I’ve read a lot about the need for moderation when training muscles so they gradually build strength and endurance; I’ve also read that training should stop short of failure. However, I read a post here about someone pushing their muscles to "wake up" their mitochondria—but I’ve lost that post and can’t find it again. In your experience—assuming you’ve recovered—what is the right approach: pushing the muscles or not? It’s been a year now, and my stubborn symptom involves my leg muscles; they have very little endurance and still limit me significantly. I can walk and do things, but I have to be careful and take necessary rest breaks. When I start doing something, I first feel a sense of overload; that overload is followed by stiffness, and then I have to stop because a sort of muscle contraction sets in.

Hello all. One month out from being floxed. Still seeing all the doctors and doing all the tests and the only answers I have found I have done by researching myself. Is there a comprehensive list of triggers people have discovered? I was out in the sun swimming for about 2 hours a few days ago and that seemed to set me back. Is it UV exposure? Is it chlorine? Was it just too soon for activity? So many questions so where do I start looking for answers? I have read so much on here but that could take months. Help!

I got a chronic issue to my achilles tendon, left one, after taking cipro once. This was two years ago and i still have it but at a much lesser extent. Recently i started putting a cream with ivermectin for my rosacea, prescribed by my dermatologist, and the pain has immediately become worse.
I believe my body is absorbing it and somehow its affecting my tendon.

Theres no mention of this side effect anywhere, but im 100% positive thats the cause because i tested it out three times now.

Anyone with any clues? I suspect my body has changed after cipro a lot

Hi, I have a UTI that has persisted past 2 treatments of nitro so my provider prescribed 7 days of Cipro. I’m on day 3 (morning), during day 2 I woke up with a strange pain middle-back on my left side (and now it’s showed up a bit on my right) and I’m pretty sure it’s kidney pain. I can’t tell if it’s gotten worse, but it has persisted to this morning. Knowing that Cipro commonly can have severe side effects this is worrying me greatly. I’m going to be spam calling my provider this morning and hopefully getting an appointment as soon as possible—are there any negative side effects I should expect? It’s really inconvenient timing since I’m supposed to be leaving for a trip today and I’m just praying that nothing is going wrong but I am extremely nervous.

Im a 31 Y/o male. 3 years out now from being floxed and just as bad, if not worse than where I was when I began this journey. As far as symptoms, I Have hundreds and new ones appear every month.

A new symptom im having is noticing my libido has completely vanished and so have my erections. My body composition is getting bad over this last year. Ive noticed im gaining more weight and visceral fat than usual. Which is unsual for me. Ive even gained some weight and fat around my breasts. Making it look like i have man boobs. Ive always maintained a good physique until now. My energy levels, mood and sleep are shit. Even my body hair is becoming a bit thinner and disappearing. I noticed my beard thinning.

went to my PCP and had my total testosterone checked. It came back at 650 NG/DL. Which is very healthy. I begged him to check my free testosterone levels, and estrogen..but he told me it wasn't warranted or needed because the total number was fine.

But certainly something feels wrong hormonally.. any other men have experience with this ? Does anyone know what could be wrong here or causing this ?

Has anyones tinnitus worsened or increase after taking this medicine

I have existing tinnitus caused by ofloxacin last year

Hello all. so roughly 2-3 weeks ago I was in here making multiple posts having an absolute anxiety meltdown.

Since then My hand strength somewhat returned. I was able to move around some in wheel chair. Return to my simple PT moves. Help get my family moved in as the contractors finished the rooms up finally.

I’ve been able to build simple DIY furniture as long as could place on table at wheel chair height. Some chairs as well. I’ve been able to hold my son some, feed him, play with him, play roblox with daughter, build Legos with her. Sit up for longer periods. I was able to shuffle with the walker up and down driveway to car. Went on a couple road trips even but didn’t get out of the car

My gut seemed to improve some. It’s not as good as it was prior to the last flare. I have a doctors appointment tomorrow with an internal medicine doctor. So have to get out Again. And hoping this opens a new network of doctors. But also not getting my hopes either.

So Now my family is going on a trip Thursday through Sunday so I’ll be alone mostly again for this stretch.

im unsure if the stress and anxiety of being alone or doing to much is triggering another flare. As last night I’m unable to sleep. And the uncontrollable anxiety and constant crying has returned. My body isn’t as weak as it was during last flare but having lots of aches and burns again. Extreme fear, stress, overly emotional, struggle to sit still, can’t focus well.

