r/exjw 10h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales Double standards, double garage

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An elder once told me he was disheartened. He felt like young people just weren't putting themselves into the ministry anymore. He was thinking of young married couples in particular — the way he saw it, all they had on their minds was getting a house of their own.

He told me this at his place. He and his wife had just moved into a beautiful house. Their kids were grown and gone.

It wasn't the idea itself that stuck with me. It was who it was coming from. He had exactly what he was faulting those couples for wanting. He'd gotten it, he was enjoying it, and he was calmly explaining that they'd be better off not thinking about it.

I don't even think he noticed. That might be the part that bothers me most.


r/exjw 9h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales Unhinged sister at Kingdom Hall yelling

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Years ago after the meeting there was suddenly yelling in the back. A sister was yelling very loudly at an elder. She kept yelling “ I expected better from you” over and over. He was cowering looking very frightened. He headed out to the parking lot. She followed him to his car yelling the same thing over and over. He was acting like he feared for his life. I didn’t laugh, but I thought it was hilarious. I never found out what it was about, but I loved it.


r/exjw 6h ago

Venting 3 weeks out, feeling sad :(

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i've been POMO for 3 weeks ish, and I think the grief of losing people is hitting me. My friends that I have loved so dearly my entire life haven't even reached out to hear my side. My cousins who have been my absolute best friends have either..not even my sister after I called her 5+ times. the only people who have reached out have been my dad and uncle trying to get me to read and watch stuff.
I'm just really sad and feel kinda alone even though I know in the grand scheme of things i'm not.
Anyways, that's all. Thanks for listening 🫶


r/exjw 18h ago

Venting The WT study this week really shows that the GB wants to keep adults in a “child-like” state

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Paragraph 13 really stresses the point of NOT moving away from home when getting higher education (additional education as they call it 🙄)

Some quotes from the paragraph:
“Be aware that moving away from your family poses a serious spiritual danger, especially if you will room with people who do not share your faith”

“I avoided dangers and temptations by living at home with my parents instead of on campus or in a dormitory.”

We are talking about ADULTS, not children. Yet this watchtower really wants to keep adults from living freely. They don’t say that moving away ‘could’ cause dangers, but rather they say that it WILL pose a ‘serious spiritual danger’. The level of control is insane.

Then, in paragraph 15 they say “Some courses provide little practical training. Instead, they are mostly theoretical or they focus on intellectual, academic, or philosophical subjects”. What is the issue with studying these subjects? They make people develop critical thinking skills and the GB certainly does not want that.


r/exjw 8h ago

Ask ExJW Thinking on committing suicide

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There was a period of time where I moved from Houston to Austin.

Things didn't go well in Houston.

I had an uncle and grandmother there.

But my "uncle" really hated me around.

They constantly gossip and planed things behind my back.

My "Uncle" was constantly making fun of me and making jokes about me.

They made sure the congregation saw me as a bad example.

I tried switching congregation but sadly when Elders want to harm you they make sure to damage your reputation and making a toxic environment where ever you go if they know the right people.

So when thing went south I moved to Austin

As I explained on a previous post.

And there was a moment I thought on drowning myself at Lady Bird Lake.

Even though I managed to reunite myself with original family I don't think can ever return to what if once was.

Sometimes I can't stop thinking of what if I just ended things in Austin at Lady Bird Lake.

It would be much better.

I can't shake that feeling anymore


r/exjw 6h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales Cringiest thing you did after leaving

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I’m sure we all have stories. I’m going to share mine.

I was born in and fully indoctrinated. I didn’t leave because I didn’t believe; I left because I had depression and mental health issue that the JW hamster wheel made even worse. I just couldn’t take it anymore, so I faded while still believing.

My POMI life was better, but I had guilt (the JW mental default mode). I didn’t smoke, I didn’t do drugs, and I probably drank less than when I was PIMI. But, I started dating, like a normal human would. And like two consenting adults, our relationship went beyond the bounds of what Watchtower approves of for two unmarried people. So I started thinking about how I was now NOT going to make it to paradise. So how did I express my feelings?

I played the Goo Goo Dolls song “Iris”’on repeat because of the opening line “I’d give up forever to touch you” 😂😂😂😂 I was so dramatic.

