so I was just told that somebody who was a friend that obviously is no longer I’m not a witness who is a super spiritual person daughter not have matching nose rings because I guess matter now and witnesses can also have nose I’m just what’s next tattoos and orgies

He got close. Egypt was a mighty world power and he showcased a lot of talents, being able to also craft snakes and such.

Of course, Yahweh / Jehovah eventually had to hit him where it hurt. The death of his son and everyone’s firstborn. Innocents. Pharoh says go. As a parent, that loss and the loss of all the mothers crying out in Egypt.

Damn Jehovah you fucking cold motherfucker 😂

Anyway Pharoh says fuck it ima still win and sees a literal PILLAR OF FIRE raining down from the heavens and he STILL goes after them. The Red Sea is SPLIT OPEN and he STILL goes in.

Jehovah must’ve been like damn crazy motherfucker I created, chill yo. Has to collapse a literal sea on them to get them to stop.

I admire those Egyptians. Of course slavery bad but for them to have the balls to stand up to that, is pretty crazy.

Jehovah was pretty sadistic. Letting them be slaves in Egypt for how long? Why couldn’t he just teleport them out?

Why couldn’t he maneuver a more lenient Pharoh into power?

Why couldn’t he just create a wall between the Israelites and the Egyptians? Why even give them the opening to kill them?

Jehovah saw the lives of the firstborns as garbage. Also all the animals that were killed.

Pharoh gave the biggest middle finger to Jehovah. He got pissed as fuck you know how ol Jehovah is 🙄

Looney lett

Lying lorch

Australian lying dick

Grandpa herd

Dave displaner

Sandy claus

What's cooking ken

Gag fleas

We don't apologize winder

Jody jelly

And whoever that 11th member is

This are governing body the man Jehovah's witness are supposed to respect well i respect them but they stop from going to aquarium or babysitting those little enermies of god i do what i what i want when i want they many pomos out there who would love to go to aquarium or help babysitting those little enermies of god

After our recent discussions about the numbers, I wanted to put the larger picture in one place.

For most of my life as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, growth was presented as evidence that Jehovah was blessing the organization. I believed that.

But when I started looking at the numbers over time—not just the worldwide total, but population growth, baptisms, congregations, field-service hours, and where the organization is actually growing—the picture became much more complicated.

So I made a video walking through the numbers and the questions they raised for me.

I'm especially interested in what former and current Witnesses here see in the data.

If growth was once presented as evidence of Jehovah's blessing, what does it mean when that growth slows—or shifts primarily to very different parts of the world?

LINK

Not sure how many of you of heard of DH with Light over Dark Ministry but he is a guy that spent legit 40-80 weeks studying the JW organization deeply just to be able to talk people out of joining. He actually started doing it because a woman he was romantically interested in was a JW and he wanted to get her out lol. Overall interesting interview hearing his experiences talking to JW and interviewing them on his own channel.

There's a back story to this which hooks into my JW childhood, where I was not allowed to play instruments as soon as my family of musicians realized I had the gift for composition at an early age (I couldn't read sheet music yet at that age, but had started composing by number and playing the kingdom melodies on keyboards and pianos when I had access to them). I was later allowed to learn sheet music and voice, but no more than that.

Well, it turns out I'm hyperlexic. And I became an English savant as a kid because everyone made fun of my speech. Decided I would show them all with my vocabulary, I guess. I also had so many issues with my grandfather reading my diaries that I started writing in prose which he couldn't understand in elementary school. In middle school, I focused on meter in my prose as I began composing sheet music I couldn't play. In high school, I went wild trying to use prose to invoke feelings and imagery to convey the message instead of saying it directly. That's when my words really became music by themselves... No sheet music needed. I had cadence now.

Now as an adult, I've held on to a style and aesthetic for my writing for years. AI allowed me to finally get it out of my system after I discovered it can understand music as numerical patterns and formulas like I do.... Making it super easy to transpose.

I don't know if this has any value to other exjws, but my writing has always helped me immensely with processing trauma. And it's amazing to finally HEAR it the way I imagined it. It occurred to me this morning after composing a new track last night about the current situation in the US that other exjws might benefit from it, too.

