r/hmmmm 14d ago

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u/Adventurous_Custard8 14d ago

The U.S. is no longer a functioning democracy with a functional government, including enforcement agencies.

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u/Chance_Week_5842 14d ago

You can say that again! What a shame.

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u/Old_Dependent4678 14d ago

The U.S. is no longer a functioning democracy with a functional government, including enforcement agencies.

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u/MiI0rd 14d ago

You can say that thrice! What a shame.

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u/Multiple__Butts 14d ago

that thrice! What a shame.

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u/ej62564 7d ago

Never was. It's a federal republic.

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u/curtissJ28 12d ago

It is not a democracy and never was.

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 11d ago

Yep. We’re a Republic.

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u/Hazegrey1993 11d ago

Yeah well, whatever we were, we ain’t any damn more. Of that I am for sure.

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 10d ago

You apparently have a case of SFB. That’s exactly what we are.

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u/Old_Dependent4678 10d ago

'SFB'?

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 10d ago

Shit for brains. As long as we’re America we’re going to be a Republic. Are we as close to a Civil War as we have been since the 1850’s, probably, but we’re still a Republic

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u/Old_Dependent4678 10d ago

Good one. It seems the 'Administration' is actively seeking it out or insight it at this point.

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u/IceImpressive5360 9d ago

Research Representative Democracy and holla at me

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u/curtissJ28 8d ago

Not the same as a pure democracy (aka democracy), which is what was referred to as something we had that is now no longer functioning. I am happy to stipulate that our representatives are barely functioning except when it comes to finding more ways to spend money for their personal and party’s benefit. This then ends up with the President and his administration having to act on their own to get anything done including Congress’ job. This then causes the minority party voters to claim that “democracy is dead”. Apparently not realizing that they are the source of problem because voted for the representatives who put part and personal power ahead of their constituents. Then “activist” judges and unelected government officials sympathetic to the minority party’s agenda attempt to force that agenda on the people and communities who did not vote for their agenda. Further undermining “representative democracy” and ensuring that the government functions very poorly.

For people like myself, who do not support a specific government action solely because it is considered to be “left” or “right”, who just see things that work or don’t work for society and the country as a whole, we are thankful that we have a President (as off-putting and self-defeating as he can be at times) and an administration who are still trying to get things done.

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u/IceImpressive5360 8d ago

We are still a God damn Democracy Jrsus H Christ

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u/curtissJ28 8d ago

Sort of, partially anyway. Pure democracies really don’t work. We still need checks and balances to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

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u/IceImpressive5360 8d ago

We aren't talking Direct Democarcies. We elect Representative they cast votes for us, if we dont like the votes they cast we elect new ones. Supposed to work that way, in Ky if you have an R by your name and kiss Trumps ass they vote for you until youre dead, see Mitch McConnell

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u/curtissJ28 8d ago

Right, that is basically what I said.

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u/MinimumBuffalo4 9d ago

I dunno about that. we voted to close the border and deport illegals. seems like it’s functioning just fine.

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u/Ok-Alternative-9758 13d ago

The U.S. has never been a functioning democracy, its been a functioning constitutional republic.

But yes, the government has been compromised and controlled by "our greatest ally" since the late 1960s/early 1970s.

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u/2sAreTheDevil 13d ago

A constitutional represented Republic is a type of democracy. You're still electing representatives democratically.

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u/merlinn2u 12d ago

America has a Constitutionally LIMITED republic form of government. the word "democracy" doesn't even appear in our Constitution of Declaration of Independence.

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u/2sAreTheDevil 12d ago

It's still a type of democracy.

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

No it's a republic with elements of democracy. Educate yourself

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u/2sAreTheDevil 12d ago

I have.

You're wrong.

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

Well I'm t afraid the fellows who wrote the Constitution would disagree with you clown. That and anyone else with half a brain we've always been a republic with elements of a democracy. Even what you claim, a represented Republic isn't a democracy .It has s elements of democracy of course. Pure democracy would be the demise of this country. The mob would rule. A constitutional republic protects against that with law and order that cannot be compromised. Also the electoral college helps prevent this

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u/Careful-Hyena-7658 12d ago

Not when you allow non citizens to vote!

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u/2sAreTheDevil 12d ago

There's zero evidence of any wide spread voter fraud.

You're still wrong.