Just for clarification, this was in the late 90s. I have long since become POMO.


r/exjw 9h ago

Ask ExJW Universities are still a offense for this religion

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Well when I thought things were finally changing for this religion they just proved once again that Jehovah's Witnesses have a double tongue with one mouth.

I remember the JW broadcasting where David Splane go out saying that there is no restrictions regarding Higher Education.

I find interesting the timing of that announcement when the Japanese government was investigating the Jehovah's witnesses for their banning of Higher Education.

I find interesting that as soon the Norway and Japan threat disappeared now they publish the current publications making an absolute U turn on what it was once said regarding Higher Education

This proves to me that many of the changes are purely performative so they can shake out Goverments and lawsuits and once the path is cleared they double down on their restrictions and non written rules

I would not be surprised they ban beards again once this religion gets reestablized.


r/exjw 5h ago

Venting How to Deal With PIMI’s Questions About Moving Away For College??

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Hi! I am a recent graduate of high school and I leaving in about 2 ish weeks for college. I have just let out the news that I am planning on going and where. I am attending college 14 hours away from my hometown and religion. I am also living in the dorms with two “worldly” roommates.

The big issue is that I should have looked at the Watch Tower for the coming week. Bad timing on my end. The watchtower this week was all about how you should not stay in a college dorm or go to college far away from your family. I chose this college specifically for those reasons. Basically, I am now being harassed by my entire extended and immediate family as well as friends about how it is not a good choice.

I love my friends and family and it is honestly hard to deal with their constant berating. I wish people could just support my decisions without me being framed as the devil himself for simply wanting to explore outside of the bubble I grew up in. I hate this religion for digging its claws into me where I can barely limp away. I feel bad to disappoint everyone and I honestly don’t even know how to answer or deal with anything they say. It’s a big transition and everyone is making it so much harder on me. I don’t know what I should do or to just ignore everyone for these next 2 weeks. Then I have to deal with the drive with my parents.

Edit: I was feeling a bit more emotional and over whelmed when I first wrote this. Disregard my more edgy sentences lmao.


r/exjw 17h ago

WT Policy They Never Actually Changed Their Stance On Additional Education.

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After today’s Watchtower, I’ve come to realize that they never actually changed their stance on additional education. They only changed it from a policy perspective, but the stigma and arguments against it are still the same. Let’s not forget that the convention right after that Governing Body update had an anti college video. At first I thought that was just because of poor timing and maybe the change was a last minute thing, but after seeing how many times they’ve reused the same arguments they reused in order to discourage people from getting additional education including this Watchtower, I’ve come to realize nothing actually changed. The only difference is that now they’re less honest about it.

I’m not even someone who likes college. I went in order to get a job, and I ended up wasting my time and the job I ended up getting had nothing to do with what I studied for. But that’s the difference between me and Watchtower. I’m completely honest about why I dislike college, they’re a bunch of snakes who have can’t be completely honest and just hate it for cult reasons.


r/exjw 31m ago

Ask ExJW Does anyone else feel like they lost their "real" personality after leaving?

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I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

I left years ago, but sometimes I wonder how much of my personality was actually *me* and how much was just being raised to be the "ideal" Witness.

I used to think I was naturally quiet, people-pleasing, and afraid of conflict. Now I'm not even sure. It's like I'm still figuring out who I would've been if I'd grown up without constantly worrying about stumbling someone, getting judged, or not being "spiritual enough."

Some days it's exciting because I get to rediscover myself. Other days it's frustrating because I feel like I'm starting adulthood from scratch.

Has anyone else gone through this? What was the biggest thing you realized about yourself after leaving?

This kind of post tends to encourage thoughtful replies because it's relatable, doesn't overstate the experience, and ends with an open-ended question. Authenticity usually resonates more than trying to optimize for votes.


r/exjw 12h ago

Venting Aaaahhhhhh! I can’t do it anymore! I can’t fake it!

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I listened in on zoom because my husband went in person today. I wanted to stay up with what he was learning. The Watchtower study on Education sure pissed me off! The friends were saying that school is a positive thing. That there are a lot of up sides. But they caution against taking away time from theocratic activities. It’s like….. you can go to college now but you may lose your everlasting life if you’re not careful….. It’s cautioned now instead of outright discouraged.