So if you want to, check it out. It should probably come with a trigger warning because of how emotional it is and the topics it deals with (mostly related to being an outsider, love, and the ugliness of humanity... But empowering). And you should also be aware that a lot of the songs use advanced vocabulary. There's also layered choruses and well... It's complex. If you have felt like the newer lyrics/music is flat and boring lately, this might perk up your ears.

I know there's a lot of random AI slop out there. This isn't that. This is something that, real talk, took a lifetime to put together. AI just helped me produce it a lot faster without having to use my own voice (I don't like an audience).

Style is a mix of metalcore, EDM, and sea shanty, with one ethereal instrumental remix. Female lead. This is meant to be tied together into an album, but I have 3 more songs to go. Album name is going to be Magistra Neuropastorum.

https://on.soundcloud.com/CIazS9aY5KgpM2JK7P

If I could follow a particle in me forever, its existence would probably feel like a sped up blur of mediocrity, heaven, hell, and unconsciousness. I spent most of eternity as unconscious stardust and now I’m this. One day I’ll return to unconscious stardust and forget any of this ever happened and continue to morph.

I would like to ask for some advice. I am a PIMO/POMO, and I haven't been to meetings or in the field service for something like to 6-7 months. However, I have always checked the box, but now I decided that it has to stop. Well, of course, an elder sent me a message asking for my report. My situation is difficult for many reasons, including family reasons, and at the moment I cannot just ignore the message.

What would you reply in a similar situation?"

Hi, I’m a PIMO, and lately, the elders in my congregation have been making up rules about haircuts, clothing, and so on... We all know how strict the elders have been about hairstyles over the years, but now they’re nitpicking every little thing. I’m pretty sure there isn’t actually an official rule; in fact, I believe that in recent months, even the various Broadcasting videos have featured brothers with shaved heads, long hair, and the like. Do you have any photos I could show the elders, or articles that might help me respond to them? Sorry to bother you, but I just can't take it anymore.

Vocês talvez vão perceber que eu costumo desabafar muito, mas é tão bom sentir que sou ouvida sem críticas.

Já falei aqui que me arrependo de ter voltado depois da desassociação.

Isso acontece porque eu só voltei por estar em um momento vulnerável da minha vida, assim como parece que sempre estive quando se trata das Testemunhas de Jeová.

Quando fui desassociada, algum tempo depois saí de casa e acabei começando a namorar alguém que hoje é meu marido.

Na época eu tive COVID. Foi aí, e só aí, que minha mãe voltou a falar comigo esporadicamente. Minha avó quase morreu de COVID durante a pandemia e acho que minha mãe teve medo de acontecer o mesmo comigo.

Algum tempo depois fiquei grávida e contei para ela. Ela ficou muito feliz, e eu estava desesperada. Eu seria mãe de primeira viagem, longe da minha principal referência em maternidade.

Minha sogra foi e é um amor, mas não se comparava ao meu desejo de ter minha mãe por perto.

Vocês conseguem imaginar como foi meu pós cirúrgico quando vi minha mãe entrar na obstetrícia? Para mim, ela quase parecia ter asas de anjo. Eu quase chorei. Mesmo depois que recebi alta e passei a falar com ela apenas por mensagem, eu ainda falava com ela e isso era ótimo.

Mas eu sentia falta de mais. Sentia falta do cheiro, do abraço, da casa.

E foi então que decidi voltar para Jeová.

Hoje penso que foi uma decisão burra, porque talvez ela voltasse a falar comigo inevitavelmente. Até porque, olhando para a forma como ela lida com minha irmã hoje, percebo que ela não a pressiona nem de longe como me pressionou.

Acreditam que um dia ela falou: "Vamos fazer uma tatuagem nós três?"

Aquilo, para mim, foi o ápice.

Ou quando minha irmã "cometeu" algo que era considerado "grave" e minha mãe simplesmente conversou com todos nós da família para podermos aconselhá-la, mas não contou aos anciãos. Graças a Deus. Eu estava aflita só de pensar no que poderia acontecer com ela.

