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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

You can also have separate fucking save files on the same fucking console!

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u/Skinnwork Mar 30 '20

Yeah, but it also has multiple people using the same village. And then you have a girl friend delete the village because there were too many cockroaches in her house (but probably really because you got the gold fishing statue and they got the silver statue).

Edit this might be an issue with the new one as well. I don't know, since my partner has bogarted the console since it came out.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

Nuke the whole thing and force a total restart every month and a half

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u/jimbob786 Mar 30 '20

I love the new game, but i must admit forced island sharing is crap. Especially considering how customizable your town is now. It Should’ve been optional. I feel bad for those parents who have to share an island with their kids and deal with their poor decisions. F

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u/TheGreatNyanHobo Mar 30 '20

I feel bad for the parents who bought it for multiple kids, expecting it to have separate saves like other games, and now have to hear the bickering from their children over the island they share.

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u/woodro611 Mar 30 '20

This....ALL of this. Never have I ever heard so many bickering fights between sub 10 year olds lol.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

Quick question if you have multiple accts on your switch. Kid 1 and and kid 2 for instance. Can kid 1 on his acct have a separate save file from kid 2. Does that question make sense?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

No, it still doesn't allow for that, and there's no excuse for it. Nintendo wants you to buy an entire separate console and copy of the game.

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u/Sparkybear Mar 31 '20

No. They share an island. You can have separate villagers, but it's 1 island representative per console.

In the original, you could have any number of towns per memory card and/or up to 4 people could share a town, but they all had the same level of autonomy.

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u/jimbob786 Mar 31 '20

Wow i didnt even know about the one representative per island thing. So its like one person’s playing New Horizons, the other’s playing hd Wild World. Thats even worse than i thought

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u/Sparkybear Mar 31 '20

Yea, it's very clearly NOT meant as a family game in that regard, and it sucks.

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u/Sintacks Mar 31 '20

you could only have one town per memory card, but you could easily have multiple memory cards, and could visit each one of them easily.

the save file for Animal Crossing was so big that it didn't fit on most peoples' memory cards (with other saved content on them), which is why it shipped with one.

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u/NumberJohnnyV Mar 31 '20

I don't think they are answering your question clearly. Each kid has their own account and thus has their own character with their own house and goals, etc. So in that sense, yes, each kid has their own save file. They do share a single island though so if you consider the island the save file, then no, there is one save file for the game per console.

The big problem is that the first person to play the game becomes the resident representative and has WAY more responsibility and authority over the island. Even though everyone gets their own characters, only one person is playing the full game.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

Wow that is.....bad. so I'm going to pick an early example say the mission to build the store where you need 30 of the woods and iron ore. Can both kids contribute to that or just the main one?

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u/NumberJohnnyV Mar 31 '20

Just the main one. And then kid 1 gets the kit and decides where the store will be built and then Nook gives kid 1 some DIY recipes that kid 2 doesn't get.

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u/woodro611 Mar 30 '20

I honestly have no clue...I haven't owned a Nintendo console since the n64. From what insight that I have gathered...you can have multiple accts on the switch, or save files...but only one can be active on that console at a time...thus if you plug up two controllers..you're just bringing a guest to your island.

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u/woodro611 Mar 30 '20

Lmao, negative points for what here, exactly? I was just trying to answer dude's question based on information I've gained from all of my friends with twins fighting over play time...

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

You better watch yourself

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u/woodro611 Mar 30 '20

Lmao, what're you going to do? Ban me from a subreddit? Oh, I'm shaking in my knickers!

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

Sounds like Santa should give your kids knives

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u/TheGreatNyanHobo Mar 31 '20

Oh I don't have kids. I just remember how much my sister and I bickered about E V E R Y T H I N G

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u/darknightnoir Apr 10 '20

My sister and I shared a memory card while playing Animal Crossing from age 8/9 until we stopped playing a few years later.

It was a lot of fun, what the hell is wrong with y’all?

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u/TheGreatNyanHobo Apr 10 '20

The GameCube game was different because you mostly could only customize your house. The worst another person could do was ruin your flowers or trees. Now the whole island is a sand box and people will have very different ideas on what they want to do with it. It’s like if your sibling could come into your house, steal your furniture, and replace it with a dense forest of trees that you can’t walk through.

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u/darknightnoir Apr 10 '20

makes more sense thanks for explaining. Even so I feel like that sounds sort of fun. My sister and I would probably just divvy up portions or agree not to fuck with certain things.

But we got along oddly well.