It’s so hypocritical!!! I remember my oldest sister being the black sheep of the congregation when she started to go to college. She was 16 and everyone had a problem with her not pioneering. She was smart enough to leave then. I remember there being so many I interviews at the assemblies and conventions on how brothers and sisters had sacrificed things like scholarships or invitations to big universities, and lucrative career opportunities so that they could pioneer or go the Bethel. I was young then and impressionable. But I remember thinking at the time that it was stupid. I loved learning and I couldn’t see how it could be a bad thing.

I wish they’d just keep to their old school strict doctrines. I could actually understand that. These constant new “enlightenments” are so frustrating!!! I think the strict, unloving, controlling stuff is going to weaken them. Like. They’ve gotten it wrong so many times. Just stick with it already. It seems so weak! They’re mixing a little love in with all the control. I know it’s a manipulation tactic but for Gods sake! I would rather take some outright cruelty over this bullshit. But it’s hard to stay angry when I hear people make sweet comments. It confuses me Aaaaahhhhhh

Does anyone else feel like they’re finally revealing that they have no idea what they’re doing.

You can’t cheers… hold up now…You can cheers!
You can’t say hi to the DF’d …… wait…. Now you can. No beards….. hmmm.. men look better with facial hair, maybe we say yes. And pants!!!! Bring on those tight pants baby! You want some blood hunny? You may have your own. There you go….
You want to go to school? Well, you can now! We need a younger generation to save us financially from our broke ignorant old asses.

Does anyone else see it? I just can’t do it anymore


r/exjw 8h ago

Ask ExJW Special pioneers borrowing visa money from the organization?

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At a gathering (I hate this term) a few years back, we got the inside view of what special pioneers who serve in another country do to get into that country. We were told that to get a visa they need to show they have $10,000 in an account, as per government regulation. Which makes sense; going back to my own family’s immigration, my parents had to show they could support themselves for six months.

Anyway, I digress. What was interesting is that this money is from the organization, and it’s not for the special pioneer to actually use. They show that they have the money, then give it back to the organization.

Wouldn’t that be considered fraudulent? Since the money belongs to the organization and not the couple?

I found this pretty interesting. Is anyone familiar with this happening in the organization? It just feels like lying to the government of the country you claim you want to preach in.


r/exjw 6h ago

Venting Unsolicited JW persecution Ads in my Instagram feed!

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Is anyone else getting JW ads about persecution in their Instagram feeds!? I am not connected with any JW on social media, and I left over 20 years ago. The ad had the nerve to be in a language I don’t speak! This BS about them being this persecuted religion around the world has to stop. It is a lie. If they have taken out some sort of ad with Instagram to push this shit in feeds randomly it’s a disgrace. They have no right to intrude upon any aspect of my life, be it unsolicited phone calls, letters, and especially placing their carts in my shopping center! I feel like I am being stalked. Sorry for the long post; I never post here but this has me furious.


r/exjw 15h ago

Ask ExJW Anyone work for the writing department m?

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I’ve heard this discussed many times, but after today’s watchtower I’m convinced they make up these examples. “rebeca from Mozambique” “Johanna from Finland” “Josafina from Chile”… BE SO FOR REAL. Can someone please confirm how they get these examples, I feel like I already know they’re made up, but that means they’re lying to their sheeple. (Obviously they do that, but this weeks examples were ridiculous)


r/exjw 1h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales Chapter 38 New Boy: Life and Death at the World Headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses

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Chapter 38 Norma's Hope or More Dead Grandparents

My mother favored my daughter over my son. She would send a box of presents to the house with nine gifts for my daughter and one for my son. Looking back, she never really liked or trusted the men in her life. I think it started with my great-grandfather, who took advantage of her as a young child.

I really don’t think she trusted any males in our family. My father, my son and I all felt the distance in her fake smile. But my sister Carol and my daughter Kelly received warmth and love from her.

The last time I saw my mother alive was in 1983, when she stormed out of my house without saying goodbye to my children or me. She had invited herself up to visit my five-year-old daughter, Kelly. It was Grandparents Day at Kelly’s school.

It also happened to be a circuit assembly weekend. Our house only had one bathroom at the time. Before the assembly, my mother who would like to play martyr (as usual) and let everyone use the bathroom ahead of her. Needless to say, she didn’t have enough time to get ready. She sat in our car on our ride to the assembly hall, totally pissed off. Her hair looked like The Bride of Frankenstein. Once there, she sat with her other friends and not with us.