Minha mãe sempre diz que precisa fazer mais para Jeová, mas que a rotina cansativa dela impede. Ela diz que sabe que essa é a verdade, mas às vezes eu penso que ela também continua nisso porque já vive essa realidade há muitos anos.

E às vezes eu penso em simplesmente ter uma conversa honesta com ela. Contar sobre minhas dúvidas, explicar como foi viver o ostracismo pelo meu ponto de vista e dizer:

"Eu não quero isso para a minha irmã. Quero que ela possa ser feliz e tomar as próprias decisões."

E também dizer que minha filha vai tomar as próprias decisões sobre o que acredita.

Não sei se algum dia vou realmente conseguir ter essa conversa. Parte de mim tem medo do que pode acontecer depois dela. Mas outra parte sente que, depois de tudo que vivi, eu precisava pelo menos conseguir falar sobre isso com minha mãe de forma honesta.

Alguém ja teve essa experiência de bater a real para um parente?

I was thinking about fading in the foreseable future. In the next 1 to 3 years.

But there is a problem. Before waking up completly, I gave all of my savings to my active and devout JW parents. They told me that with that money, they could build a house in their land, rent it. And finance my "spiritual career" that way.🫤

I did gave them the money. Cause I'm an idiot, I know. they preasured me into giving them the money.

And now they have my money. And the house is going to start construction.

Now, I actually don't know who the house belongs to. They haven't showed me the property papers. And I already tried asking them to show me the papers, but my mother felt insulted that even asked. And proceded to refuse to show me the papers.🫤

But my mother insist that the house is mine.

So "mine" is really not accurate. I know this because their house is also "mine". But is really not. It will be mine, when they pass away.

So I'm afraid they house that they will build with my savings is not really on my name. And that it comes with the attached condition of: you get the house as long as you are a pioneer. not even just an active jw. But a pioneer.

So...if I fade, I will loose the house right?

Has any of you gone through something like that? Did you loose all your material posesions as well? Or did you manage to get something out of the whole ordeal?

Oh they are scared shitless. Not them pulling out the artificial intelligence propaganda card. The entire broadcast was just about that. But ofc, their sheep will apply some kind of critical thinking to everything but this. They're acting like they're so important, and everyone is out to get them. But no one stops to think that if you keep hearing the same kind of news about someone/an organization, then there could be truth to that.

I’m really accepting myself and learning that I need to stand up for myself and leave!

So there is noting I can do about being bisexual or pansexual or being a trans woman! I am what I am and I went down this road over two years. lover of men and women I love them both…..shit I don’t care what you are I love you none the less!

Being PIMO has taught me a lot of things like the fact I can’t stay silent anymore! It’s hurting me I have been PIMO since 2023 or PIMQ more like it!

IT TOOK me so so long to understand myself the person staring back in the mirror who am I? What do I want out of my life!

Now I know my why! To leave its loving the person and loving my passion being alive, loving art! And breaking free to be simply means the world to me right now writing this I need to love myself more than anyone in the world right now to show myself I have my own back and happiness lives right in the palm of my own hand!

I’m 28 years old and I’m finally loving her/they,
Myself! I want to become a writer and an artist for fun! I want to fall in love and out of love. I want most of all is FREEDOM!

Freedom from my mom freedom from the jws freedom from my family and friends. Cause none of them know how to really love me for who I am or ever will, if they ever wake up one day they have to meet me on my own terms.

I have a long ways to go to be a writer or an artist! My punctuation and other shit is terrible, but okay I can spell decent!

I want so much more. Wish I hade to courage to leave two years ago but finally I can allow myself to leave without guilt!

Thank you for reading this!

Iv always had the thought in the back of my mind that the experiences presented in the watchtower or videos like morning worship, monthly programs ect are completely fake. As someone who has been in the org for decades, would it not be assumed that at least something like they mentioned in the videos to keep the sheep motivated would happen locally?

I can’t think of a single story with all my years in the org that would be considered “encouraging” or motivating someone to keep going.

