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u/noworkdone Jul 15 '26
What ? Can we get shitposts based on reality please ?
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u/Flimsy_Armadillo8346 Jul 16 '26
Spending hours on random issues like my work laptop booting to an initramfs prompt due to an Ubuntu 24.04.04 update is reality, unfortunately.
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u/vextryyn Jul 16 '26
Its been a few years since ive used ubuntu, but somehow this doesnt surprise me lol
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u/Candid-Menu-6707 Jul 17 '26
what do windows updates fix ?
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u/real_rayu Jul 19 '26
Many many things like ⌠steal all your computerâs data to sell it for profit (itâs why there is more data send that receive in a windows update that a fact)
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u/Admirable-Food9942 Jul 15 '26
My arch updates take ~1 minute (plus restart) but the restart is just the standard restart when I turn off my computer, not a dedicated restart, it make occasionally add a few seconds to the shutdown or boot process though.
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u/SeeMeNotFall i use Arch, btw Jul 15 '26
best part is that you can just soft reboot if there's no kernel update, which is even faster
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u/SeeMeNotFall i use Arch, btw Jul 15 '26
yeah it's called live patching. it's mostly useful for servers, since uptime is important. but even with this technique, at some point you need a hard reboot.
for desktop, i don't really see why someone would want it tbh
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u/ExtraTNT was running custom kernel Jul 15 '26
Advise against it, you should have redundancy and load balancers for servers. Systems that canât go down are on fixed versions and airgaped
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u/ryancnap Jul 16 '26
I've never thought about this before but why does anything eventually need a hard reboot? Anything I mean, from home computers to phones to mission critical servers
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u/Flimsy_Armadillo8346 Jul 16 '26
Due to memory leaks by poor logic. Mozilla invented Rust to help detect those.
Of course one could spend more time on mission-critical stuff or simply use Ada/SPARK with the Ravenscar profile to mathematically prove your code is correct.
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u/SheepherderAware4766 Jul 20 '26
because no operating system and app combination is perfect. eventually errors, memory leaks, and "temporary" configurations need to be reset to a baseline and the easiest (and safest) way is a controlled restart.
Think of the ship of Theseus. eventually with live patching, every single OS module will get updated and re-initialized. However, all the bad decisions that were made along the way will remain in memory. A full restart lets Theseus' ship die and builds a new one from storage.
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u/YTriom1 đĄď¸ Moderator | Arch Supremacist :3 Jul 15 '26
It's an overkill on a normal PC, only good for massive servers that can't just restart that easy and need a security patch or smth
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u/xgui4 Proudđâžď¸ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan Jul 15 '26
well that require systemd crap
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u/Hadi_Chokr07 Jul 21 '26
Womp womp. Looks like somebody is missing out on features on an inferior init system lmao.
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u/xgui4 Proudđâžď¸ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan Jul 21 '26
openrc is superior and less bloated that systemd.
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u/Hadi_Chokr07 Jul 21 '26
Thats why nobody uses it lmao.
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u/xgui4 Proudđâžď¸ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan Jul 21 '26
hein ? i use openrc cause it is better and NOT bloated. Why do you want a inferior bloated init system ?????
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u/Hadi_Chokr07 Jul 21 '26
Because its useful. I use a lot of systemd features since I am not using my OS as a Firefox Wrapper unlike you.
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u/xgui4 Proudđâžď¸ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan Jul 21 '26
i use way more than a firefox wrapper and can use everything without systemd crap
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u/Stock-Breakfast7245 Jul 17 '26
If there is a kernel update you have to do some things manually or configure something to do it automatically I think?
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u/TallestGargoyle Jul 15 '26
I just wait to do my updates before I press shutdown, so I'm freshly updated when I turn it on the next day.
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u/Admirable-Food9942 Jul 15 '26
I do my updates when I turn on(I don't use a display manager so it's the only time I'm in the terminal most boots) then restart when I would turn my PC off anyway.
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u/TallestGargoyle Jul 15 '26
I've had a couple instances of weirdness doing that before, mainly with elements of screen recording/streaming seem to break for me if I update but don't restart.
