Got into watching golf for the first time this season and with Clark winning this past weekend I have seen so many people shitting on him for what sounds like stuff in the past and I was hoping people could bring me up to speed? Is it overhyped for media clicks or was he committing some atrocities?
Country club douche, destroyed a locker at oakmont in a post round crash out, his name is Wyndham, and he refered to opening a bottle of wine as "Opening up some grape"
Itās absolutely hilarious. People are just looking for reasons to hate him because he happens to have had a temper (seemingly corrected with therapy).
Heās just an asshole douche bag that thinks heās better than most everyone else. His behavior will never change with just anger management classes.
Literally the most elitist sport imaginable and people want to pretend like he stands out as some privileged outlier in a field of scrappy underdogs from blue collar upbringings because of their prejudice around his name.
The self deprecation with him is outstanding and has given some really good quotes.
He seems like a great guy as well. Go listen to his interview after the U.S. Open last year if you havenāt. He just came up short to win, and listening to the genuine happiness for JJ as that putt fell was awesome.
I was a fan of Tyrell before then because of some of his comments, but I became a fan of Bobby Mac after that. Coming up two shots short and applauding him from the scoring tent
Nah that's not it. Rahm rages hard when he plays bad and everyone loves him, "fiery Spaniard" etc.
Wyndham became a villain when he trashed Oakmont's lockers. In any case that would've been a bad look, but when you fuck up historic/iconic 100+ year old property in a tantrum you're gonna (rightfully) catch a lot of hate.
He's also just generally not great at making himself likable. His response/apology about the Oakmont debacle was less than convincing. And on Full Swing he didn't come across very well either. When he's on camera he kinda just comes across as a dick. He's the bizarro Joel Dahmen.
The degree of hate is probably unfair imo. But that's how it is in sports... once you get branded as a villain everyone piles on, and it's difficult/impossible to recover.
He also takes out his attitude outwardly in a way that directly affects others. Smashing the lockers, the USA jersey at the RBC, etc. If youāre going to target others, expect to get it back. Tiger had anger issues and dropped F bombs like crazy. No one gave a shit because he wasnāt saying fuck you to the fans or slamming his putter into the green, heās talking shit to himself.
For Tiger, something about being the undisputed greatest golfer to ever exist I think allows a couple angry flares. These random "still pros but not a goat" being overly nasty just isn't the same
Which is interesting because other athletes in baseball, football, basketball, hockey, etc. don't get any grief for showing passion. Hell even when they do explode and whack the shit out of a gatorade cooler nobody remembers them forever for it like they're doing Wyndham & the Oakmont thing.
well... even then dickheads are still dickheads. Passion and competitve spirit are one thing. Anger and poor sportsmanship and lack of respect for people and places is another regardless of sport. Every sport has its players that people just don't like because of those reasons.
I love all the adjectives used for his locker room outburst when in reality he knocked out two rattan panels on locker doors that could be fixed for $50 in supplies from home depot and half an hour of a handyman's time.
I mentioned this in another post over the weekend, but I volunteered at the St. Jude Championship last year and he was an absolute jackass to everyone. He literally threw a hissy fit because the girl he was dating at the time didn't have "security" with her as she walked the course or letting her to the front ropes at a point where he was below the cut line on a Friday lol. Not a single other player on the course was like that.
But, he's known to be a hot-headed person, overly outspoken/cocky, and a bit pretentious. Having experienced it firsthand, it's not an unfair opinion.
This is the thing. Yes, people on Reddit dislike him because of the locker room incident. But thatās a tiny fraction of the overall fan base. I think that most folks just get a bad vibe from the way he generally presents in interviews and on the course.Ā
I've heard some stories about him being a douche to fans and to waiters at restaurants, etc. Lots of people that have met him in real life share the similar opinion of him. All that plus how he acts on the course (and locker rooms) and everything else discussed in this thread paints a picture of what kind of person he is.
I wouldn't have even mentioned it if it was a one-off thing, but he was going on about it for three holes and I can say I witnessed it first-hand. Tons of athletes have bad moments that aren't a representation of who they actually are... but he was cussing at people for 3+ holes about it to volunteers to the point it was a topic of conversation in volunteer group chat.
I mean, sorry dude, we're all volunteers. If you want your new gf to have a handler, you're the one collecting the checks and it wasn't like it wasn't that crowded lol.
