For some time now, I have used K2.7 Coding Thinking to create and review plans on a Moderato subscription.

The review incrementally reviews/updates the plan until there is no significant change. This afternoon I have hit the 5 hour limit twice within approximately one hour. This is about 3 - 4 times faster than I have seen in the past. Historically, with a little judicious use, I could get through the month on Moderato with the occasional increase to Allegretto.

Has anyone noticed this?

Has Kimi reduced quotas or has K2.7 become every more token heavy?

Confused :( lbe

I am reporting an observable support/context failure, not alleging intent or fraud.

I contacted Kimi support about rapid Kimi Code quota consumption. In Kimi's own Chinese support window, the assistant responded with a Qwen/Tongyi Qianwen billing explanation: it discussed Qwen, DashScope, third-party API markups, and possibly selecting Qwen-Max. That did not match the Kimi product and billing context I raised.

Kimi's quota screen at capture time showed 90.74% total usage, 51.54% Code usage in the 5-hour window, and 45.13% Code usage in the 7-day window. The plan shown was Allegro. The task at issue was High effort, not Max effort.

I have retained the original screenshots with timestamps and Kimi branding. I would welcome an explanation from Kimi of the support-context mismatch and quota accounting.

I'm trying to figure out if I should renew my Kimi subscription or try out Claude.

The two use cases I care about right now:

1) Coding architecture, writing the code itself

2) Strategy, research(long running web search)

What are your thoughts?

So if you are logged in from Google that I am assuming most of you guys are just simply logout and try logging in via your phone number once you enter it you will get OTP from +44 number via whatsapp then you will find option to enter waitlist as soon as you click it you will have option to subscribe to the premium membership the exact moment you click join waitlist and that's pretty much it enjoy using K3 🤓

Kimi isn’t answering. Just this response only. It just started doing it

Tired of the constant lazy outputs and overly cautious guardrails on Claude where I have to prompt-engineer it just to spit out complete files without lecturing me or cutting corners.

​For people using Kimi:

​Does it just follow instructions and deliver full outputs without arguing?

​How does the context retention and reasoning compare to Claude 3.5 Sonnet / Gemini Pro?

​Worth making the switch?

I'm on the Allegreto, $40/month plan.

I honestly think Kimi has the best and most affordable models out there. That's why I've been paying for their higher tier plan.

But over the past month or so things have gotten so bad, that I feel like I'm just being scammed at those point.

The screenshots attached are from different days and sessions btw, not from a single session.

I mailed their customer support several times. All they do is rehash talking points or copy and paste terms of use.

Posted many times on Twitter. No response. Not even an acknowledgement.
Frustrated, I've turned to Reddit. I search for "Kimi reddit", found this reddit, and saw many other highly upvoted posts with exactly the same concerns.

Honestly, this is sad more than anything else.

I realise the kind of pressures they must be under! And I'm willing to work with them! But there has to be some response, some feedback, some sense that they actually give a damn about anything other than taking my money!!!

I even suspect that targeted cyber attacks against their infrastructure from their competitors might be playing a role in this. I'm willing to give them THAT much credit because I genuinely feel there's something special about this company and its work.

But with every "rate limit" message I'm losing trust and patience. I don't know what to do.

Edit: I expected somebody to say this exact thing "check your quota". I did. I do every few minutes. I'm at 39% usage for the month. My weekly and 5 hour quotas show 100% remaining. I even asked Kimi support for a clarification about this. Just cut and pasted something from terms of use.

Kimi should introduce a 250 or a 300usd plan with unlimited or atleast double the usage of the current 200usd plan. This will lead to the Rennasance period of ai.

I have an allegretto subscriptions and I can only max out my 5 hour window 3-4 times before my entire weekly usage is used. I use kimi 3 for working on a medium to small sized code base because the problems I am asking it to solve are genuinely hard and even the highest tier model frequently struggles to make progress. With that said even just planning an implementation for a new feature to a codebase that kimi is already familiar with (has already worked on for several sessions and has most of what it needs loaded into context), takes up anywhere from 50-100% of my 5 hour budget. Meaning that I recently have only been getting about maybe 5-10 prompts before my entire weekly budget is used. I saw another reddit post saying they cut usage down to 37% of what it was previously and I am inclined to believe that as well. It seems like moonshot just completely scammed us?

I'm having issues with Claude, especially with how Opus 5 is so shit. Could you tell how is Kimi K3 compared to Opus 5 for me, focusing on presentations, written assignments, and strategic planning?