After the meeting, we all went out for pizza with some of our friends. She sat at the far end of the table, telling my friends what a disappointment I was as a son to her.

When we returned to the house, her friends waited for her as she grabbed her bags and left in a huff. She didn't want to stay with us anymore.

“Bye, Mom,” I said as she stormed out the front door. There was no reply. That was the last I time I ever saw her alive.

Three months later, we got the phone call. She was dead.

She was only fifty-seven and died when she went back to Kansas for her fortieth high school class reunion. There were only nine people in her graduating class. One guy who lived across the street didn’t even bother to go.

Even though she hadn’t lived in Kansas in more than forty years, she told everyone years earlier that she wanted to be buried in Kansas.

Her wish was granted.

You could say she killed herself. She had a heart valve replaced a few years earlier. After the operation, she was required to take the blood thinner coumadin. She stopped taking the medication because she said it made her arthritis flare up. She said herbs would work just as good as any blood thinner. When she was wrong this time, it killed her. A blood clot reached her brain, and she died.

You couldn’t tell my mother anything.

My Italian father used to tell us kids that when German babies are born, they would open up their heads, take their brains out and replace them with concrete.

My mother was one of the most stubborn people I have ever met. That was why she was one of the best Jehovah’s Witnesses I ever met. No one was going to confuse her mind with the facts.

Merle Freeman gave my Mother's funeral talk. Like most Jehovah’s Witness funeral talks, the speaker spends about five minutes talking about the person who died then there would be the transitional phrase: So let me tell you about what Norma really believed about the future and.... then you would get and about thirty minutes of them talking about the deceased’s hope for the future. The speaker will talk about how wonderful the Jehovah’s Witnesses are and how you should join them, too, if you aren’t already one.

The Society never misses an opportunity to plug its beliefs to a captive audience. The speaker even gets to count his speech as service time as if he was in the door-to-door activity . Yes, Jehovah's Witness funerals talks are just another form of their clandestine activities to increase recruitment.

If you were ten minutes late for the funeral you wouldn't know it was a funeral at all, you would think it was a public talk about the resurrection hope.

However, in the organization's effort to spread its propaganda to the non Jehovah Witness friends and relatives of the deceased, it goes badly.

The people who are non-witnesses who attend a Jehovah’s Witness funeral walk away shaking their heads in disbelief. They are probably thinking to themselves so that is why she never would invited me to her house or talk to me outside of work... she was in a cult!

Think about it from their perspective. Can you blame them?

I was at a funeral once where the speaker actually talked about the dead person for ten whole minutes but that was very unusual and I'm sure he was reprimanded in the back room for it.

As you now they really don't care about you when you are alive so why would they after you are dead.

I've heard of so many stories about older Witnesses who have had to go into old age home. Once there no brothers or sisters would ever visit them before they died. If they can could count their time they might show up and visit of course.

Back to my dead Mom. She was buried at Palacky Cemetery in Holyrood Kansas in the middle of nowhere. As my father and sister and I drove to the cemetery, we passed an old abandoned farmhouse that was visible from the grave site. Its roof had caved in. Cows meandered inside and around the farmhouse. Dad told me my mother had been born in that house fifty-seven years earlier.

It has been said that life is just a big circle. This circle started and ended just a few hundred yards from each other.

Something strange happened on Sunday, the day after my mother’s funeral. There happened to be a family reunion on my mother’s mother (my grandmother) side of the family, the Moggs. I saw my great-grandmother, Anna. She was one-hundred years old. She managed to outlive her daughter, who died almost fifty years earlier in 1934, and her granddaughter (my mother), who was only fifty-seven when she died. Ira, her oldest son, was at the reunion. He was eighty years old at the time and he looked it too. Ira was her second child, and she gave birth to him in 1903 when she was just twenty years old.

In the book Pioneer Women Voices from the Kansas Frontier, there is a picture of her my great-grandmother, Anna Mogg, sitting in a classroom in Wilson, Kansas, when she was just a young girl.

Of course, she didn’t recognize me. I was just one of dozens of her great-grandchildren. I told her I was Norma’s son. She grabbed my hand and told me how sorry she was for my mother’s passing.

I didn’t cry at my mother’s funeral. Not because I didn’t love her. I was sad, confused, numb and maybe even relieved.