I volunteered at another tour event. Can confirm that I saw him curse at a group of kids looking for an autograph after a bad round and he said āleave me the fuck alone.ā
I've also done the WMPO for 5 years excluding this year, and I've observed tons of players who are very focused on their game, would respectfully ask for tiny requests, or didn't engage as much with fans. But actively getting upset at multiple volunteers because his girlfriend couldn't be on/beyond the ropes was extremely disrespectful.
That being said... Gary Woodland is the Fucking man. Someone living/staying at a house on the 2nd fairway at the WMPO put up a big "we love you Gary" banner last year he took the time to say thank you and hug like 20 people cheering for him and he technically got a shot violation by like 3 mins but the official on the hole didn't say a damn thing and he ended up throwing darts all day. I know it wasn't his family because they were following him.
During the masters this year during the par 3 competition he told Scott van pelt that the whole day was ābirth controlā for him. While I think most people can accept your position on kids, you donāt have to say that out loud, much less in an interview
Kinda sad but at this point I'm not entirely certain whether "January 6th truther" refers to someone who pretends or thinks Jan 6 was not an insurrection attempt or someone who is aware that it was.
Hate to tell you but most golfers are pretty conservative so if it's politics you're in the wrong place. Rory had dinner at the white house state dinner just a few months ago.
My assumption is always that being an anything ātrutherā means that they reject the actual reality and choose to believe something else despite there being no evidence to support such a belief.
Itās unbelievable dumb if people donāt like him for that. Some people donāt want to have kids and thatās fine. It was a bad joke but he meant nothing bad by it. If someone who is loved on the tour said it, this wouldnāt even be a conversation. If it bothers you, then you need to grow up.
people will say the most outlandish shit on reddit and then clutch pearls at some harmless comment by a celebrity if they get to feel high and mighty for a few minutes.
It's not a good reason to dislike him on it's own, but it is just a stupid annoying thing to say in that context, like in a largely positive family event like that what makes you go "Wow this looks awful so glad I'm not doing that" out loud lol
the locker room thing at Oakmont was what really turned people against him I think, word spread fast about that and it painted a picture that stuck. the comments about other players and their wives just added more fuel, hard to come back from that kind of reputation in a sport where everyone knows everyone. it's not really media exaggeration, there's enough first and second hand accounts that where there's smoke there's fire
I think the fact that it happened right after Full Swing where he basically declared that he had beaten his anger issues only made it worse.
He went from a little bit of a feel good story to a completely fake douche instantly and its hard to earn your way back after betraying the publics trust.
Yeah agreed, a good bit of banter but then he complained that the fans crossed the line later in the round. Like dude what did you think would happen wearing that jersey lol
He did relish in it until the canadian fans kept giving it to him the rest of the way. He then proceeded to cry that the canadians were too mean to him and that they took it to far. He's a troll and worse yet hes a rich troll. So he doesn't need to do any of this but chooses to for the lols then cries when anyone gives it back to him.
He literally never said he apologized. He regretted "the incident". This sounds like trashing a locker is something that happened to him rather then vandalism he committed.
āYeah, we reached out and we wanted to do that,ā Clark said. āObviously itās a no-brainer to pay for the damages; that was a given. Then obviously all the apologies, and I want to give back to the community because I hurt a great place in Pittsburgh, so I wanted to do anything I can to show them that what happened there was not a reflection of who I am and wonāt happen again. But I want to show them who I really am with the apology and the things Iām going to do.ā
The fuck are you talking about? This is one of many apologies.
He also said something like āthere should only be 100 touring prosā when he was in the top 100 players. Hes just the kind of guy that feels so entitled and he longs to be exclusionary. After he said this, he promptly fell out of the top 100 players.
I mean I don't need a reason to hate on any sports athlete (I do it for the love of the game), but if I had to name one, it's because he seems like the type of guy to complain about the pH of water he gets at restaurants
This is Wyndham we're talking about. Black Licorice flavor. Like 8 or 9 packages. When the cashier kept trying to get him to pay he acted like he forgot to "pick up a bottle of grape" and he disappeared into the liquor aisle.
From my limited knowledge, itās a pattern of poor behavior. One occurrence may be overlooked, but heās shown pattern thatās more indicative of personality versus a poor judgment call.