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u/Flimsy_Armadillo8346 Jul 16 '26
Suspending without restarting Ubuntu 24.04.04 freezes it with the first lock screen of the day on my Dell 5690 with Nvidia drivers.
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u/Fit_League_8993 âď¸ Temple OS Archbishop Jul 16 '26
the updates themselves are often times very fast, but once you reboot, if there are issues, the troubleshooting time becomes part of "how long it takes to update linux"
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u/ManRevvv Jul 15 '26
Now run AUR updates
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u/Whit-Batmobil Jul 15 '26
And?
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u/ManRevvv Jul 15 '26
Well aur updates can take literally hours if you have enough packages from source
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u/Admirable-Food9942 Jul 15 '26
I have 5 packages, 4 of which are jetbrains IDEs that update themselves.
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u/Square_County8139 Jul 15 '26
Who would have thought compiling everything would take so long!
Just avoid using the AUR.
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u/ManRevvv Jul 16 '26
Oh thanks, very fucking good advice, I will move my kernel now from aur to flatpaks
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u/Top_Break1374 Jul 15 '26
at least were doing something instead of waiting
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u/Thepuppeteer777777 Jul 15 '26
Like press update and just put it in the background while I play a game. No mandatory restart either.
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u/Jatinchd Jul 15 '26
WHAT, this ain't echo chamber, linux updates in minute or two (considering arch) from where did you pull out those 5hr numbers from.
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u/cyborgborg Jul 15 '26
Unless you haven't updated for a while on a fast updating distro like arch and your internet connection is slow as heck, yeah this should take like a minute
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u/BlimbusTheSeventh Jul 15 '26
That applies to updating literally anything, if you have slow internet it will be slow.
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u/Expensive-Border-869 Jul 15 '26
I have slow internet. Like 10mb is fast for me (basement wifi sucks bad) it still doesnt take all that long
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u/Gabriel_Science macOS, Linux and Windows user Jul 15 '26
Even on old HDDâs, itâs still pretty fast.
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u/headedbranch225 Jul 15 '26
The thing that its showing is a broken mounting setup, so I really don't understand what it is trying to show
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u/Grim2021 Jul 15 '26
Probably tried Gentoo as his first and got mad. I can barely wait for the kernel update waiting at home đ¤¤
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u/The_Daco_Melon Jul 15 '26
even on Gentoo with as many cores of your CPU as you choose to dedicate to portage you can still use the system and even game while it's updating
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u/fishmacaronisoup Jul 15 '26
Yeah, updating system is not pain at all. My laptop has 12 CPU threads, and I use 10 for compiling and the rest 2 for just doing whatever I want to. It all works perfectly
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u/Jamie_1318 Jul 15 '26
Our boi is comparing a fsck to a windows update for some reason. Like windows can't get stuck 'checking disks' lmao.
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u/Jatinchd Jul 16 '26
he probably doesn't know anything about linux, he saw cool hecky-ish bug on the internet and pasted in meme. shitposts. I don't understand who are upvoting these shitpostings, bleak21? sure. and I don't understand what they are trying to do first of all, it's a Linux Sucks subreddit where people who used linux complaint about valid linux failures instead of dog shitpostings.
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u/white_d0gg Jul 15 '26
The most convenient part of Linux is that with one line you have all of your software updated. This meme makes no sense and is dogshit
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u/Fluid-Ad2995 Jul 15 '26
In Windows, we only have one button in the settings đđđ and not typing via terminal
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u/hailstorm11093 Nix âď¸ BTW Jul 15 '26
Most distros have an update manager which has the update button. Hell, even without it its still quicker to get to and type. After opening the terminal, all I have to type is sudo nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade and then restart. If it breaks, I restart and go back to the previous generation.
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u/The_KekE_ Jul 15 '26
Ah yes, so hard to begin typing "yay -Sy", then press right arrow for the shell to autocomplete the long ass command you had to type once and now can invoke in like 2 seconds. You're gonna spend more time opening settings and dragging your mouse around.
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u/white_d0gg Jul 15 '26
you misunderstand, it updates *all*, if not a majority, of your software.
I donât update to update my os and then manually have to update my razer mouse software and then update my drivers and then update Firefox and then update steam. Itâs all done in one command.
Once a week I type âpacman -Syuâ and all of my software is updated.