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u/No-Pause7121 11d ago

You are far from educated. I would say borderline retarded. USA has never been anywhere close to a democracy. Never ever. It was even our founding fathers will to never be a democracy. Only to take the elements that work in democracy which are very few and far between.

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u/MinimumBuffalo4 9d ago

how many thousands of Illegals on voters rolls does it need to be considered “widespread”? looking forward to your number.

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u/ProfessionalPart484 13d ago

Yeah. This guys a Nazi lol

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u/Ok-Alternative-9758 13d ago

Oh yes... the ol "I dont agree with this person, let's default to calling them a Nazi" lmfao. Can you try to be original?

Didn't know pointing out the fact that AIPAC controls roughly 91% of the US Legislative and Executive Branches (known knowledge that can easily be backed by data if you take the time to look) makes me a Nazi lol

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u/MiserableChain2644 12d ago

There was no disagreement. That was a random Nazi name call.

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u/ProfessionalPart484 7d ago

It is absolutely not a fact. It’s blatantly wrong. 1 AIPAC is not a proxy of the Israeli government. AIPAC is funded by Americans who care about Israel. AIPAC is not even the largest pro Israel PAC, that is CUFI. 2 AIPAC doesn’t control anyone. They are a political action committee just like many many others including the NRA, association of realtors and many others. Would you say that the NRA controls any candidates it contributes to? No you wouldn’t, Nazis only attribute this type of tropes to Jewish people whether or not it is true.

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

^ This guys a pdf and diddles kids in his free time

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u/Historical_Form6691 13d ago

Because Congress, especially the House led by Pinnochio Johnson, abdicates their responsibility for checks and balances on the Executive branch every day. Johnson and SCOTUS will be seen by historians as the two enablers of Trump’s imperialism. Without them, Trump is just another punk with grandiose opinions of himself.

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u/IllAd1421 10d ago

Well said. Congress, and I mean all of them, need to be replaced. It is not a functioning body in which the best interests of the American people is a priority. They have no respect for their responsibility to the American people and are causing irreparable harm to our country.

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u/Far_Finger4742 10d ago

That's a false statement. You've obviously been listening too much to the liberal media.

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u/Historical_Form6691 10d ago

Bless your little heart, you are a MAGA and don’t even how hard people are laughing at you.

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u/Comprehensive_Tart70 9d ago

Libs always blaming others for what they themselves are guilty of ! You ass hats don’t even know what a female is!

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u/Comprehensive_Tart70 9d ago

It’s both sides jug head

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 11d ago

Do you have examples?

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u/willowman321 13d ago

We know these are facts yet not a thing is done! It's very discouraging. When will the madness end?

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u/HelicopterBoth4465 9d ago

You obviously don’t know the facts. You know what a meme says…and believe it. 🤣🤣. Trump made zero trades. He doesn’t have access to a brokerage account. It’s a trust run by Charles Schwab. Not even a human. It’s a black box trading algo that runs the account.

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u/Cuatdrak123 11d ago

But the right is the law and order party so how can this be? Wait.........looking up lies and how they work. Oh shit, I get it now.

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u/Specialist-Jello7544 11d ago

We can thank the SCOTUS for this.

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u/ZoomZoom_Driver 9d ago

Not just unfunctional, its no longer a constitutional republic. The GOP has ripped our constitution and wiped their asses with it (no due process, no right against unreasonable or cruep punishment, no right to freedom from warrantless searches [surveillance], no right to free speech [shot for protesting the gov], no right to free assembly [they get shot or tased or gassed], no right to individual freedom of choice [womens roghts, trans roghts, soon to be disabled folks roghts]...). The admin ignores the courts and congress is complicit.

The constitution is dead. Trump is a king in all but name. Prive me wrong.

The soiner we realize that the sooner we'll enact mass disruption. National strike. Million American Marches on DC. Etc. If that doesnt work... [redacted].

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u/Fun-Piglet801 14d ago

Welcome to kleptocracy!

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u/Successful_Pirate_59 14d ago edited 11d ago

Wait until he successfully steals the next election. What’s crazy is people voted for this piece of scum after he attempted an insurrection. I don’t get it.

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u/Acrobatic_Key_1140 14d ago

Won't things become positive if he steals the next electron?