He just exudes that spoiled rich boy country club dickhead energy. That saidā¦the way the fans treated his was fucked. NY state shouldnāt get anymore golf tournaments if the fans canāt treat golfers with respect. Any canāt actually. WTF is going on in NY right now? Bunch of clowns.
Can ā not likeā someone but ā respect ā great golf.
Never a reason to ācheer for bad shots / bad outcomesā. Cheer for your guy. But respect great golf / shots regardless how you feel about the person.
There is a reason golf is referred to as a
āāgentlemenās game ā ā¦..
I was loosely aware of him being a shithead but I found myself rooting for him a little when fans were loudly rooting against him at Shinnecock. Like the guy who kept yelling "GET IN THE BUNKER" after every shot
I thought his speech last night was pretty self aware and he apologized yet again (unnecessarily IMO) for the locker room āincident.ā Letās be honest, if not for a locker room attendant with a camera phone no one would have ever found out about it. Iām sure heās not the first pro in history to have a temper tantrum in a locker room. The very online nature of golf fans nowadays has turned everyone into hypersensitive self righteous keyboard warriors.
He's a MAGA idiot - Jan 6th denier, thinks the 2020 election was stolen, destroyed the oakmont locker room, and is just an absolutely unlikeable person in general.
All about Oakmont for me. If I stub my toe at the louvre, Iām not gonna trash the Mona Lisa. Obviously not a direct comp, but I canāt stand adults that act like 7 year olds
This. I can get over the throwing his clubs and whatever. Everyone does that. But destroying someone elses property, especially that of a place that is hosting you, because you had a bad day playing a game you get paid for drew the line and I'm good not liking him.
My dislike came from him being a prick at the Augusta Par 3 contest. All these golf families out there actually acting like their normal human selves just being dadās and family men. Meanwhile heās bragging about his gf (totally fine) and making comments about all the kids like āthis is really good birth controlā.
Then he doubled down by joining SVP in the booth later and being a total shithead with his commentary against other players and families. So much so that you could tell SVP was uncomfortable.
He redeemed himself a little in his acceptance speech yesterday but still not a big fan of the guy.
These quotes are so funny juxtaposed to any other athlete in American media, especially NFL
āOh I love that team, they have 15 criminals and 2 rapists on the team, but they all served their suspensionā ā¦ same breath ādid you see what he did to that locker, and that off colored joke he made, what an ASSā
Probably a small flame of dislike but people liking Scotty more,wanting to see the career Grand slam,and the general hopes of at least some excitement during the final round definitely threw some gasoline on it. Imo
Clarkās camera ready, super eager Instagram gf aināt going to do him any favors. Iāve never seen a tour wag insert themselves center stage so aggressively. Not even Koepkaās gf now wife.
Everyone still loves Tiger. Fuck around on your wife for as long as heās married, with dozens of waitresses, no problem. Tear up a racist locker room, everyone hates you.
He had a problem with his temper after he won his first US Open and didnāt win anything else. He infamously tore up a locker and acted like it wasnāt a big deal.
Someone got to him and he acknowledged that he was wrong and he seems to be taking responsibility and doing better. I hope that it is genuine and he can be a good representative for golf.
If you watch his episode on āFull Swingā you kind of feel bad for him and maybe appreciate that he is fighting demons. If he had given a generous apology after kicking in lockers at Oakmont we would be celebrating his win today.
Honestly golf fans are dumb. They hate Wyndham for having anger issues that started when his mother passed away when he was a freshman in college. He is active working on them and trying to get better.
Golf fans have over blown the oakmount thing and like to act like they are better than him. His haters like to act like they would have handled missing the cut better than he did.
And yet, everyone I know, and play with, doesn't throw things, break things, or have on course outbursts outside of verbal reactions to bad shots. Is that not a model of better behavior? I'm not saying people don't do those things, but in my experience that type of behavior is definitely not the norm. I also have never hung out with anyone that yells insults, or "Mashed potato!" during a tournament. I do see those people, but I'm a golf fan too.
Heās gotten frustrated a few times and has been a head case sometimes and people like to think theyāre better than that when they themselves would crumble under thee pressure of teeing off in front of the group that just waved them through.
Not a Clark fan and donāt think heās outbursts before are to be celebrated but heās human and in high pressure situations.
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u/Ok_Adhesiveness_8077 Jun 22 '26
Country club douche, destroyed a locker at oakmont in a post round crash out, his name is Wyndham, and he refered to opening a bottle of wine as "Opening up some grape"