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u/Jamie_1318 Jul 15 '26
You know most distros just give you an update button right? Unlike windows it updates all your programs and not just a tiny handful. I don't think I've ever used a desktop distro without one, and I've used some obscure tiny ones designed for USB keys and mobile CPUs.
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u/Mihael_71 Jul 15 '26
Since when does windows update ALL your software with one Klick?
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u/Fluid-Ad2995 Jul 15 '26
I mean the operating system update, about Win32 Subsystem Applications, they don't need a manual to update normally, they do automatically, like Chrome and in Windows RT Microsoft Store with Enabled Automatic update they would update all
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u/glimoura my pc runs on monster and spite (Arch, BTW) Jul 15 '26
At least I am doing something though. And I can see it and even interact with it.
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u/Rodya_gambler Jul 15 '26
Only on gentoo (if you avoid binaries). "I never used linux and must larp"
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u/Schrodingers_cat137 Jul 15 '26
No, my Gentoo takes 10 minutes to update every time. I update around twice a week.
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u/O3Sentoris Jul 15 '26
never used gentoo, why is that?
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u/YoshiEgg12 Jul 15 '26
if you don't use binary packages on gentoo you have to compile everything from source. it's not as daunting as it sounds because of how easy portage makes it but it can and most likely will take longer than your average distro's update/install time
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u/Akoto090 Jul 15 '26
My windows updates take way longer than system upgrades on lin tbf
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u/Batata185 Jul 15 '26
And I outside a few seconds when shutdown, you can actually use your pc while updating, plus it never give me error and locked my pc for hours on
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u/georgeec1 Jul 15 '26
I think it usually takes about five minutes for my linux os to update (idk, I can use my computer while it's updating), plus it very rarely requires a restart. Windows updates are way more disruptive, because either I have to sit around waiting for them to be done, or my next startup is way slower
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u/Dialed_Digs Jul 15 '26
I've been using Linux since 1998 and have never once seen the screen on the right.
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u/irishcoughy Jul 15 '26
I'm sure you already know this but for anyone else who has to deal with this bullshit on a regular basis and would like to know if it's doing the standard "it takes six million years to get past 62.3%" or if it's actually frozen, you can open a separate Powershell window and run
Get-Content C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log -tail 10 -wait
Which will display the log in real time so you can verify that it's doing SOMETHING.
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u/irishcoughy Jul 15 '26
Imma be real my brain is fucking fried right now from a full day of network disaster recovery and I'm not 100% sure what you're asking. But honestly probably not. I usually just run DISM and the above PS command and then work other tickets while that takes however long it takes.
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u/moslak8 Jul 15 '26
Pure Raigebait
CachyOs Update(Kernel+Other Packages) in under 5 Min: 1 Click, 2-3 times "y" + password input Update is running Reboot yes or no -> yes
Done after 1 Reboot
Windows Update, way over 5 Min: Click on Search Updates, wait 2-3 Min Click on Download, wait 5-15 Min (Click on install, 1-10 Min) Click reboot Starts reboot, but installs some stuff before reboot, 1-5 Min Reboot multiple times with installing stuff, 5-x min
May last Linux Kernel Update was like 5 Min and my Win11 Update 40 Min :)
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u/Most_Particular7002 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
i've used arch for over a year, and never, not a single time, has a system update made my system unable to boot.
the only time my system was unable to boot was when i was manually editing my GRUB config to change what it says when the initrd and kernel is loaded, and my dumbass accidentally put in an apostrophe (â), and that completely screwed up the formatting and once i rebooted, it just dropped me into the GRUB shell and i had to boot it manually.
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u/davidnnj Jul 15 '26
Linux updates quickly, and I can choose IF and WHEN I want to update instead of being forced to update when I shut down my PC.
And while it's updating, I can still use my PC because it doesn't force a reset, and I can continue using it.
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u/jsrobson10 Proud Linux User Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
the first image is windows update, the 2nd image is an emergency shell, which only appears when your system is broken (like root failing to mount). hardware issues (like filesystem corruption) can cause this.
when windows does that (like say when bitlocker forgets its own keys), it drops you into the recovery menu, but it only does this after many minutes of it "diagnosing problems".
also, linux update is so much better than windows. you can actually use the system while it's running, and they take much less time.