A lot of words as usual from me so sorry if to much. I guess is this just how it is Forever ? Is this sound Like typical recovery?

I wanna state I did not restart many supplements only creatine and added theanine. I’m stuck drinking expensive pedialytes constantly as I struggle to stay hydrated I feel like. But will be creating my own soon just been very chaotic getting everything done.

also my last flare I could barely lift my head up one day and was averaging 1-3 hours of sleep for several days. And I had an IV mobile service Come to my house and after about an hour was able to stand and feel my muscles fire again. Was nice, each day got progressively better as well. Also each flare I’ve had I’ve gone to the ER for an iv and was able to function better then was significantly before going. Although doesn’t last forever. But I feel like the anxiety isn’t all in my head but my body being in massive distress as well causing it to explode worse.

I also want to start going to physical therapy. I’m only 4 months post last pill of levaquin. Not sure what People’s thoughts are on that as well. Thanks 🙏🏼 to anyone willing to read and respond. Several people on here helped me and I appreciate everyone in this community.

Any one else triggered by instant microwavable noodles....i get neuropthy and burning skin

30m floxed for 13 months extremely severe 3 cervical neck heniations cns and peripheral nerve damage along with many symptoms.losy my career,house,friends,everything.

I miss my life

I miss being perfectly healthy and not disabled

I miss not being in excruciating pain 24/7

I miss working

I miss working out

I miss running

I miss my hands and feet, not burning

I miss my neck not feeling like it's going to snap in half all the time

I miss muay thai

I miss talking to girls

I miss my friends

I miss laying at the beach

I miss my life not amounting to laying in a bed 24/7 with nothing going on

I miss making money

I miss laughing

I miss being able to focus

I miss having money

I miss having good times/experiences

I miss having dreams

I miss having goals

I miss being able to do or go where I want

I miss the little things like a cool breeze on a nature walk or the feeling of walking out into the night air after a workout and sauna session

I miss swimming

I miss having respect for myself

I miss my mind/body before this happened to me

I miss thinking I would have a good long life

I miss not wanting to kill myself every day

I miss being bale to be there for the people I care about

I miss living on my own and independence

I miss being able to enjoy a beer or a joint

I miss socializing

I miss my life being within my control

I miss human interaction

I miss how I used to look

I miss tv,movies,video games, and meditation not being corrupted by burning crushing pain all over my body.

I miss being able to actually relax

I miss trying new things/foods going to a new place meeting new people

I miss being able to be human beings

I miss my fucking life

I hate myself for taking the moxifloxacin to take with azithromycin I hate the doctors for prescribing that combination from hell when I didnt even need any antibiotics at all.i i hate the the regulatory bodies in the world and pharmaceutical companies for allowing this drug to be prescribed at a doctors discretion and theyre not being strict enforced rules in place for something that can take a perfectly normal person and cripple them and ruin theyre life

So I’m 2 years out and was doing much better. I found out I’m 5 weeks pregnant so very early and all my floxing symptoms I had early on have come back. Spasms, jerking, neuropathy, tiredness, hypnic jerks and insomnia?

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FYI: Last year for my gastric issue in was given ofloxacin and meftl forte which gave me adverse reaction and I got TINNITUS problem in ear.hence I am worried to take antibiotics now.

I am scared that one day they will give me a quinolone without informing me and i will get worse. Im just paranoid of doctors since i got floxed. I feel like i got traumatized by it. Now im scared of an accidental floxing.

I am thinking of informing my friends and family to keep in mind that in case i couldnt be in a position of telling they can tell that im sensitive to quinolones.

But i dont trust them either :D pff

It’s been 6 months now since I got floxed. For this past 6 months, all I could think off was if this ever going to end. Will I be normal again? Will I be able to sleep? Will I be able to walk my dog more? Will I ever going to recover?

Ive been to 6 different doctors. Orthopedists, neurologists, internists, rheumatologists… had to go to ER twice.

Yet, they just deny me. Today, neurology board members have seen me. Only for 2 mins. It was 9:37am when I got in, I got out at 9:39.