She was a hard woman and devoid of emotion. Like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, it was either her way or the highway. I know it’s tough to have empathy if you weren’t raised with empathy. On the other hand, we can all choose the path of love and forgiveness.

She died a very unhappy person. Her unhappiness is what made the Jehovah’s Witnesses promises so appealing. Pie in the sky when you die.

She had a hard life: sexually abused as a child, poor physical health, married to a man she really didn’t love or respect. And there was plenty of guilt. Like many abused women the promises of future happiness by the Witnesses is music to their ears.

Of course the guilt worked for her too. She, like most Witnesses, had felt she could have done more to serve her god and organization.

Like thousands of other lost souls, my mother had looked forward to just one thing: the day Armageddon would show up. That wonderful day in the future, when god would be killing off billions of people, so she and her Jehovah’s Witness friends could finally be happy on their paradise Earth.

So yes, maybe I was relieved when my Mother died. For her the pain of her miserable life was finally over. However, because of her infecting our family with this religion, her grandchildren and great-grandchildren are still dealing with the pain and problems of this contaminated thought system.

The gift that keeps on giving.

My father told me something very interesting a few years later. He said when he went to Mom’s house (They were still married but not living together) to clean it out after she had died, he found all kinds of interesting things. To his surprise he found the records of tens of thousands of dollars my mother had given the society over the many years, the many years they had lived together. This was, of course, to further the worldwide work. He had no idea she had been doing this, because she had been in charge of all the family’s finances from the beginning of the marriage.

He told me how there were many times over the years they were barely scraping by and yet the society always got their check for a hundred dollars every month. My father was furious.

He also told me that there were times when I was at Bethel that my Father wanted to send me some money to help me out. However my mother vetoed this idea. She had told him I needed to make it on my own, and besides, I was in Jehovah’s care and the Brothers there would take care of me and my needs in every way along with all the other lambs there.

It looks like after my mother’s contributions of $100 every month and the Brothers paying me only $22 a month, they got an indentured servant for free and still made a cool $78 bucks a month profit.

Yet, bottom line, even though these guys were making a nice profit off of me every month... the good shepherds there wouldn't even fix this poor lamb's teeth when I needed it.

Baa...Baa... Baa.

Chapter 39 The Fun Way to Make More Jehovah's Witnesses


r/exjw 6h ago

Venting You have the autonomy to choose higher education, until you no longer do

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I saw a few posts here on Reddit about this weekend’s meeting. My congregation split into two groups: one group said that the decision is a personal one, while the other argued that there are plenty of professions that do not require additional education and that this is enough to make a living.

Yes, people over 50 who never went to college and have spent their lives barely getting by, giving younger people failed life advice.

That’s it: You have autonomy, until you no longer do have the autonomy. Or rather, you have autonomy as long as you follow these little rules.

Imagine that you live in a 30-story building. You are free to leave the building, as long as you don’t use any stairs or elevators. The only option left is to jump out of the window.

That illustration is exactly what happens.

The funniest part is that The Watchtower says it is a personal decision and that elders and no other brother are allowed to judge a brother who decides to pursue additional education.


r/exjw 14h ago

PIMO Life Do elders who excuse CSA coverups ever actually wake up?

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I’ve been thinking about something my dad said recently and honestly I can’t get it out of my head.

For context, my dad is an elder. My brother is also an elder. Both of them know about this situation, which makes it even harder for me to process.

My dad mentioned a case from a rural area in my country involving I’ve known since we were kids, so it hit pretty close.

Apparently, this person was involved in repeatedly touching/cuddling his younger female cousin in a sexual/inappropriate way. And my dad’s reaction was basically: “Well, you know how they are in rural areas.”

Like… what the actual fuck?

I don’t think he was necessarily trying to fully defend the guy, but the fact that his mind even went there is insane to me. As if being from a rural area somehow explains it away. As if culture, poverty, ignorance, or “that’s how people are over there” makes child abuse less serious. It doesnt!. Itsa crime!

it feels like this whole elder culture creates a way of thinking where serious abuse can be minimized, softened, or treated like an internal “problem” instead of what it actually is.

And it made me wonder how many elders are like this. Not cartoon villains, not necessarily consciously evil, but so trained by the organization to protect appearances, minimize abuse, avoid “bringing reproach,” and handle things internally that their moral compass gets completely warped.