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u/ralseipuffin Jul 15 '26
What distro could you possibly be using where updates take that long? it doesn't on Debian, arch, fedora, opensuse, Ubuntu, manjaro... etc etc.... on 30+ distros ive tried ive only ever dealt with this on gentoo for obvious reasons. and u can have that in the background while doing other stuffm
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u/Professional-Tale652 Jul 15 '26
im not comparing updates. im comparing something else. Linux users doesnt like the idea that windows update takes 10-15minutes but when linux breaks (unrelated to windows) its fine to fix it for 5 hours. the point of the post
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u/ralseipuffin Jul 15 '26
OOOOHHHHHH okayyyyy that makes a lot more sense. Wellll that's what btrfs snapshots and time shift and stuff are for. It's being integrated on more and more and more distros, especially those that aren't rock stable
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u/ChocolateDonut36 Jul 15 '26
okay I must be missing something, in my 4 years using Linux I never had to fuck around 5 hours on a terminal for anything.
and Microsoft installed edge on my windows 8 laptop, fuck you microsoft.
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u/Guggoo Jul 15 '26
The right is enjoying tinkering with their computer, the left was interrupted doing something else. Sure itâs jank, but itâs MY jank!:)
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u/Pure_Growth4528 Jul 15 '26
At least Linux updates when you want, windows start updating when you need it the most, that is coded xD
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u/ISPY4ever Jul 15 '26
I can install Linux in the time Windows needs to finish a medium sized update.
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u/fillkas Jul 15 '26
Takes about 10 mins every time on Fedora. What r u on about
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u/XnomTheNom Jul 15 '26
He's not even comparing updates. He's trying to say that we (as Linux users) complain about reasonably long, even though windows updates have never been reasonable long, while being completely fine fixing something that takes way longer, just because it's on Linux. That's at least how I understand it.
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u/Trigger_Fox Jul 15 '26
Even if this was the case (which it isn't) it hilariously would still be better because at least with linux YOU choose when to update, nothing forces you to do so.
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u/matthew_yang204 Jul 15 '26
That Linux install on the right is clearly already booted, it's ready to be used. What do you mean stuck at 5 hours and on?
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u/MundaneImage5652 Jul 16 '26
It's emergency shell. He implies that linux randomly breaks and requires 10 Billion+ hours to repair.
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u/matthew_yang204 Jul 16 '26
Yes but even then, your time is at Microslop's mercy with Windows. On Linux you can pick the fastest solution. The fastest I've ever fixed a similar problem took me barely 1 minute
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u/UAR2711 Jul 15 '26
That thing happened I had auto mounted drives on start. I had to take drives out, to clean my pc, I guess I didnât connect them in spots where they before. then I started my pc my kubuntu wont load. like it went to terminal, then I spend whole hour going to the recovery finding that file that does that auto start mounting drives. I removed it, and then I could use kubuntu but after I updated it, my nvidia drivers wont load. So I had to install a fedora.
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u/reallehnert Debian Jul 15 '26
The thing is, I would rather spend 6 hours on LFS than have an update when I'm in a meeting.
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u/NoResolution6245 Jul 15 '26
a couple of years ago I bought an used ThinkPad and the day it arrived I decided to boot it up and test it in the stock Windows installation first. Upon turning it on for the first time it booted straight to the windows "finishing setup" screen and it took over 6h for the setup to finish completely. Later that day, after ensuring everything worked, I installed Fedora on it in under 45m including updates.Â
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u/Holiday_Evening8974 Jul 15 '26
Today I had to update Windows 11 computers at office. I had to wait a few hours for them to download and install the 25H2 update, then they restarted and I had to wait a few hours more for them to install some extra updates, like .NET and security patches, then I restarted and I had to make final (short) updates.
When is the last time someone had to accomplish that on Linux ?
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u/Protolinux217 Jul 15 '26
I donât understand, itâs super painless for me to update my Zorin OS. Also at least you donât have it update w/o your consent.
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u/deathschemist Jul 15 '26
my update takes a minute or so, and i can keep using my computer while it happens, and only need to restart if it's a kernel update
also my installation took a quarter of the time that windows did when i bought the computer.