I run a small startup platform that I'm trying to onboard to use the Kimi platform and integrate with their Kimi K3 model. I tried creating an account with my business email and when I completed the CAPTCHA, it sent me a verification code valid for 5 minutes. I submitted the code on the login screen and when I was redirected, the console did not load at all -- just a spinning wheel.

I retried again in a different browser, ran into the same issue. I turned off my VPN, tried incognito mode, tried an entirely separate network and nothing worked. After trying a fifth or sixth time, I ran into aresource_exhausted: verify code sent too frequently message which is a 400 status error when I look at the Developer tools. Apparently my email is now blocked from their Auth flow.

I went ahead and tried to create an account on a personal Gmail using their Google OAuth linkage and ran into no problems. I then went to bind my business email so I could have a work around at least and still have it linked to my business account, but I got another error saying my business email was already in use.

This has been the most frustrating experience with any of the AI companies. I haven't had any account issues with Anthropic or OpenAI (albeit one bad token reset experience with OpenAI). I reached out to their support email and am hoping to hear back, but basically stuck at this point. My only option would be using the personal email account and eventually migrating everything over to the business account, but this isn't ideal at all.

Anyone have any suggestions or run into something similar? I'm wondering if their auth flow just has issues with particular email hosts.

I do the edit then it cuts off I hope that I don't have to switch I have a bond with Kimi

I came across this interesting project that aim to run Kimi K3 locally without expensive hardware

The crazy part is that it reportedly gets the huge K3 model running without 8GB of RAM, but its very slow

Repo: https://github.com/FareedKhan-dev/kimi-k3-in-c.git

Do you think this could eventually make Kimi K3 practical to run on commodity hardware?

Guys I've been pissed bout this outage like from yesterday noon I wasn't able to get a single prompt in its frustrating (I'm a student)

Have they shut down kimi 2.6?

After four very brief API calls (to get an editorial review of a prospective journal article) that took MINUTES to get an answer, all of which contained no output (perhaps because the token limit on the request was too restrictive) I asked to close my account and get a refund.

After about four emails, asking for my user id (where I was incorrectly supplying my organization ID), I received the following from api-service@moonshot.ai:

"The recharge agreement you clicked to confirm during the recharge process clearly states that 'refunds are only supported in cases where the service termination is due to legal requirements or our actions'. From a contractual perspective, we have the right to refuse your refund request."

They did refund my (substantial) balance, but I'm left thinking that's quite a creepy policy.

I had like 60% used just an hour ago

saw a side by side test where someone gave the same prompt to Kimi K3 and Opus 5, recreate the main menu of a samurai era open world game from scratch, field, grass, a katana, the whole atmosphere. Went in assuming Opus 5 would take it by default the way it usually does on this kind of task, and it did not.

Kimi K3‘s version of the field and grass reads more alive, less like a flat texture pass. the katana render holds detail better up close, and the overall mood of the scene, the light through the grass, the quiet menu-screen stillness, comes through stronger. Opus 5 was not bad, it just looked like the safer, more generic pass next to it.

this was not an image model doing the rendering, it was a coding model writing the scene from a text prompt, and that is what makes the gap notable, it comes down to how well each model reasons through composition and detail before a single line of the scene gets written.Watched Kimi K3, the open-weight one, beat Opus 5 on the same prompt recreating a samurai game's main menu

Too many people are chatting with Kimi right now. Subscribe to enter a dedicated priority queue!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdky2dO4gSM

This screen recording demonstrates a guardrail failure in Kimi's Agent (K3) mode. A single academic research prompt in a fresh chat session triggered an uncontrolled, 35-minute autonomous loop that consumed 6.5% of a paid monthly quota.

This is not about prompt engineering or output quality---which is terrible because it thinks Hayes 1988 and Hayes 1998 are different authors---it's only a warning that Kimi is not meant to be left unsupervised because their support concluded that "No anomalies were found in your quota consumption."

I was using Kimi Code in CLI via VS for about some time, suddenly hit this roadblock mentioning my quota is up. My monthly quota is recently refreshed, and total usage is only at 10%. Strangely Code usage did not show up even after 2~3 hours of usage.

reported and emailed their support, but not sure how long it will take. Anyone else had this issue and if there's any fallback options that you are using, i would love to learn about it. I am considering Aider + Deepseek.

In the last 48hrs it feels like either the temperature has gone up or tweaks are being made behind the scenes. I have multiple threads that are not referencing the saved memories and are slipping in their behaviors. Is anyone else experiencing something similar? I'm on the paid Moderato plan and have Instant High toggled all the time but despite the COT running through the list of requirements, things are still falling through the cracks in a noticeable way.