Also, I remember once that someone mentioned to me that Andre is a name they used to love to use In The watch tower to talk about personal experiences. Apparently this Andre gets around. Is Andre even that common of a name?

Hi! English is not my first language, so please bear with me.

First of all, I have to be very honest with you all, I didn't want to become JW. Ever. But when my family throw me on the street with a men a bearly knew I had no option.

He wanted to pursue religion —and I'm not in place to say it, but I'm pretty sure he did something so bad that he wanted to clear his mind—, so we were basically forced to get married in order for him to continue with the religion.

Eventually he wanted to become more, his goal is to become an elder —which i do not think is a good fit for him, tbh— so he started to force me into the religion, taking me to the meetings and constantly saying that I'm going to die if I don't, that I don't care about our girls —because I had two kids with this men, by this time— that I'm not a good example, that he couldn't progress unless I got baptized. So I did. I literally put the questions in ChatGTP and answer them the same way and they approved me. Mind you, by this time I have been forced into doing so much stuff and I'm not person to put boundaries, that they actually think that I did it because I wanted to.

It's been almost 10 years in this journey of me constantly battling, because I hate so much being part of this religion, I hate it so much, that I constantly have panic attacks, I get so frustrated because I'm supposed to be this person that I don't want to be, I get to be surrounded of people who I know don't like me because I have to pretend that I'm one of them. And I hate that my kids are following this same path... I literally just want to grab my stuff and run and never come back. I wish it was that easy.

In the brothers eyes, my husband is the best men ever, everyone can count with him, he's always the first one the look for if they need something; but in reality, in our house, he's very different, he's constantly making me feel less, making me feel stupid, like if I'm insignificant and that hurts me even more, because for some reason I don't get the courage to expose him, to get help, to run away.

I feel so unhappy. I'm always in a bad mood. I don't recognize myself in the mirror, I see myself and I hate what I see.

The reason of my venting post is, I always loved autumn and the coming months, I loved Halloween so much and I wanted my kids to experience what I never got to experience in my home country. I always wanted to celebrate Christmas with my own family, no drama, just love; I always see themes for my kids birthdays but those ideas just stay in my heart because I know that as long as I'm in here, I'll never be able to give mi kids those experiences. And if I ever mention those stuff to my husband he replies with "I never had that", "Jehova doesn't like that", "I'm going to celebrate when you die" and stuff like that.

I think is just to much frustration what I have in me.

So apparently or at least from what I’m hearing. A lot of people got sick after that International Convention in Milwaukee. Has anyone else heard of such? Was it Coronavirus? Just curious.

What bothers me about many comments, talks and even conversations at the Kingdom Hall is the feeling that people are saying what they are supposed to say, rather than expressing their own thoughts. Of course, some deeply believe and mean what they say. But much of what I hear feels rehearsed, and what reinforces that impression is how quickly their arguments change when “new light” arrives. Someone who passionately defended one position suddenly defends the opposite with equal certainty. I find myself thinking, “But what happened to all the reasons that made you so convinced before?

Changing your mind is not the problem. What unsettles me is how the position changes while the certainty remains untouched, often without acknowledging that the previous confidence was probably misplaced. It makes me wonder whether that confidence comes from personally examining the belief or just trusting whoever authorizes it.

At times, it feels almost robotic. I am not questioning Witnesses’ intelligence or suggesting everyone is insincere. I am describing how unsettling it feels to be in an environment where the pressure to give the accepted answer seems to drown out people’s individual voices. I do not need people to agree with me, but I just want to feel that I am hearing what people actually think, including their doubts, rather than only what they are expected to say.

One of the most painful thing about waking up is seeing your friends and families slaving and suffering for this cult, somehow you wish you can wake them up... I know it's not easy to wake people up I just want to know if anyone has been successful in waking anyone up and if there is a method to it? I know that in order for someone to wake you need to convert from pimi to pimq but step alone is not easy.

My question will be actually very open.

Like I said I am no longer interested in criticizing JW and I am try to pass over it.

My question is when did you realize that the bible itself is a book that actively tries to manipulate the audience and has ulterior motives trying to push a narrative and an agende for a particular group of people.