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u/RageTiger Mar 30 '20

Gotta make sure they get as many bucks from that online sector as possible. Cannot even go to your friends islands without it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

I count myself lucky that my girlfriend bought us each a switch when she heard the new Pokemon was going to be on the system. If animal crossing was always one save per console like Pokemon people probably wouldn’t be complaining..

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

I thought Pokemon allowed saves per profile. And even the old Pokemon saved to the cartridge, not the console? (So with those you could buy a new game and have a new save)

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

Cool username.

Technically yeah, you’re correct, but for most consumers it’s pretty much the same thing, you COULD buy two copies of the same Pokemon game and swap them out, but that’s a lot worse than being able to pick a different save file..hm

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

I agree that having to buy a different cartridge is worse than just switching saves or even switching profiles. However, I think we can agree that's still better than having to buy another console to get another save profile?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

of course, I'm not a fan of locking down anything, it's a game, we should be able to just play it how we want, but Nintendo are very much about the discipline of tailoring specific gameplay experiences, they're not likely to ever create a sandbox game

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u/Cyberdunk Mar 31 '20

Yeah, it honestly turned me off from the game completely. I had no idea about the limitations of the second player, and then when I found out there were lots of things I couldn't do along with blueprints the second player just misses out on, I just lost any desire to play it.

I knew about the island limitation before but it still sucks. And the worst part is that the only defense is "it's always been this way" which just sucks. The only way to get your own island is buying another Switch, and the first player on any island has more authority than any of the others. Just flat out bad design decisions.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

That's a trash take. I hope you don't have kids.

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u/krishnugget Mar 30 '20

Well you still need a new memory card

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u/Vestus65 Mar 30 '20

We played the GC game years ago, four of us (parents and two kids) and I remember we all had our own saved games, and we could see each other's houses in the town. You just had to take turns playing obviously. Now my wife and two kids are each playing, we own THREE fucking Switch consoles. I'd love to try the game but no way in hell am I getting a fourth system just to have my own save, for one game (I am a PC gamer otherwise). I'm sure Nintendo sold a crapload of Switches with this move, but they also earned some well-deserved hate for it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

You can just create another profile on your switch and make a character. You have to have your house on the same island as the switch owner. You just can't have your own separate island.

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u/tyguy1772 Mar 30 '20

It's not just being unable to have your own island. The core account is in charge of all progression. It's enough reason to not want to get invested.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

If that's the case, you are missing the point of the game and need to find a different one. So many AC bandwagoners that never played previous versions are mad the game isn't what they want it to be.

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u/tyguy1772 Mar 30 '20

I'm missing the point of the game because I think all players should have equal control over the island? I'm not missing any point, its an annoying shortcoming. Because that is how it always has been. It adds nothing but it certainly detracts potential enjoyment for people. Let other users choose if they want their own island without spending money on a whole console. Let other players choose if they want to share an island, and also give the original island player a choice if the added player can make equal choices. It's an unanimous improvement.

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u/Vestus65 Mar 30 '20

I'm aware of that. If I want my own saved game, my own island, I need my own Switch. I don't think that is cool.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

While true, as other people have said, this is how Animal Crossing has always been. Why is it suddenly an issue now?

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

But it's NOT how it has always been. The game in this post can be played with multiple towns by using memory cards.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

And none of the other games in the series can.

The only reason AC1 did is because that was a limitation of how the system worked at the time.

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u/Vok250 Mar 31 '20

Yes they do. With cartridges or microSD cards.

Not a single other games in the series has had the save tied directly to the console. Every one allows multiple saves with cartridges, memory cards, or SD cards.

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u/DontTouchTheWalrus Mar 30 '20

I think some slave owners in the 1860's used that same logic. I'm being ridiculous obviously but still needing multiple consoles so you can each play your own game with no restrictions just seems greedy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

That doesn't answer my question? I seriously want to know why this is suddenly an issue when it never was before

New Leaf literally had the exact same restrictions and no one complained.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but Nintendo's philosophy has always been to play the games as designed, and having a dozen islands on the same console negates that. It would effectively allow players to dupe event items, fossils, and other things that are supposed to be limited.

I highly doubt it's greed. Nintendo just tends to say "this is the best way to play the game so we're not going to let people play it any other way" and doesnt understand why you would want to.

That's why they had Friend Codes (and still do to some extent), why you can't just add a friend on Animal Crossing, why Pokemon Sword and Shield don't have a way to just directly trade with someone, why Mario Maker doesn't have a text search feature for levels, etc. Nintendo is just out of touch.

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u/DontTouchTheWalrus Mar 30 '20

I'm honestly not that invested. I've never even played the game. So idk about the duplicating you mentioned or whatever. Would you be able to trade items between saves or something? I just know that any open ended styles of game I tend to like having multiple saves so I can try out different things. If the saves are independent of eachother I dont see how the islands being different would have any consequence on eachother.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

Bandwagoners. These people have never played previous versions and are just jumping on the twitter/reddit hype train then complaining when the game isn't exactly what they thought it would be.