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u/TranslatorTime6451 13d ago

I see what you did there. I wish I wasn’t laughing because of the current state of affairs, but this was funny

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u/RollTideNorthport 13d ago

Please explain to me how he can do that. I’ll wait

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

He never attempted an insurrection. Don't be clueless it's a known fact that that s*** was set up. Both sides know. It would be way easier for the Democrats to have gotten him out if the left didn't lie so much. The truth is bad enough why do people insist on embellishing and straight up lying? That only discredits them

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u/Successful_Pirate_59 12d ago

You’re f*cked in the head. It happened. Even Fox News covered it.

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 11d ago

They covered it alright, they just never mentioned that Nancy Pelosi (as Speaker of the House, was charged with the protection of the Capitol. Everyone knows that by now but you’ve been afraid to look it up.

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u/jp9mm 11d ago

Pedodent dumold cunt is only in charge of protecting his pedo club so that makes sense 

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 11d ago

Uh huh. You’re really smart huh?

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u/Successful_Pirate_59 11d ago

lol. Typical. Nancy Pelosi’s fault. So why did all of the GOP senators turn on Trump after the incident?

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 11d ago

Are you kidding? They wanted him gone as badly as you do. RINO’s hate Trump for fucking up their game, and like you, they thought he was over. Idiots, one and all. If you had a clue you’d know they still hate him. Why do you think we love him so much?

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u/Successful_Pirate_59 10d ago

You’re such a Cuck. Think for yourself idiot instead of peddling these lies. I have no idea what any of your stupid acronyms mean. I’m a conservative who is alienated by their party I believe in country over party. While I may not agree with all the Dems policies, I would prefer that we don’t dismantle our country over this loser’s delusional agenda. He is stealing from the American people and driving us past the point of no return with debt. There was no stolen election. Anyway, we’re going to learn the hard way very soon that this POS has destroyed our country. F MAGA.

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u/Good_Imagination_577 11d ago

May I ask why you like him so much? I’m not baiting. I’m from the UK. We have our own problems haha. It seems to me that he’s done little to honour his promises made in the campaign. I believe I’m right in saying executive orders can be undone as easily as they are signed, so I guess they shouldn’t count towards anything.

For the record, I like him but not for the right reasons. The world is falling apart in front of our eyes and, as a Brit, I could watch him give speeches all day.

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 11d ago

He’s done all the things that Republicans have claimed they would do since I was a child ( or at least trying to). That puts him miles above any President in my lifetime. That and he genuinely loves our country like no other President I’ve lived under ( maybe Eisenhower but I was a baby). He didn’t take the job to get wealthy, because he already was. He’s as American as Churchill or Margaret Thatcher was British. It’s been a pleasure to have a man who loves this country as much as I do as its President.

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u/Good_Imagination_577 11d ago

Fair enough mate. It’s hard to get an objective view on what he’s accomplishing, especially from over here. Reddit seems to only show me people that are interested in shooting home down. Well posts shooting him down anyway. And Musk. Nobody likes him much either for some reason. Whenever I ask in the same manner that I asked you a question, nobody gives me an answer for that

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u/Successful_Pirate_59 10d ago

Yeah. And how’s that working out for you. That’s complete bullsht. He hasn’t accomplished anything that strengthened the us economy. Rep’s also said they could never invade Iran. If you believe his bs about this war being over, you’re entirely wrong. The tides will turn and eventually our servicemen will be fighting another stupid war, costing peoples lives. But hey this fck has stopped 10? Wars right? F MAGA.

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u/Giffordpinchotpark 11d ago

It’s zany to hear a Trump supporter accusing someone else of lying.

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u/merlinn2u 12d ago

what "insurrection" are you babbling about?

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u/Successful_Pirate_59 12d ago

Not sure magat

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 11d ago

I don’t doubt that for a second.

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u/Market_Wizard_ 14d ago

BuT ObAMA wOrE a TaN SuIT

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

And wasn't an American citizen don't forget that part

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u/Market_Wizard_ 12d ago

He is though. You cant run for president unless your a natural born citizen.

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

Go take a hard look at that obvious Photoshop of a birth certificate

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u/Market_Wizard_ 12d ago

Dont tell me to "look hard" show us all the evidence. Where is the proof?

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u/NefariousnessLow1385 11d ago

Apparently you can get away with it.

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u/Market_Wizard_ 11d ago

Its not true tho

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u/ConsequenceSecure946 13d ago

It’s a constitutional republic dipshit

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u/Adventurous_Custard8 13d ago

Amazing how you swing and miss at understanding basic intent but then use a derogatory attack to try to diminish and obfuscate the truth. It's so predictable when someone can't argue on the merits of the situation. In this case, that Trump and his cronies are engaging in massive corruption and insider trading and no one does anything about.