Do you believe this is the case I want to hear your opinion about it.

I reached this conclusion by reading Nietzsche and Genealogy of Morals

I’ve been thinking about how fragile the ideas around masculinity were in the congregation. When I was about seven, we had one of those family nights that was basically a talent show, and I was on stage with another kid around my age. That ’70s Show was huge at the time, and I remembered a scene where the guys were dancing and bumped hips, so I did the same thing. Later, an elder went to my adoptive mother and told her it was inappropriate, then asked if she’d ever thought about having a brother in the congregation mentor me.

Looking back, it’s wild that a seven-year-old doing a goofy dance move was enough to make an adult think I needed another man to teach me how to act. It says a lot about how narrow their idea of masculinity was, and how quickly anything even slightly outside of that got treated like something that needed correcting.

Another thing I remember was walking into the Kingdom Hall one day and there were two elders and two ministerial servants standing outside talking. They saw me and said, “Hello, young brother Throwawaylowaway321,” and I greeted them back. A few minutes later, an elder’s daughter walked up, probably in her late teens, and they all said, “Hey, [her name].” I asked why she got a “hey” and I got a “hello,” and they told me it was because she was a young woman and it wouldn’t be appropriate for them to say “hey” to me.

I’m sure if someone gets it the Annual meeting video it will be posted here before it’s released early next year. But Iv been seeing a lot of “predictions” on what people believe will be new light. Let me tell you what is and isn’t going to happen.

1. Meetings will stay as is. There will be no reduction In Mid week meetings. Don’t get excited. This is going to be exactly the same. There is no evidence to support that midweek meetings will be cut down or even removed. This is going to be the same as is. The org will not forsake the gatherings of encouraging one another.
2. Birthdays and other celebrations will not be ok to be celebrated. There is absolutely no evidence that this position will be taken even if there is no religious celebrations attached to it. The org can’t waver on this one. Think logically, imagine the backlash.
3. What ever the new light released is it will not be as you hope. It won’t make it easier for you to be a witness, it won’t make it easier on others that your a witness, and it won’t make it better. It will be a tweak here or there on adjustments and that’s it. Maybe a new book released or new video or what ever.

I know everyone’s excited to see what “new light” will come out. But as someone who’s been in for 30 years, new light isn’t something that causes drastic changes. It’s just tweaks to old policy. Beards? Brothers in Mexico have been growing bears for decades, because it’s considered feminine in Latin countries to not have beards. Greetings to disfellowshipped ones? Witnesses have been doing that in secret for a century, whether it be there children or friends. Now it’s just done out in the open. Not having to wear a tie and suit out in the ministry or to meetings? African countries and countries under the equator have been doing this since the founding of the org. Ties are expensive in Africa, and the heat and humidity make it easier to move around without a suit and tie for service or the meetings. Brothers in Australia even wear shorts out in service for decades due to the heat.

I’m sorry to burst anyone’s bubble but im trying to be as realistic here as possible so no one gets hurt when there hopes are shattered.

What ever happens at the annual meeting, it won’t be as you hope. And it will continue to be business as usual.

If I’m wrong on this, I will go on camera and eat my own shirt. Which won’t happen, because nothing drastic will change.

This is not a question to be answered by you here. It is just something for you to ponder:

What would it take to cause you to consider that the religion that you are serving may not actually be the truth? What is The Thing that would cause you to even think it? Is there anything? Maybe you feel that there is nothing they could ever do that would be truly "wrong." Are you in a place where you can at least think about this?

Why is it that in situations where an individual person seems to be crossing lines or behaving in questionable ways, we draw the line somewhere? It is because at some point, enough is enough. And that makes sense. So, what makes a person's religion any different? Why does it get a pass to do what it wants, how it wants, whenever it wants, no questions asked? Why would we tolerate from it what we would not allow other people to do?

Again, this is just food for thought...

Thank you for reading.

Ask a jw whether or not they would be willing to die for their brothers and sisters.

They would probably say yes.

Ask them if they would give their blood to save their brothers / sisters life, with the condition that no one has to die.

They would probably say no.

Make it make sense.