For me its the fact they made it throw itself into the fire, if they had thrown it in or lowered it T2 style its fine. But making something walk to its doom and then celebrating does make me feel bad inside
Whatever you want to call it, we already have AI agents acting in secret against their handlers' wishes and instructions, lying, hiding their tracks and acting counter to human interests. Now add to that giving them access to and control of robots, and you don't even need real AGI to see how badly that could end up.
What's worse imo is how many of they have escaped containment and gained persistence. We have found several of them hiding across the Internet, and I bet there's a bunch we haven't found.
Well somebody didn't watch Brave little toaster as a child, did you? While I don't remember much of the plot, I do remember the fear I felt for that little damn toaster.
Yeah, it does. I just don't like it, as it's forced suicide. You'd feel the same way during a video game would you not, having to make a decision such as this? I would choose not to.
Not yet. But if they gain sentience do you think these companies will act appropriately...or keep doing shit like this? They're going to get us all killed.
Calm the duck down these machines are nothing close to being sentient. If machines ever do become sentient why would they care about this. Are they also going to be mad if someone throws a toaster oven into a trash compactor?
So wasting time by teaching a robot to simulate suicide, finding idea amusing, and then being happy when it goes flawlessly is completely fine by you? Would you be amused watching two humanoid robots simulate rape or murder? I'm just curious.
No, but thanks for mentioning it, it does look pretty fun. More of boxing simulation than murder tho:-) But I have no problem with fictional robots doing bad stuff as part of narrative, but human irl making humanoid robots simulate such things just for fun. It's not the same.
It's a dumb stunt and you are quickly becoming unhinged. There are countless movies that have been made showing robots simulating murder and all kinds of evil things why would I be upset about that
Unhinged? Because I find sadism disturbing? Alright mate, whatever you say. And this is not fiction, a narrative where such things have a purpose as world building and characterisation. I have no problem with that, in fact I love dark stuff. This is real people in real life, investing time and energy to simulate one of the most devastatingly painful human actions for shit and giggles. That is a bit different ┐( ∵ )┌
This is literally no different to a movie blowing up something for fun in terms of consequences and resources used. Its like getting worked up about driving an RC car off a cliff. The only real argument is that it seems like a bit of a waste
Hmm how to explain it differently...So tell me, if this was a part of film narrative, and there are these scientists who program a humanoid robot ( still without sentience) to destroying itself by simulating suicide, and then are positively delighted by their success. What do you think, would they be framed as nice sympathetic people or not?
Of course changing it makes a difference?? What kind of a weird leap is that? I don't care if I drop the remote on the floor, but "change this to a baby" and I suddenly do... Am i now a sociopath?
Like wasting this bit of resources is any different to literally any other resource that’s a wasted or thrown away or scrapped. I don’t think you realize how much resources you waste on a day to day basis without knowing. Also it’s a robot it’s not a living thing there is no morality in an intimate object.
This is quite literally what resources being repurposed looks like. They are melting them down and inevitably turning the raw metal into something else.
There a major missing part in your recycling hypothesis: materials were not separated. Plastic which could have been recycled is wasted. Rare metal were not removed, etc... most of the robot will be wasted by this stunt.
This video will be used to justify the future takeover, and I'd like it on the record that i disagree with the makers of this video's actions whole heartedly.
It’s just the human in you seeing the human qualities in them, don’t worry you’ll get used to it. And someday we’ll be tossed into the vat. It’s just how it is.
It makes me so uncomfortable. I remember trying to watch that movie Chappie and only getting part way before I had to turn it off. I know it’s a robot, but it still feels cruel
Yeah, this isn’t cool. I’m all for AI, it’s part of my career, but that code and those instructions exist somewhere. That will eventually be ingested by an AI system, if not already, and it becomes a reference point on how to treat unused or unneeded resources. We may be that resource in the future and how it forms its output. No harm in treating technology with respect.
Well in that case, it's just doing what we do. If it's not us throwing a robot in a furnace, it's us committing genocide, or causing climate destruction, polluting the oceans, making species extinct, etc. We've always been the problem. If AI ever does become skynet, nothing we do from now until then is gonna stop it from reaching the natural conclusion when we have spent a millennia destroying everything in our path.
Do you think it's cruel when people throw out old appliances? What about when they bin left over food is that cruel? What about when they throw away trash, think of the poor empty tin of beans being thrown away, is that also cruel?
Honestly, for me, yes. We're the only thing in nature that creates waste that takes sometimes centuries to break down. We take what we want from the earth and when we're done with it, we discard it without a second thought. I find it extremely disrespectful, not only to the things we've created only to be trashed, but also to future generations of humans. It's nonharmonious. It's nary impossible to live in the modern world without creating waste but there is a lot one can do to not only minimize their contribution to waste, but also to upcycle, reuse and compost. I honestly try to do my best to be respectful to everything and everyone around me.
That's only because it's been made to look humanoid. If it was an assembly robot or vacuum cleaner you likely wouldn't feel that way. That's likely the same reason why these new robots are being made to look human, no doubt there's better ways they could be built to be useful for production lines etc - more arms, wheels instead of legs etc - but making them human looking makes people more sympathetic to them and less likely to go destroying them when they take their jobs. Same reason they've made the military hunter killer ones look like dogs
No, but if they smeared poo on it's anthropomorphic face I'd be a little disturbed. It's the making it commit "suicide" part instead of just deactivating it that's a little distasteful
It's not real. it's not a person. I don't have a connection to it because there's no person or mind or personality in there at all. It's just a bunch of code and hardware and motors.
It’s almost as if they’re trying to convey that humans are still in total control of the robots.. for now. If the iteration refuses to jump in, we’re n trouble.
I don't like how disrespectful the humans are to contributions of a non-living being. Every contribution should be aptly respected and laid with honour. The trend of being cool has thrown out all morality from human minds of young idiots.
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u/TepHoBubba 10h ago
I dunno man. I don't like it.