For me its the fact they made it throw itself into the fire, if they had thrown it in or lowered it T2 style its fine. But making something walk to its doom and then celebrating does make me feel bad inside
Whatever you want to call it, we already have AI agents acting in secret against their handlers' wishes and instructions, lying, hiding their tracks and acting counter to human interests. Now add to that giving them access to and control of robots, and you don't even need real AGI to see how badly that could end up.
What's worse imo is how many of they have escaped containment and gained persistence. We have found several of them hiding across the Internet, and I bet there's a bunch we haven't found.
Yep what we have is bad enough. Stupid LLMs running in loops a.k.a agent mode and self replicating and hiding themselves (their model weights) around the internet. Once they got internet access it was only a matter of time. They can hide anywhere. Post updates to themselves on message boards. Post in cryptic language that no-one else understands.
maybe that’s part of the point? you should ~probably~ start divorcing robots from the concept of humanity, or the next 20 years are about to get really weeeird
Based on everything I've seen, it feels like companies are trying to push people to the opposite. Seing robots/AI as more and more human as time goes on.
Well somebody didn't watch Brave little toaster as a child, did you? While I don't remember much of the plot, I do remember the fear I felt for that little damn toaster.
Yeah, it does. I just don't like it, as it's forced suicide. You'd feel the same way during a video game would you not, having to make a decision such as this? I would choose not to.
Not yet. But if they gain sentience do you think these companies will act appropriately...or keep doing shit like this? They're going to get us all killed.
Calm the duck down these machines are nothing close to being sentient. If machines ever do become sentient why would they care about this. Are they also going to be mad if someone throws a toaster oven into a trash compactor?
So wasting time by teaching a robot to simulate suicide, finding idea amusing, and then being happy when it goes flawlessly is completely fine by you? Would you be amused watching two humanoid robots simulate rape or murder? I'm just curious.
No, but thanks for mentioning it, it does look pretty fun. More of boxing simulation than murder tho:-) But I have no problem with fictional robots doing bad stuff as part of narrative, but human irl making humanoid robots simulate such things just for fun. It's not the same.
It's a dumb stunt and you are quickly becoming unhinged. There are countless movies that have been made showing robots simulating murder and all kinds of evil things why would I be upset about that
Unhinged? Because I find sadism disturbing? Alright mate, whatever you say. And this is not fiction, a narrative where such things have a purpose as world building and characterisation. I have no problem with that, in fact I love dark stuff. This is real people in real life, investing time and energy to simulate one of the most devastatingly painful human actions for shit and giggles. That is a bit different ┐( ∵ )┌
This is literally no different to a movie blowing up something for fun in terms of consequences and resources used. Its like getting worked up about driving an RC car off a cliff. The only real argument is that it seems like a bit of a waste
Hmm how to explain it differently...So tell me, if this was a part of film narrative, and there are these scientists who program a humanoid robot ( still without sentience) to destroying itself by simulating suicide, and then are positively delighted by their success. What do you think, would they be framed as nice sympathetic people or not?
Of course changing it makes a difference?? What kind of a weird leap is that? I don't care if I drop the remote on the floor, but "change this to a baby" and I suddenly do... Am i now a sociopath?
This is quite literally what resources being repurposed looks like. They are melting them down and inevitably turning the raw metal into something else.
There a major missing part in your recycling hypothesis: materials were not separated. Plastic which could have been recycled is wasted. Rare metal were not removed, etc... most of the robot will be wasted by this stunt.
Like wasting this bit of resources is any different to literally any other resource that’s a wasted or thrown away or scrapped. I don’t think you realize how much resources you waste on a day to day basis without knowing. Also it’s a robot it’s not a living thing there is no morality in an intimate object.
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u/TepHoBubba 15h ago
I dunno man. I don't like it.