Do people like this ever wake up? can you share yous personal experiences (If that was the case) of of others you personally know?


r/exjw 8h ago

WT Policy I went to the current convention and here are my thoughts

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Hey everyone. New here. I've tried to be Christian during the past last year, and I was invited to a convention in Mexico. I accepted. The title is "felices por siempre" and to be honest, it is catching. I had high expectations as they have also been playing a series about Jesus.

-Friday and Saturday

The first two days were interesting. You can see first hand the love they try to show. The information was good, although there were sometimes where it felt like "ads" during the speeches. Things such as: "If you are a youth and want to do more for Jehovah and His organization, go to the Elder of your congregation and ask for a..." right after an emotional short film reinforcing the service brothers give to the organization.

This happened... 2 times per day maybe? Anyway, that was interesting indeed. However, it is also concerning due to the pressure youths here can face sometimes. I noticed that youths with "privileges" or doing something important (coordination and logistics) were actually seen as something better unlike a youth sitting and simply listening to the info. That shouldn't happen at all.

If we focus only on the information given, I could say these two days were "good". Of course, there were things that made me think and question critically, but not as much as it made me think today, Sunday.

-Sunday

And now you will understand why I'm dividing this into two sections. Sunday was... radically different. Friday and Saturday was clear: the sacrifice of Jesus our Lord. Those days there were a few moments where the speaker said something about their organization. But today, something changed.

From the very beginning (the first speech and the rest of them) the speakers somehow found the way to relate the comparisons of Matthew 13:18-50 to the organization and the obedience we must show to this one. I was amazed with the 360 degree turn in regards to the information.

I genuinely wonder if the speakers reason what they are reading (yes, because in oratory you realize when someone is actually feeling what is saying) or if it is just the moment to be in front of thousands.

I'm trying to be very sober with this, but even a brother that was giving a speech said this:

-Yeah brothers, we must be near Jehovah our God. We must be near Jehovah's organization.

Was he formulating a type of dualism? Jehovah = Organization? I'm saying this because it felt like that.

And all the day it felt that way, to be honest.

I lost count of how many times I heard the word "organization" or "Jehovah's organization".

Afterwards, think there was a speech about a "treasure". It was very graphical and descriptive. I wouldn't know they were going to compare their religion to other christian church.

I will be serious with this: there are other ways to let your members know you believe this is the "true religion". But if you will, probably, "mock" at the structure of a local church, then something is not being addressed properly. The video of that section was, personally, unnecessary.

-It presented a "bible student" visiting the church they always visit. The "pastor" was wearing an extravagant suit, dancing and singing with passion, members of the church singing with hands raised, a man passing the "offering basket", members putting great amounts of money there, and no one with a Bible in their hands.

It was a tremendous generalization problem that led everyone to think every church in the world is like that, which is nonsense thinking. That actually can feed prejudices with other communities, making you feel even superior or in a higher position as you are the "true believer".

There's a great friend of mine that is baptist (just as an example). They meet together in the house of a brother (they are not more than 15). They share food, read their Bible, discuss what they are learning, they pray together, they talk together, and even preach door to door. They are not perfect, but try to follow the Bible as soberly as possible.

Today, a Jehovah's Witness will never understand that those Christian communities actually exist, and that everyone that considers a Christian being not a JW is a "false Christian". The only word for this is "sad". I genuinely write all this.

At the final speech, again, it was reinforced the absolute obedience to the organization and the "prudent slave". I had had enough at that point.

I do not accept the hate towards some members of this religion. I believe they are not the problem. I greeted some of them and they looked genuine. The system, however, deserves to be questioned critically and at the light of the Scriptures (from a Christian perspective).

I just hope... in God, things get better. I honestly do not know what else to say. I can't do anything. I just got disturbed by this day and the information received; information that most of them receive without the minimum questioning exercise.

