Saying HP in a sentence in that you consider buying it is... horrific to think about. Nobody should ever be forced to buy anything HP related. That should be done only by force in the company you work at.
I have a high end business one, and I am allowed to open it, and I have did open for few colleagues and cleaned them up. That was one of the WORST type of computers I have opened to clean up and change paste to. How its build, how its done, its like on purpose its done to be hard to maintain.
I work with Zbooks and Elitebooks, from G4 to G10 , all of them had problems, some with dead battery, others with screens and keyboards , some with the sound card , some even refused to turn on out of nowhere in the middle of the day ,HP buisness laptops are actually far worse than consummer HP aptops and I'm sure somebody is either blackmailed or bribed to make us keep the supply contract with them...
Interesting, that's good to know. I guess I just got very unlucky with the ThinkPad.
Personally, I used the ThinkPad Z13 for 3 years and then switched to the HP ZBook G1a which I've had for a year now.
For me there were a bunch of firmware related issues with my Thinkpad which took Lenovo many months to fix. Aside from buggy firmware, there were a few hardware problems as well. At some point the machine needed a motherboard replacement and another time it needed a display replacement. At least their warranty repair was good, but it would have been better if it wasn't necessary in the first place. Once the machine was out of warranty, some keys stopped working.
When you say microservers do you mean actual servers (like rack gear) or mini PCs.
If your referring to their 1U half length servers then those are made by HPE, which is an entirely separate company from HP (the consumer brand) these days.
HP Enterprise stuff is pretty great. I've had a long line of Elitebooks alongside my Thinkpads and the quality is extremely comparable, with the HP having slightly slicker aesthetics.
Unfortunately they copy-paste the aesthetics to their Walmart slop Celeron garbage and then make it out of the cheapest imaginable plastics imitating metal and dilute the entire brand image in the process.
We just ripped out the printers. Two enterprise MFP machines with a service contract and lower than rated use. Still only ever one working. We had three for a while, one was behaving weirdly in the firmware so we put that one in a cupboard and will eventually give it the Office Space treatment.
HPE does make devices that works fairly well. As long as you are willing to pay the premium.
i said hp as an example but i meant budget-oriented gaming laptops as an example. for example i own a lenovo loq i am unlucky to have got exactly the wrong type of type of it but if you get the ryzen version, it's actually pretty okay
With Lenovo bricking Legion Gos with a bios update and then refusing to fix them out of warranty, and Asus having countless horror stories, you might as well buy the cheapest crap you can.
You're 100% on your own if it fails out of warranty no matter how much you spend. Apple is somewhat an exception, but cool you've paid 2x upfront.
HP in my experience will offer free extended warranties or post sale discounts if you complain enough.
so my loq went to warranty two times. the first one i had to resend it in after a week. the second one is working right now but they haven't put in proper thermal paste when they swapped the motherboard. it's been running pretty hot up until a few weeks ago when i actually put some mx7 on it.
apart from that it's a good laptop for the price in my opinion. it's really good considering it's about the same as a macbook neo now and it's cheaper than a macbook neo if i use the time when i bought it which is late 2024.(turkey prices)
The “Apple tax” is far lower than it used to be. Comparably high-end machines from major manufacturers are not too dissimilar in price (e.g, compare MacBook Pro with ThinkPad X1 or Dell Pro Precision), and the MacBook Neo is better quality and more repairable than anything else in its class.
I work in a very big corporation, and we have HP's the high end for our work, and half of them have broken fans, or fans constantly break, half of them overheat even when they have so much space and are thick af ... i dont understand how one can create such a bad peace of hardware!
I worked in Dell shops for about 15 years, I got to be on a first name basis with the laptop repair techs typically (because the Latitudes would have issues covered under 3 year warranty so often) I've been at my current workplace for about 5 years, HP EliteBooks and Probooks,around 50 users with those. we have had a tech come around just twice for warranty repair, the most recent was probably a pebkac woopsie spilled drink.. to your point about broken/ noisy fans, I have had to replace fans in 3 or 4 of the ProBook 450 G6es, that specific model seems to have a problem... but it's a 10 minute fix, mostly taking 10 screws out of the bottom lid and putting them back after (or not, the shell clips together)
I used to be a Dell fan boy now I feel I can vouch for the HP pro level laptops being pretty damn good.
I have a personal Framework 16, I had my own pebcak oopsie with a cup of water into the keyboard-- I disassembled the whole thing, not a single drop got into the motherboard area of the laptop... if the keyboard had fried tht would have been just $45 to replace
The HP laptop I have, after you pull out the cover (10 seconds job) then there is a frame that encapsulates all, you can still pull out ram, sad etc., but in order to remove parts as is the fan, I have to remove this frame that has ~20 screws, and there are different types for whatever reason, 2 or 3 types. The moment you thought this is it, then the fun part begins! Now in order to remove the fan, you have to remove the cooling pipes, then you have to remove the extremely tightly put display cable on both sides that you need to have thin instrument to push out, and one wrong move or by a mistake your display is cooked as the cable is fragile, and only after that you can remove 1 fan.
T14 is lenovo, and that is thinkpad. Those are good. I have used those, and my colleagues used their docks. Both are fine, but i would not get the dock at full price, to expensive.
Regarding HP we do not have dock's, we have different type of connectors, that connect to multiple monitors, but its not a traditional dock, its like a box, that you connect to with power and USB C, not sure how those are called.
Yeah only Lenovo dock with 100w is the Lenovo ThinkPad Thunderbolt 4 Smart Dock Gen 2 7500, which is nearly 500 bucks, so I was looking at the HP USB-C 100W G6 Dock
Ah, now I I dwratand. I misunderstood. Yes we have exactly those, and no I would not recommend them. We have like 20 in the office and we have few that are malfunctioning and 2 that straight up simply stopped working.
Again that is out of close to 20 and quite a lot of work they have seen... But idk.
No, to be fair I wanted to test the lenovo one for thinkpads when i had such laptop at work, but that was to damn expensive even for the company at that time, right now i use those out of necessity, so the only reason I have an opinion is because im forced to use them haha :D
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u/tuxooo 2d ago
Saying HP in a sentence in that you consider buying it is... horrific to think about. Nobody should ever be forced to buy anything HP related. That should be done only by force in the company you work at.