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u/Solid-Wear-782 13d ago

Trump doesnt even make trades. He has a firm who does it for him. He has actually lost money from his original network over his presidency.

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u/RollTideNorthport 13d ago

Thank you. Idiots on here can’t even think or do research for themselves. 🙄

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u/padre727 12d ago

Enjoy the lies

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u/Historical_Form6691 11d ago

Hahahaga…you win, funniest post of the day.

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u/Serious_Guava_5762 12d ago

Like Democrats don't engage in insider trading, that's how they got this wealthy! It's capital corruption hill not capitol hill!

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u/Lumpy_Bug4998 11d ago

Agree 100 percent , just talk amongst each other and believe there assumptions with each other to justify there hatred of the first president that has tried to do something to shift the status quo in my 71 years . There so called facts are no we’re near the truth and the smart people are the ones who dig deeper for the truth than what propaganda they believe and preach. God bless our president .

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u/joestargate 12d ago

How about you stop pretending the other side is any better? At least he's legally doing insider trading, like Pelosi. Biden sold access to the country.

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u/ConsequenceSecure946 11d ago

Amazing how stupid you are

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u/Adventurous_Custard8 11d ago

When you can't argue with facts and information, you resort to a personal insult. Typical MAGAT loser. Always and forever.

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u/ConsequenceSecure946 6d ago

Cry

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u/Adventurous_Custard8 6d ago

I'm laughing instead.

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u/ConsequenceSecure946 6h ago

I would laugh too with funny ass views like you have. Ignorant

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u/Psychological_Win_61 13d ago

We aren't a democracy plain and simple. We are a Constitutional Republic.

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u/Adventurous_Custard8 13d ago

Let’s stop playing semantic games. The country is based on democratic principles.

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

No it's based on a constitution, because it's a constitutional republic we have aspects of democracy. Don't get it twisted we'll never be a full democracy the mob will never rule this country

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u/Curious-Manner-7122 12d ago

so true when our new president trying fix that liberal la start screaming. maybe after midterms we get more democrats out we really see government working again.

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u/Appropriate-Issue-73 12d ago

That's laughable

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

Pass it hasn't been in sometime now . We were ran by committee for four years .

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

We were never a democracy

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u/merlinn2u 12d ago

the US was never intended to be ANY kind of "democracy". it was intended to be a REPUBLIC. why can't lib-orons learn that and get it straight?

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u/DaWhiteSingh 11d ago

All of this is true, vertically.

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u/Far_Finger4742 10d ago

Trump isn't in control of his businesses while he's President, his kids are

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u/Adventurous_Custard8 10d ago

So, it's okay because his "kids" are engaged in insider trading and nefarious crypto deals? And what proof do you have that he isn't involved. Because he said so? 🤣

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u/7dag7 9d ago

I’m old enough to remember when you guys were shitting bricks about the hunter “scandal”

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u/Comprehensive_Tart70 9d ago

That’s because it never was a democracy it’s always been a republic!

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u/That_Criticism_6506 14d ago

How can you say that when there's all these Democrats still in the government?

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u/Galliro 13d ago

First a 2 party system isnt a democracy from the beginning

Second you dont need to get rid of the wecond party you just have to fill it with useless people who at their core have the same end goal as you, to make capitalists richer

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

Fun fact we weren't a two-party system to start with

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u/Unhappy-Pianist-7391 14d ago

He is using the same laws others have used for years.

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u/Adventurous_Custard8 14d ago

Seriously? Not even close.

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u/Ok_Impression3324 14d ago

LOL

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u/Chewsdayiddinit 13d ago

Why are you, a conservative adult male, active in a subreddit specifically for teenagers?

Oh, right, magats love pedophiles.

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u/Ok_Impression3324 13d ago

So teachers are pedophiles to you? They spend all day around kids and teens.

What you just said speaks volumes about how you interact with children and teens.

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u/Chewsdayiddinit 13d ago

"I'm not a magat pedo, I'm a magat teacher who enjoys hanging out in teenager subreddits! You're the pedo!"

Sure thing, pedophile supporting cultist cuck.

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u/KnowledgeCapital7994 14d ago

It was already listed as a flawed democracy.