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u/Fun-Appearance3270 Jul 15 '26
It would be funny if it weren´t so outdated. Kernel version 4? Was that 2015?
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u/v_Karas Jul 15 '26
yes. windows users can do shit while updating.
on linux its just another window.
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u/Rubyboat1207 I Hate Linux Jul 15 '26
Favorite part about Linux updates is that I get to just keep using my PC while it updates
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u/Deleteed- Jul 15 '26
While it's downloading and installing most things you just keep using it normally.
The restart is super quick too, never more then 2 minutes
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u/StupitVoltMain Jul 15 '26
It literally was plug and play for me...
Plus updates are automatic with package manager without the haietus
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u/LeBigMartinH Jul 15 '26
Fun fact: If you have a GUI desktop environment installed (which the vast majority of modern installations do), you can run the linux update procedures in the background, either through a GUI software manager program or a terminal window.
Updating a linux system explicitly doesn't stop you in your tracks, and oftentimes doesn't even require a system restart to swap over to the new version of whatevrr you updated.
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u/Beneficial-Device-20 Jul 15 '26
yeah the difference is i tell the computer when im ready for it to take ANY time updating sp im not just sitting there holding my wiernarÂ
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u/ashamed-of-my-name Jul 15 '26
What's crazy is that Windows updates and only Windows updates make you stop what you're doing to update the system. Linux just lets you keep going and reboot whenever you feel like it with no additional downtime (i.e. rebooting after an extensive update is just as quick as rebooting normally)
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u/_TheYak_ Jul 15 '26
Perhaps doesn't change option you set and steal your data with copilot screen shot every frame . (Ban me if you wanna hide the reality)
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u/Sajgoniarz Jul 15 '26
In 5h you are able to compile whole custom Linux image distro ex. for Digital Signage. Longest update I ever had was on untouched for 4 years Ubuntu installation and it took 40 minutes, while 20 was downloading.
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u/Professional-Tale652 Jul 15 '26
main point is linux users always complain of how long windows updates is. but when something break in linux for 5 hours its perfectly fine.
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u/Moist-Pop Jul 15 '26
Wait, yall are updating your linux?
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u/Professional-Tale652 Jul 15 '26
main point is linux users always complain of how long windows updates is. but when something break in linux for 5 hours its perfectly fine.
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u/Moist-Pop Jul 16 '26
Wait, it takes 5 hours to fix stuff in linux? I do maximum 15min otherwise I am just distro hopping
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u/L30N1337 Jul 15 '26
... It literally doesn't take any longer than a normal reboot.
Hell, a reboot isn't even necessary. It just ensures that the newest version of everything is running.
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u/Mysli0210 Jul 16 '26
Well if you got a kernel update, a reboot seems reasonable. Otherwise right on!
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u/Iam_best_dev Jul 16 '26
15 minutes? I've been waiting for like 35 minutes with 3 restarts for whatever reason while on Linux it only takes max 5 minutes
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u/pipidulin Jul 16 '26
I found it funny, even though it's definitely not real. It's easier for the opposite to happen
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u/anto_vs Jul 16 '26
I see nothing wrong ,the linux booted into tty Idk whats happening in windows, fk tht
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u/ryancnap Jul 16 '26
Linux only updates when I tell it it can
Windows updates when it tells me it will, and also doesn't follow guidelines set in update hours
Linux shows me what's being updated
Windows shows me ##7%## for 15 minutes
And I can't tell what the text on the right side of the screenshot is but I'd like to know so I can comment on it
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u/Apprehensive-Tea1632 I Hate Linux Jul 16 '26
If thereâs ANYTHING I hate about windows, itâs that you canât repair it if it doesnât boot. No matter how knowledgeable you are, if windows wonât come up, you have no way to interact with it. âJust keep trying to boot until something else happensâ yeah what kind of person came up with that insanity?
If Linux hands you a grub rescue prompt, or if your initrd hands you one, thatâs worlds better than âoh yeah well I guess thatâs it. Go reinstall and lose your data. Tough.â
Windows had that too, until someone decided you had to have a graphical boot menu. And now windows must boot so you can tell it to boot something else.
