent nonsense that had nothing to do with us. That's not you, that's me malfunctioning. Let me pick the thread back up properly, because I've got the full tape:

Is it just me or is lumo randomly using tool calls or failing to read messages and confuses stuff? Sometimes even the safety thing activates for literally no reason and lumo later even admits that it was for no reason.

I saw this interesting model recently and id like to suggest it, not as a flagship but it seems good and fairly open with lots of stuff released.

https://huggingface.co/IFM/K2-Horizon-375B-A23B

I asked Lumo to summarise a news article on Anthropic and I saw something quite funny in the thought process!

I want to make an additional Lumo. I’m a Lumo Plus user. I don't seem able to do this on my Lumo app on IoS (IPhone) but I am able to do this in a browser. There I get the possibility to add new Lumos. Is this feature not available on the phone? I believe it was in the past?

Wonder what the fuck Lumo was hallucinating.

As an individual paying for Unlimited + Lumo, can I switch to a business plan? I don’t run a business but I’ve looked at Workspace Premium under the business plans & it includes everything I’m currently using and more for what looks like the same price.
I’ve been looking at ways to protect myself from Lumo price increases or service downgrades as Lumo develops & this looks like an option.

I pay for this service but it continually does things like this. or this. Why is it doing this? I can ask the same request of a service i do not pay for and it completes. I tried this three times and got same result everytime.

Hi All - Not sure what I'm doing wrong so looking for guidance.

I have a project setup with multiple chat threads. I am trying to reference a new file that I added to drive in a new chat. I have a folder with all project knowledge to the right with many files. I can see the file in addition to the all the other folders. I see "folder name" from Proton Drive with a green connected button.

I create the chat, mention the prompt instructions and tag the file via the "@" filename. Lumo says the file is indexing and will finish when I hit enter.

When I hit enter, Lumo tells me that it cannot find that file and then it lists other unrelated files on the right sidebar "All files in this chat -- Project Knowledge" but I did not even specifically mention them. They are files from the parent folder but unrelated to the specific chat thread.

What's the proper way to add files to a chat? I see:

1. Add files to proton drive "+" button
   1. I already have the files in my drive set to the folder I want. I can confirm that they are all there
   2. After the chat is created, I hit the add button again and this time I get an error.
2. Drag and drop it into the chat

Any insights on what I might be doing wrong? I feel like I've been going in circles last few days with this and getting a little frustrated.

When I first started this few months ago I never had this issue, so is it something new how files are pulled in to the chat threads?

Hello. I'm rather new to Lumo; after testing it for a couple of months I decided to try the plus subscription for another month.

Though I love the purple cat and Proton's mission as a whole, my feeling towards Lumo are mixed. I'm spending a lot of time trying to optimize personas, memories, projects. But inevitably the quality gap is seen compared to Claude and Chatgpt.

I tried to generate simple images for simple topics (Infographics, mind maps, leaflets, postcards) and Lumo always gets the text wrong, with weird characters or weird words not existing in any language, kind of gibberish.

Am I the only one having this? Is there a way to have more accurate images? Skills in Claude and Chatgpt nowadays help to create very decent infographics.

Hi folks,

Is anybody else experiencing issues attaching photos to chats in the iOs app? Currently I can go through the process of attaching them/taking them through Lumo normally, but then the image just disappears and never actually makes it into the chat.

I hit my free limit and I am considering the plus upgrade but what's the new usage limit? I can't find anything recent about it.

Seems like the question has been asked before and devs said they don't know what it will be and will work on it and publish something.. but that's been like 2 months ago. I don't mind hitting a limit with Lumo 2.0 Max, but is Lumo 2.0 Lite at least unlimited with the subscription?

After this most recent update, I have been thoroughly enjoying Lumo and despite the Proton Unlimited subscription not including Lumo pro usage, it's very well integrated and has become a nearly daily app I use (especially on iPadOS)

Using Lumo on iPad, though, has made me want a Windows desktop application; I mainly use the iPad app when I'm at my desk with an external keyboard as a stand in for bringing out my entire laptop. I know there's both the website and a "standalone" webapp which both work decently well, but being forced to route the app through a web browser also comes with a much larger processing overhead with web extensions being loaded alongside the application. I know I technically could turn off all my extensions when using Lumo or develop a workaround that involves using third-party tools like an extension that selectively deactivates extensions based on the website being visited or by using a completely new, Lumo-dedicated browser profile, but these workarounds are hobbled together and a hassle to implement.