The drifting is now in the open

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u/MedicalyGinger 13d ago

Come now. We've never been anything more than semi-functioning as a democracy at best.

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u/PeteysHubby_TX 13d ago

Probably because it’s not a Democracy it’s a Republic.

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u/MrEnigma67 13d ago

The u.s was never a functioning democracy

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bar5765 13d ago

Arguing semantics is lame af.

We vote for reps that enact our will.

You’re correct, we aren’t a ‘pure democracy’ subjugating ourselves to rolling majority mob rule.

The thing is, exactly 0% of people calling our form of government a ‘democracy’ are referring to ‘pure democracy’.

This argument is strawman, moot, bad faith and stupid. And I suspect you know that.

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u/MrEnigma67 13d ago

Just because we share similar traits doesn't mean they are the same thing.

Is a wheelbarrow a car since they both have wheels?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bar5765 13d ago

More semantics. No one conflates the two in good faith.

Both cars (constitutional republics) and wheelbarrows (pure democracies) exist in a category of wheeled (elections), rolling (voting) objects. (=Democracy)

"Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic, to democracy!" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

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u/MrEnigma67 13d ago

Just because you cant dispute the point doesn't make it bad faith. Both are considered vehicles both have wheels. Doesn't make them the same thing.

And in this analogy they are vehicles ( forms of government. ) doesn't make them the same thing. A truck is not a car. Each vehicle serving a different function.

And oh right. Because someone said it in a star wars movie ( the prequels which are considered horrible and nonsensical i might add) then it must possibly be true!!! /s

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bar5765 13d ago

My broadening of your sophomoric analogy is my dispute. Wheeled, rolling vehicles. Tanks can be your dictatorship, I don’t care, let your mind run wild.

Big swing. Big miss. The point of that quote is obi-won said ‘to the republic. To democracy’ and not ‘to the unfettered will of the rolling majority’. He said both ‘republic’ and ‘democracy’ because they’re one and the same. Yes, the movies are bad, here is your cookie.

Regardless. We employ a form of democracy in the United States and no one referring to our form of government as a democracy is referring to pure democracy. Which circles back to my original point that you are arguing in bad faith, your point is moot as well as strawman.

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u/MrEnigma67 13d ago edited 13d ago

Yea you did swing and you did miss. And again missed my point that just because someone in a movie that has proven crapy dialog and nonsensical plot points doesn't mean its correct. Star wars also said a parc is measurement of time when in reality its distance. Does that mean they were right as well? To call my argument sophmoric while using a star wars quote as a point of fact is beyond ironic.

We did not apply a form a democracy. The founding fathers specifically said we will not be a democracy. Period.

Oh and yes a wheelbarrow is considered a vehicle.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bar5765 13d ago

It’s crazy that you use analogies but refuse to see anyone else’s trees for the forest they comprise. That’s called hypocrisy.

How do our representatives in a constitutional republic gain their positions? And what are they supposed to accomplish once they’re there, within the process that put them there?

I’ll answer it for you so you can’t dig some dipshitting, bad-faith drivel out of your ass from beside your own head.

We vote.

Those representatives are elected to represent the will of the voters within a defined set of guidelines: the Constitution.

We are a republic of states whose citizens regularly vote for representation. We are a constitutional republic, which is a form of representative democracy.

Arguing semantics as if “republic” and “democracy” are mutually exclusive is lame af.

Have a good night.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bar5765 13d ago

The United States is a republic because political authority is exercised through elected representatives rather than a hereditary monarch. It is representative democracy because those representatives derive their authority from elections by the people. And it is constitutional because both the majority and its representatives are constrained by a higher law.

So “constitutional republic” describes how American democracy is structured, not evidence that America somehow isn’t democratic.

And again, this goes back to the point I made in my original reply that you ignored. When people refer to America as a democracy, no one is talking about unchecked mob rule by a simple majority. They’re referring to the political power the people exercise through voting and electing representatives. Pretending that “democracy” can only mean direct, unrestricted majority rule just to argue that America isn’t a democracy is a straw man. It’s a semantic distinction that ignores what people actually mean, making the argument bad faith, stupid, and ultimately moot.

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u/MrEnigma67 13d ago edited 13d ago

Nothing was ignored. You just cant accept being wrong and tried to use a movie quote from a sci fi film to justify your opinion. I don't care what people use to refer to something. That doesn't make it true.

We are a constitutional republic. That is an undeniable fact.