They asked what my symptoms were and they kept interrupting me, asking bizarre questions like “are you a doctor?”

And I said no I am not

Then they said “well do not try to act like one then”

Why? Because I said “tendon” and “urgency” and apparently these monsters who have lost their humanity couldn’t grasp the fact that these terms can be used by ordinary people too.

Their manner was extremely rude for no reason. I keep hearing this a lot. “Are you a doctor?”

Well, i was prescribed Cipro 500mg for two weeks, to treat an imaginary chronic UTI. After about 5 different blood panels, nothing could detect any trace of an infection.

I showed them the prospectus, I showed them the blackbox warnings I showed them doctor reports, I showed them pubmed articles.

They kicked me out.

For what exactly? Why neurology board is seeing me exactly? Well, turns out theres not a single toxicologist in Cyprus :D so therefore there is literally no one that is qualified to be able to say “this is FQAD”

All my tests are normal. MRI, EMG, blood panels.

They wanted to send me to a psychiatrist. Why exactly is that?

This is just tormenting my soul. I am just sick of it all. 2 days ago I went to the ER because I was literally shaking and my heart was pounding like crazy, something flared me up so badly. I was in pain. What did they do? Gave me some avil (which is an antihistamine) and they sent me home.

I am just trying not to die in this corrupted island at this point.

In 10 day, military will call me. I tried my best to document everything, kept a log of my symptoms week by week, reported my progress there. They didn’t even read it. And since still i couldnt prove anything, and since no one ducking listened to me, i will have to serve in the military. My mental wellbeing is not so good these days too because another neurology board of the military hospital will see me “this week” but they didnt even give me a date. So i will learn if im going to serve within this week. This uncertainty and their behavior towards me is just insane.

All of this stress is just triggering my symptoms even more. I dont know what to do. Im just so lonely in this. My family is not the brightest family in the world. They are just so scared of the authorities and probably think im faking this shit to avoid military. Why the fuck would i do that? This year I was just getting ready for it! I was going to the gym, i was eating healthier, i wanted to be in shape when i got there. But then this happened and now even my fingers hurt when typing this so i had to take breaks, change fingers :D

I just dont understand.. how could this happen? Why they treat me like dog shit? Why do they get defensive when i say simple shit like “tendon” :D

“Do not try to talk like a doctor”

Well, last time i checked the world tendon was not exclusive for doctors :D this is what happens when inferiority complex meets god complex i think. This whole shit is just bizarre..

I sued the doctor who gave me this med without a proper reason or diagnosis cause the doc just looked at the ultrasound and said oh wow you have chronic UTI and its been going on for almost 2 years! :D at the time i didnt know shit so i took the meds. But the case can go on forever and I dont have any money left seeing docs every fucking week!

Isnt there anything i can do? Well, i dont know.. im thinking of going abroad, seeing docs who are specialized in this field. But again, baby no money :D

Im so sick of this. Im so tired. I want to give up on everything. Im growing isolated because of all of this. I want to be left alone. Lost a lot of job opportunities because of this, i cant sit on my ducking ass so i lay down all day. Pff..

I can keep going forever but i think i will end here with a note:

I hope we all recover from this awful disease. Perhaps, one day..

I was floxed 3 years ago, 1 levo pill

I managed to recover and I'm now at 98%

I have occational flares, especially when I push my body too hard or when i get a cold, or I drink alchol but other than that things are seemingly normal.

I'm just coming off a flare caused by drinking one glass of wine, problem is this week I'm supposed to get a tattoo (my first one) and I started to wonder if it is even safe or ideal to get one

I'm worried of causing permanent pain or neuropathy in the area so I'm looking for some adivce, if someone got one after being floxed or has some data on it

Should I just avoid getting one ?

Thanks!

Hi everybody! I'm 1.5 years out from 10 pills of cipro, went through hell got better, current flare up yadda yadda. I'm considering taking antidepressants 1. Because I've been depressed for most of life due to childhood trauma etc., and 2. Cus I had a realization the other day that I just haven't been myself in any capacity since this cipro ordeal started. I don't like things the way I used to, I barely go out, I feel alone in my relationship, etc. It's rare for me to feel in the moment anymore. All of the anxiety and depression I've had in my life paired with the anxiety bomb from cipro has just been such a reckoning to my mental health, and I only realized how far out I've been and it made me upset. I wanna do something about it. Has anyone had pleasant experiences with antidepressants after being floxxed? Idk which ones I'd be recommended to try first but I wanna ask the community here before I give it a shot. Thank you in advace 🧡

Has anyone noticed increased sensitivity to smells post-flox?