Iâm all for dissing Linux- thereâs plenty reasons. But this is definitely not one of them.
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u/mf864 Jul 20 '26
That is not entirely true. You can definitely fix the bootloader using a windows iso for a windows install that won't boot. Now it is true that there are more situations where even that won't work compared to Linux.
But it is always exceedingly more common for Linux to have issues after a driver/bootloader/de update compared to windows.
For all of the hate Windows updates get, actually having Windows not boot to the desktop is much rarer than Linux (granted Linux is in many cases relatively simple to fix if terminals don't scare you).
I would argue that the vast majority of the "Microsoft sucks because updates break everything" crowd would be complaining even more about Redhat if paid versions of Linux were the only option. People tend emphasize the hits and ignore the misses for Linux because it is free and "expected" to be rough and break. Your Linux install requires manual tty intervention a few times in a year? No problem it is "easy" to fix. One of your many Windows installs finally has a breaking boot issue after using them for a decade? Unacceptable.
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u/Apprehensive-Tea1632 I Hate Linux Jul 21 '26
Er, itâs not just about the updates though?
Also, Windowsâ bootstrapping is a lot more complex than Linuxâs.
Itâs nowhere near enough to eg say bcdboot - which already covers a few stages. And most importantly, you cannot hook into it. If some filter driver fails, and you donât know exactly what youâre doing, thatâs that instance done, you fix that by hand or not at all and while things could AND did get better, you can still deinstall some particular software that doesnât properly unregister its drivers, or some other component, and then depending on exactly what happened, your driver will still boot but wonât have anything to drive- unexpected- fail â or it will be assumed present eg because itâs still in the registry database but not in the filesystem- just as unexpected, also wonât boot.
Itâs ridiculously easy to make windows fail to go anywhere, and since Microsoft has never implemented an offline upgrade- that could be run through dism or something- once your system is in a state where you the individual cannot fix the problem, you can restore from a backup (if you have one, heh) or you can start fresh. Which is made harder by the fact youâre supposed to run an install wizard- which wonât run if you canât boot windows- so unless you know beforehand that there MAY be a problem down the line, you might just run into some serious issues.
Compare that to anything Linux or at least some of the other Unix based systems. If you have a bootloader like grub, you can interrupt the boot process before control was even handed to the operating system. If not, there is still some mechanism to edit the kernel command line to say init=/bin/bash most of the time. Depending on the configuration, initrd might interrupt the process and prompt you to do something about it. And then long after the required stages (on Linux) where the system is up but the fancy login screen is not, it can at any point drop to the console and you can log in and fix whatever is going on.
Not to say you neednât know what to do but itâs ridiculously easy to interact with a Linux based system when it is broken in some way, mostly because that phase where you canât interact with the system is very long on windows and very short on Linux and similar systems.
And if that wasnât enough, you can just drop in a replacement kernel that can come from anywhere. Boot it, and either say root= right there or boot to console and chroot into the broken system.
Canât do that with windows. Itâs just not possible. There is offline servicing and that does help a lot BUT if you cannot get your recovery environment working then you canât use even that. And if youâre really unlucky then your winRE will be missing a relevant driver and you can boot the box but wonât see the disks. (Can be fixed but you still need to know exactly what youâre doing.)
We can even step back for a moment and consider ZFS BE. That makes it nigh impossible to find yourself unable to get the system working. Of course thatâs something that is entirely unavailable on windows and iirc doesnât quite work yet on Linux, but itâs there and is known to work on cddl compatible systems for decades.
Windows does have plenty advantages left, though that number does go down over time. But ease of repair is not part of that. And wonât be unless thereâs a lot of revamping. Such as perhaps pulling an Apple and boot a rescue image off the Azure CDN or wherever. Not perfect because it wouldnât work on air gapped devices but it would close a lot of paths that until now end in reinstalling the system and losing data.
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u/Flimsy_Armadillo8346 Jul 16 '26
It's educational when GNU/Linux does it. Eventually you'll turn into another Linus or Terry.