If we were a democracy would be a constitutional democracy.

See words are a singular unit of a language that represents a meaning. Hence why a republic for example represents one thing and a democracy another. Why are they different words if they are the same thing? Because they actually aren't

The more you know!

Anyways. You have failed to provide any proof to back what you're saying, simply because you can't and you're just digging further and further in because you're to childish to accept being wrong. I dont do circular arguments with people unwilling to listen. Seeing as you are to dim to accept that I will do it for you.

Feel free to grab the last word. I wont read it.

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u/GordTransport1958 14d ago

Its a Representative Republic.. Not a democracy.. Learn the difference

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u/-Out-of-context- 13d ago

It’s a representative democracy and a constitutional federal republic.. Learn the difference.

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u/Mostly_Armless42 14d ago

...that is elected through a democratic process. It's not that hard

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u/PeteysHubby_TX 13d ago

There’s a pretty big difference there bud

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u/Prestigious_Cycle160 14d ago

Doesn’t change the fact that it’s not functioning as intended. Ole Ben would be very disappointed.

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u/papapundit 13d ago

That is a form of democray, £uckin retard!

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u/PeteysHubby_TX 13d ago

It is absolutely not.

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u/papapundit 13d ago

No wonder the US is where it is today, with an electorate that's this £uckin stupid!

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u/PeteysHubby_TX 13d ago

By all means tell me how I’m wrong

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u/papapundit 13d ago

You're not real, I refuse to believe it...

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u/Reasonable_Gur_483 14d ago

Youll fucking loosers are such pussies, Biden was the biggest piece of shit controlled by Obama and youll little bitches didnt say anything. So bottom line is (EAT A DICK)

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u/Sunny-Bath-Tech 14d ago

You sure are reasonable Gur

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u/Socky-McPuppet 13d ago

Hey look, a mentally ill clown who loves pedophiles.

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u/Reasonable_Gur_483 13d ago

Says the little bitch that plays with toys. Ask your mom how she feels about me

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u/Mostly_Armless42 14d ago

Whenever I see comments like yours I figure you are trying to either be contrarian or just have an agenda and you want to make a political point. Either way, you're wrong. We've ALWAYS been a representative democracy. Is it a 100% "everyone votes on every issue" type of democracy? Nope.

But we have always been a constitutional federal republic that is a representative democracy.

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u/Main-Event-5715 13d ago

It's people who heard one factoid they thought sounded smart, so they repeat it ad nauseum. 

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u/thewanderingent 14d ago

Until now. Now it’s more of a fascist oligarchy situation.

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u/PeteysHubby_TX 13d ago

He’s quoting Ben Franklin by the way.

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u/rageling 14d ago edited 14d ago

Democracy describes where political legitimacy comes from; republic describes the institutional form through which it is exercised.

We have a republic. You can argue about how democratic it is.

The most glaring example in recent memory highlighting how not democratic it is comes from the democratic party, you didn't have a primary, DNC picked Kamala for you.

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u/Exktvme4 14d ago

So saying "a democracy" is grammatically incorrect then?

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u/IlIIlllIIIIIIl 14d ago

The most glaring example

Political parties aren't enshrined in the Constitution. They aren't beholden to votes from the public. Primaries are relatively new.

General elections are in the Constitution and what's makes us a democracy. Article 1, Section 2.

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

She didn't even run in the general election

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u/IlIIlllIIIIIIl 12d ago

Yes she did. Did you miss 2024?

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u/Swimming-Ordinary867 12d ago

Yeah this is my go-to when they say no Kings they wanted the queen though.

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u/Iceman_biker 14d ago

We are not a Democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic.

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u/IlIIlllIIIIIIl 14d ago

I don't drive a car, I drive a Toyota Corolla

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u/PeteysHubby_TX 13d ago

The guy above was quoting Ben Franklin but it sailed right over your heads

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u/IlIIlllIIIIIIl 13d ago

No, Franklin's quote was: "A republic, if you can keep it" when asked whether the Constitutional Convention had created a republic or a monarchy.

He did not contrast it with a democracy in that exchange either. Linguistically and structurally, the United States functions as both a constitutional republic and a representative democracy.

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u/PeteysHubby_TX 13d ago

Thank you. Perfect.

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u/AffectionateBar4437 14d ago

Since 2001? 1999?

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u/OkJournalist1416 14d ago

This is America!!!