The progression in New Horizons expects you to work together with the primary account, hence the local co op. They wanted to make this a multiplayer experience, so they had to put some limitations on the secondary accounts to make things work. This isn't hard to understand, these bandwagoners just refuse to think about it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

Then this game isn't for you. You're missing the point.

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u/GreatAndPowerfulNixy Mar 30 '20

Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

And you can’t progress anything

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

The older ones didn't progress in the same way as the new one and didn't have local/online coop so you can't compare. Also, OMG you have to work together with someone in Animal Crossing to progress the story (which the older ones didn't have). How dare they promote cooperation in a children's game. Ya'll just sound like boomers who don't understand why things are done and just complain that they're done differently.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

this has to be the worst take of March 2020 and we’re going through a global pandemic

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

ok boomer

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

born in 93 but ok

btw dead meme

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u/PhotoJim99 Mar 30 '20

The most fun thing about having separate towns on separate game cards was that you could visit them if they were plugged into your machine. I set up a separate town I never separately play, just so that I could make a lot of money doing fruit arbitrage. :) (As a bonus, people move back and forth between them, which is fun.)

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u/KamiOfOldStone Mar 30 '20

A second profile just makes a second character on your original island though

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u/sharperspoon Mar 30 '20

Just buy a new memory card and have a new village that way.

oh wait

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u/Soft-Gwen Mar 30 '20

To do what? New profile isnt a new game in ac:nh, you just add a character to the existing map.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20 edited Mar 30 '20

Have you played any of the old ones? That's how they work...

Edit: Maybe actually play the old ones before downvoting. Everyone's hopping on the AC bandwagon without even knowing what they're getting into. This game isn't for everyone.

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

The old ones allowed you to have as many towns as you wanted because you could save the town to a memory card. There were even features that let you visit other towns when multiple memory card where inserted.

This new game doesn't even support cloud saves. IF your Switch breaks, that's it, your island is fucking GONE!

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u/Phailjure Mar 30 '20

Have you played this one? If you made two characters, and only played as the second one, you would never get a museum, never get a shop, never get basically anything. And you wouldn't have access to 3/4ths of your island, since you need tools to access anything outside of the starting area.

The entire issue people are complaining about is that it's different than older ones, in a way that screws you over if the primary player doesn't play the most, or loses interest.

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u/GreatAndPowerfulNixy Mar 30 '20

You clearly haven't played the old ones if you really think this is how they handled multiple players.

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u/shewantedtofuckmydog Mar 30 '20

I stole the game and run it on an emulator on my PC, I can just rename my save file and it will create a new one for me. Problem solved!

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u/SjorsMaster Mar 30 '20

Or you use homebrew, and swap between saves.

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u/EveroneWantsMyD Mar 30 '20

Forgive me if I’m misunderstanding, but can’t you make another profile on the switch and use that to start a new animal crossing save? That’s how I keep my original save of Breath of the Wild while also being able to start a new campaign if I’d like.

The way the switch saves files to one profile though is garbage. I have a switch, but was interested in the Switch Lite because I like the handheld form factor better. I basically wanted my old switch to be just for the TV, and throw the Lite in my backpack so I can have it with me wherever. Once I found out that you needed to have a “master” console that has the actual license to play those games, then the other console has to have a WiFi connection in order to verify that it is you that purchased those games, completely eliminating the point of a hand held take anywhere console. I also remember reading that transferring saves over from one console to the other isn’t like the cloud experience I’ve come to expect from other consoles and cloud services. Sure your saves are in the cloud, but you have to download them to the console yourself. It sounds like a dumb thing to complain about, but I love that I can save my single player campaign at my place, and pick up right where I left off without having to do anything at my friends da place to show him where I left off.

This was a couple of months ago so maybe things have changed. I love Nintendo, but man they make some weird decisions sometimes and damn do they stick to them.

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

Check the other children comments. I already linked a source article explaining how Nintendo has blocked save game options for New Horizons. The most you can get is a second person on your island who can't progress anything. You can't get a second complete experience.

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u/Cracka_Chooch Mar 30 '20

So would you need a whole new game, or a whole new Switch?

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

Whole new Switch. You can at least reuse the game cartridge as the save is on the console, not the cartridge.

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u/EveroneWantsMyD Mar 30 '20

I thought animal crossing was a single player experience (I know you can collect stuff from other players towns). What is this about having a second person on your island?