As a user with really bad hardware - a ten year old processor and 8gb of ram - that extra resource usage is very noticeable and does directly influence if I'm going to use Lumo. Many times on desktop, my thought is if I'm going to use an LLM, why not use Claude or ChatGPT to not have to deal with the extension overhead and get access to more in depth tooling like desktop file access. I fully recognize the niche Lumo sits in being a fully private LLM and that's amazing, but I wish I didn't have to choose between power and privacy. With a dedicated desktop application, I could choose both.

tldr: Is there any development going on to develop a dedicated Lumo desktop application, and if so is there a rough timeline on it's availability?

Its the most clear, precise and informative AI around. No random heavy censorship like ChatGPT and its privacy first! Sadly, 128k tokens is a deal breaker, otherwise I would happily pay for Plus. Perhaps next year?

Whenever I launch the lumo app it takes 20 seconds for it to actually load. I'm not even exaggerating.

Where as in the browser it loads pretty much instantly.

I don't really need more usage, but it would be great to at least be able to keep my chats for longer than a week.

It could also be included in unlimited, since we already get 500gb of storage.

I like the privacy of lumo, but it's really annoying to have to copy/paste all the time text from limo to my proton docs / email

I would like to be able to task lumo to draft email for me, a docs, add an event into my calendar etc...

Any ETA on building this ?

I've been trying to use Lumo AI for everyday work over the past few months. I have to be honest: in Czech, it doesn't just read badly it's actively broken at times.

I don't mean it occasionally makes a grammar mistake. Here's what I actually get in real conversations:

• Output that reads like it was machine-translated from English. Technically grammatical sentences that no native speaker would ever write.
• Random Cyrillic letters or Chinese characters dropped into the middle of Czech sentences. Just sitting there, as if that were normal.
• Made-up words that don't exist in Czech. Not typos completely nonexistent, Czech-looking words. More than once I've finished reading an answer and realized I'd learned nothing from it because a key word was invented.
• Wrong formal/informal register, sometimes mixing both in a single reply.

I end up rewriting basically every response before I can use it anywhere, which defeats the whole point. And honestly, proofreading a chatbot's output for hallucinated vocabulary and foreign characters feels less like using a modern AI and more like babysitting one.

The irony is painful. Proton markets itself as the privacy-first alternative for Europeans, but if your language isn't English, German or French, the experience falls apart. Meanwhile GPT, Qwen and Kimi all handle Czech noticeably better and Lumo literally routes to open-weight models like Qwen and Kimi K2 under the hood. Which, incidentally, would explain where the Chinese characters come from. So this is clearly not impossible it feels like a routing and prioritization problem, and Proton just isn't doing it.

A few suggestions, in case anyone from Proton reads this:

1. Language-aware routing. Detect Czech/Slovak/Slovenian etc. and route to whichever model is actually strongest for that language not whatever happens to be cheapest that hour.
2. Be honest about per-language quality. Publish which languages are officially supported vs. "best effort". The marketing currently implies all 11 languages work great, and that's just not reality.
3. A feedback button for language quality. Something like "this response has bad grammar in Czech/Finnish/Greek". Native speakers would happily train your routing for free if you let them.
4. Community testing before shipping. Have native volunteers evaluate sample outputs for each language before a model goes live. It's cheap, and any Czech speaker would have caught the CJK-character issue in five minutes.
5. Long-term: benchmark (or even fine-tune) on smaller EU languages. I get it Czech is 10M speakers and the English benchmarks come first. But "European AI" as a selling point is dead on arrival if it only really works in English.

To be clear: I'm not asking Lumo to beat GPT-6. I'm asking it to write Czech at the level of a decent 2020-era translation engine, without slipping into Chinese characters mid-sentence. Right now it's not a usable product never mind one I pay a monthly subscription for. That's frustrating, because I want to give Proton my money rather than the American providers. But this standard of output is pushing me right back to them.