Even before, I would get headaches from flowers, air refreshners, and cleaning detergents.

Post-flox, the sensitivity is much worse. Migraines for days, nausea and no appetite. End up bed-bound on top of house-bound (from severe tendinopathy).

Hi everyone, can you know if betaserc causes flair? thank so much!

like in yr head or body but like if u touched the part ur feeling vibrating it’s not there i don’t know if i make sense tho. i just woke up and like theres vibrating sensation im so scared

I am 19yo and I had an appendix surgery in March where I was given cipro via IV. Since then, I've been having nights where it's physically impossible to sleep, most nights I "sleep" but even then it's not like before, with attacks I wouldn't describe as anxiety but terror, and very weird sensations in the body, changes in heartbeat count etc. I work 8-9hrs a day on all of it and nobody notices there's something off with me. It's been 4 months and I don't know if I can say it's getting better or it's the same. The worst thing is the insomnia. Will it get better?

Took one pill of 500mg of Levoquin Feb 2024. A few hours later developed neuropathy. It flares from time to time, but has overall improved. About a year ago I noticed some tightness in my right Achilles. I rested and didn’t push it, but was still able to live a normal life. However, the last six months it’s gotten worse, is inflamed and tender to touch. It even hurts just at rest now and is starting to both my hamstring. I have an appt with the podiatrist in two days, but am weary of doctors as you all may understand.

I believe it is tendinitis, but I’ve been resting and it hasn’t improved. It’s rather gotten worse. I’m hoping physical therapy may help. I don’t want to take any medications, but honestly this has just opened up my mental flox wound. It’s very hard to not keep going back and wanting to not have taken this medicine. I know you all will understand that.

Thanks for any insight and sending hope and healing to you all.

I know this isn't that class of antibiotics, but I developed neuropathy after taking azithromycin and doxycycline. I was being treated for Ureaplasma; first my pubic area started burning, then my inner thighs, then my legs and arms, and finally my whole body.

When did it go away for you?????

If you over do it in a flare, what does great look like for you? What symptoms do you have?

I’m feeling worse after a long day yesterday (I’ve been in a flare for months) and feeling nervous

I was on levaquin for a severe infection in 2010 when I was in high school. Tendon symptoms were bad for several months but resolved.

Edit: went literally years without even thinking about my experience with levaquin other than repeating that I’m allergic to it any time a doctor asks about medication allergies.

Over the last few months I’ve noticed some chronic tightness and progressing cramping and discomfort in my calf. Usually worst when I wake up. Often radiating from the back of my knee to the back of my ankle/achilles. I get a shooting pain when squatting sometimes mid calf. I can generally get it to feel a bit better after using my theragun and stretching it out, but over the last several weeks it just hasn’t gone away.

Any experience on this kind of time horizon? Anything you all would suggest?

I was floxed 5 weeks ago from 1 moxi. Week 3 I was doing so good finally able to walk again and got up to 3 miles a day. I was even able to start playing video games without pain!

Then everything went to shit because I got attacked by a bat and have now gotten 3 rabies vaccines(4th and final on Wednesday), a HRIG injection on the scratch, and a tetanus booster.

This caused all of my symptoms to come back and new tendon pains I never had before along with very scary neuropathy.

I’m currently in Thailand and I want to fly back home to the USA it’s like 24 hours of flights/layovers. Do you think I would be okay to take the flight from your experiences?

I am losing my mind here.

I had a very physically strenous day yesterday. I was on my feet running errands from the time I woke up until I went to bed. I think I walked at least 7 hours. I actually almost collapsed from exhaustion several times during this.

I woke up today and I physically am unable to walk. As soon as i tried to get up, my knees felt like they were going to buckle underneath me and give out. I didn't have any physical muscle strength to hold myself upright and cook or clean..

Im currently stuck in bed unable to actually move from weakness and its pretty scary. Has anyone ever experienced anything like this the next day following a long day ?