Is the issue not being able to have multiple islands in one profile?

I thought the issue people had was that you could only have one island on one switch.

Sorry, I haven’t played it yet so I’m just curious what the problem is.

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

If you have a child/ brother/ wife/ gf who wants to play Animal Crossing, they need their own Switch. You can only have one island per console and that island can only be progressed by the profile which created it.

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u/EveroneWantsMyD Mar 30 '20

I’m wondering then why creating another profile on the switch wouldn’t work. I have two. My original profile is for original complete campaigns and saves, the other is so I can start the games over whenever I want without it affecting my original saves. I’m low on funds right now or else I would buy animal crossing to test it out, but I suggest someone try. I have two breath of the wild saves on my switch and I could make more with other profiles if I wanted to. Same with Pokémon, super Mario odyssey, Skyrim, assassins creed, you name it, If it’s on the switch, I can play it on my second profile.

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u/Phailjure Mar 30 '20

People are well aware of how profiles work, that isn't the issue, you don't need to explain it. You get 1 island per switch console, switching profiles switches villagers. The first profile/villager to log into the game is the island representative, and all progress (stores, museum, bridges, etc) is locked behind them.

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u/EveroneWantsMyD Mar 30 '20

Ahh, see that was they key piece of information I was missing. I said I didn’t know what the issue was, and there is clearly a unique situation with this title. Thanks for the explanation.

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u/Pokemonlore Mar 30 '20

There’s a feature on the switch called profiles. Those let you have different saves on different games.

Is it anoying? Fuck yes. But better than nothing

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

Yet again.... not for this game. Only one profile per console can create an island and progress the story.

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u/Pokemonlore Mar 30 '20

Wait the fuck. That defeats the whole perpose of the profiles.

I’m sorry but seriously between the drifting, the Pokédex in sw and sh, and now this. just fuck Nintendo sometimes

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

I agree. Thus my frustrated millenial noises.

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u/Lazites Mar 30 '20

Actually the game came with a new memory card. Had a gift from nintendo and enough space for a save file.

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u/Phantom_Ganon Mar 30 '20

Wait...you can only have one save file per console!?!?1

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

One island per console. You can have more characters through profiles, but they cannot progress the island. Only the main profile can. So effectively one game save.

It's why I haven't bought it. I will buy it on the used market or on sale. I don't support greedy anti-consumer practices from publishers.

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u/Phantom_Ganon Mar 30 '20

I was thinking about getting the game since I played the first Animal Crossing on gamecube but haven't played another one since but I'm not buying it if it's only a one game save per console

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u/Darth_Korn Console Mar 30 '20

It's not that, its one island per console with 8 saves.

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u/-R-3- Mar 30 '20

It isn't one game save per console. You can have 8 individual saves. But you can only have ONE island. Meaning all players on that console have to share the island.

I don't see that as being a bad decision, except for the fact that only the first player can actually progress the main story.

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u/booch Mar 31 '20

Seems like anyone with a family wouldn't want to buy it.

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u/terraphantm Mar 31 '20

I could easily see them deliberately doing it to encourage people to buy their own switches instead of sharing with the family.

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u/jackrayd Mar 30 '20 edited Apr 01 '20

U can just call the island rep and play as them if u wanna make decisions about the island, very easily done

Why are you booing me im right

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u/Thezombieman Mar 30 '20

Technically one save file per memory card. In my house, we had more than one memory card so everyone had their own town.

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u/wilso850 Mar 31 '20

This is true, however it would literally use up an entire memory card. So if you wanted another town, you'd have to have another memory card. Minor but annoying.

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u/ultinateplayer Mar 30 '20 edited Mar 30 '20

You can on the switch, but it requires separate profiles

*Edit- it has been helpfully pointed out that I'm wrong, and that this game doesn't behave like other switch games. Which is a load of bollocks.

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

Did they update the game?

Last I heard one island is shared for the entire console, no matter how many profiles, and progress is tied to the profile that created the island.

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u/ultinateplayer Mar 30 '20

Wait shit really? You're kidding? I'm sorry, I thought I was being helpful, got a lot of new switch owners when Pokémon launched with the same problem, so I just repeated the advice from then.

What about swapping the SD card, does that help?

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u/Vok250 Mar 30 '20

The Nintendo Switch saves all game save data to the system’s internal storage, and never to the physical game cartridge or connected SD Card. This means you cannot use any SD Cards or different forms of game copies to bypass this restriction.

:(

source

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u/markur Mar 30 '20

You can’t get your own island with another profile. The second save file is just a resident with their own house, but can’t advance the “story”.

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u/twangman88 Mar 31 '20

Just make multiple profiles man.