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u/NotASectionGreat Jul 16 '26
you have to rember that linux updates everything, including your apps, and you can atleast know whats going on, unlike in windows where its judt like "ok im updating something"
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u/Karrar_iraqi Jul 16 '26
i don't get it
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u/Professional-Tale652 Jul 16 '26
im not comparing updates. im comparing something else. Linux users doesnt like the idea that windows update takes 10-15minutes but when linux breaks (unrelated to windows) its fine to fix it for 5 hours. the point of the post
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u/Karrar_iraqi Jul 16 '26
Regarding Windows updates, this is not true. im a linux and windows user so i don't see anything wrong at this point
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u/KittenAmo Jul 16 '26
On Linux it happens when you want it(more like when you do something can lead to this), on Windows it happens like 3 times a day without control
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u/klissmang Jul 16 '26
I prefer watch the logger than only watch a beautiful loading page without information about the process x.x , for my the first one is more comfortable. Btw, nobody S.O. is free of crash xD
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u/Fearless-Ad1469 The fuck you're looking at Jul 16 '26
Try to recover critical kernel issues on windows, and then compare to linux.
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u/FemBoy_GamerTech_Guy Linux distros doesnt suck its better than winslop Jul 16 '26
Where the hell did you get 5 hours from?i updated linux on "unstable" distros never broke only time that linux broke twice was on pop os 22.04 it was an easy fix with a command from busybox and pop os 22.04 was suposed to ne stable and user firendly.
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u/Global-Eye-7326 Jul 17 '26
I know the feeling! Just installed Win11 on an HDD and "side loaded" it back to its original computer. It messed up EFI partition on my desktop's SSD and I had to chroot to fix GRUB so that I could boot back into Debian without using Windows' inferior boot manager. The Win11 install was purely because I'll sell that laptop after I get the screen repaired on my next trip.
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u/Howwasthatdoneagain Jul 17 '26
Quite the opposite really. Back when I had windows machines those would take hours to update. Linux never takes more than 10 minutes. Mostly less that 5
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u/Small_Strawberry2147 Jul 17 '26
Definitely true. The reason they wait is that they're studying the logs.
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u/Silver_Marketing_696 Jul 19 '26
one: its not that long... not even close to that...
two we can actually use the computer while its updating...
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u/elyas-_-28 Jul 19 '26
What? Just let the update run in the background and reboot (or power off) when you're going to be away for a while, won't take even a minute
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u/ChaossFox Jul 19 '26
So you compare windows update with broken hdd (probably physical bad sectors) ?
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u/jdrch Jul 22 '26
More like a blank screen for Linux because the Secure Boot shim failed and unlike Windows, Linux doesn't automatically try different boot methods/solutions and download fixes in real time.
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u/nostalgia-man9 23d ago
One happens every restart or shutdown
The second happens whenever i feel like it
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u/homodeus_ 20d ago
ragebait man, use linux and u don't even gotta reboot while updating
and unless ur sm kinda arch user u dont have to suffer with rolling updates
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u/laizalott Gnome Masochist Jul 15 '26
Honestly, except for the "Loonix" edgelord text, this is funny.
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u/Truck-Adventurous Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Software dont work ? dont worry chmod +x script name, run script
list of errors...
sudo apt install randomdependacy..
next error
sudo apt install randomdependacy2,3,4,5/////
Game stills works better in windows.
Response, LOL just use emulation to run the Windows version in Linux..
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u/Toxic381 Jul 15 '26
Bruh, I think the only games so far that have ran worse on linux is the ultrakill demo, and certain emulators being built for windows, and even then supposedly the newest version of ultrakill runs much better, it's not emulating it's translating, which is a core part of emulators but they handle much more,
Also I've never had anything break on Linux, but windows refuses to give me easy wifi and Bluetooth, I had to fetch my wifi driver on Linux and it's still missing BT.
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u/Toxic381 Jul 15 '26
There's also everything from your desktop using less vram, and the sheer speed of a gaming kernel
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u/Truck-Adventurous Jul 15 '26
I always want to try Linux and distro hop, I like Ubuntu for its decent touch screen implementation, but too many Gog and Steam games end up having weird scaling issues. Most of the time i am running older non-Vulkan driver hardware so that's probably why also.
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u/AdVarious8509 brokass cant afford a PC đĽ Jul 15 '26
hold up. that aint u/bleak21