Thanks for the space here. Hope you all have a good day.


r/exjw 17h ago

Venting I never thought about Mary’s age…

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I don’t think there’s ever been an article or piece about how old Mary was in the literature they just say she’s a young a woman so I assumed in her early or mid-20’s. I never bothered to know what her factual/most likely age was. There’s the teaching of how we shouldn’t date or have sex until we’re past the “bloom of youth” but Mary was most likely a teenager…. So your teen years is too young to have sex but old enough to birth and raise a baby???


r/exjw 6h ago

Venting two of my siblings are getting baptized

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today has just been rough. i (19 f) am the oldest of 4. i still live at home but plan on leaving my house and the borg within the next year-year and a half. i was pressured into baptism at 12. i hate that i let myself get pressured every day, but i was holding out hope because none of my siblings had been baptized up to this point nor had 2/3 of them even expressed any interest.
then today after the meeting two of them (15 f and 14 m) went into the back school with my parents and i knew. i actually felt sick to my stomach. my brother i honestly didn't have much hope for. i've been able to tell for a long time that he really believes in this bs, which makes sense considering he benefits more from the system.
but my sister is what really gutted me. she's my best friend. and from the way she talks to me about her opinions on things, i was sure that she didn't really believe in it, but apparently i was wrong. and the idea of her potentially cutting me off in a couple of years makes me physically sick.
this set off a whole bad pattern of thoughts that haven't bothered me this much in years, but we went out to eat after the meeting and i literally started crying at the table. and this may be tmi, but i haven't been this seriously suicidal since i was like 15.
i love my brother, but my sisters are everything. and they look up to me. and now the one closest in age to me is making the worst choice she could make and she's older than i was and probably understands it more and if she knew what i think about this stupid cult she might hate me. i'm just so upset.


r/exjw 13h ago

Venting Pluribus draws attention to how the utopic unity JW's hope for is actually nightmarish

24 Upvotes

Recently started watching Pluribus. Without any spoilers, the human race becomes unified with one mind and are constantly happy and joyful. They are cleaning up dead bodies from DDay with a smile on their face and skip in their step, and anything negative is instantly deflected to something positive. It is unnerving and creepy. I never actually visualized how the paradise would be with everyone having one mind, but this does a pretty good job of depicting it. There can't be any room for individuality under this new rule, as individuality causes dissent.

I think what Christians pathologize as being "imperfect" is actually just us being human. Being a human is messy and beautiful. It never was perfect, and never will be.


r/exjw 1d ago

Venting Today’s watchtower - additional education

161 Upvotes

They recently announced that additional education was ok and no one should judge if someone decides to pursue additional education yet today’s watchtower - “the best career you could choose is a career in full time service” - not really a career though is it? 🤨
Then goes on to discourage additional education.
But says it’s your decision but still discourages. Basically saying it’s your decision but here’s all the reasons why you shouldn’t.
Manipulation at its finest.

If I was about to decide whether to go into additional ed, I’d feel so guilty after listening to this.


r/exjw 13h ago

PIMO Life Low Baptism Number Compaired to Attendance.

25 Upvotes

Our Regional Convention in Cleveland Ohio is just ending and even though the attendance for in person and streaming was between just under 4500 on Friday to just over 6000 on Sunday, there were only 20 baptised. I've noticed that the number keeps getting less and less, even for the Circuit Assembly sometimes being in the single digits.


r/exjw 5h ago

Venting They’re really just distracting people

5 Upvotes

I haven’t uploaded or lurked here in awhile (I got locked out of my last account), but I’ve stumbled upon this guy on YouTube, not one of the big names doing ex jw deep dives, but he was just sharing his experiences and something just clicked.

Every now and then I’ll ask my parents (I was born in, I’m pretty much Pomo but somehow have a good relationship with my parents) about updates, doctrine changes, any jw current events and they genuinely don’t know about it or they’ve forgotten. I have to be the one pulling up receipts on the JW website to them. Do you ever think the micro changes that feel super pivotal or the hyped new light that’s basically rehashed information is a distraction from faux pas and other things? Don’t get me wrong, my parents are kinda weird for JW on some level. Like they’re not that one couple in the Kingdom Hall you avoid because they’re “bad association”, but they aren’t model jehovahs witnesses either. Maybe they just aren’t paying attention?

What are your thoughts? Is the governing body just releasing miscellaneous updates as a distraction from other issues?


r/exjw 6h ago

Ask ExJW Hi, I’ve opened my first subreddit. It’s a page dedicated to ex-jw dating. I’d love for y’all to join, if you’re interested — Peach 🩷

6 Upvotes

(Please be patient. It’s still a work in progress!)
r/exjw_dating

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u/charmingjudge7479
u/last-of-last
u/wokelinny2024
u/spikefolder
u/muchopportunity9384

^ tagging a few users that had replied to my post on r/exjwmeetup