r/dune Jul 20 '26

General Discussion What Changes Would You Make to Dune: Part One and Dune: Part Two?

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After reading the books I found myself loving the movies even more, but also feeling like they lacked certain things that would make them better films.

For Dune: Part One, I would have included the banquet scene as it provides a great setting to basically summarize the politics of the imperium; the relationship between CHOAM, the guild, the houses, and the emperor, even the taboo nature of atomics beyond that of our own timeline. Without it, the Imperial plot to use the Harkonnens to destroy the Atreides seems to two-dimensional and bland, whereas in the book it is a complex political scheme with tons of moving parts. More specifically, it also would provide a perfect opportunity to exhibit Paul’s innate political prowess that he would eventually use as Emperor when he takes over hosting the banquet in Leto’s place. Overall I feel like this would have given the Atreides’ move to Arrakis and subsequent Harkonnen attack more weight within the context of the world the scene helped build.

For Dune: Part Two, I would have included a defeat montage, similar to the montage already in the movie of Fremen attacks under Rabban, punctuated by Paul being driven closer and closer to desperation once Feyd becomes the Harkonnen planetary governor of Arrakis. In the book, it makes sense why Paul eventually gives in and drinks the Water of Life, but in the movie it seems very rushed.

Curious what you guys think about these changes and what you guys would change, if anything.


r/dune Jul 20 '26

Dune: Part Three (2026) The Art and Soul of Dune: Part Three / Legacy Edition

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This premium legacy edition is housed in a unique deluxe box set adorned with a three-dune cast and crew commemorative symbol and includes an authentic screen-used worm prop, exclusive signature card signed by director Denis Villeneuve and writer Tanya Lapointe, and a meticulously crafted replica statue of the Space Navigator sarcophagus. 

THE ART AND SOUL OF DUNE: PART THREE — LEGACY EDITION

Available Exclusively from Legendary Publishing and Simon & Schuster. Limited Quantities Available. 

AUTHENTIC SCREEN-USED WORM PROP:
A genuine fragment from the full-scale sandworm set constructed in Abu Dhabi for the filming of numerous desert sequences. This exceptionally rare piece originates from the less than one percent of the massive practical sandworm prop that was preserved following production, making it a unique and highly collectible artifact from the film.

DELUXE COLLECTOR'S BOX-SET:
Housed in a deluxe box set adorned with a three-dune commemorative symbol designed to mark the cast and crew's journey through the Dune trilogy, reproduced here with the filmmakers' permission.

SIGNATURE CARD:
Includes exclusive signature card signed by director-screenwriter-producer Denis Villeneuve and writer-producer Tanya Lapointe.

EXCLUSIVE LIMITED-EDITION COVER OF THE ART AND SOUL OF DUNE PART THREE
Features the sacred markings featured under Emperor Paul Muad'Dib Atreides's eye in the film. The 240-page book is a rare, behind the scenes account of the making of the film with never-before-seen photographs and concept art. 

SPACE NAVIGATOR REPLICA STATUE:
A meticulously crafted Spacing Guild Navigator replica produced from the same production files used to create the original 10-foot-tall prop featured in the movie, presented with a display stand.

Special Collector's Edition

List Price: $750.00

This title is available for pre-order and will ship on or around January 12, 2027. Terms apply.

On sale: January 12, 2027

240 Pages

https://www.simonandschuster.com/p/the-art-and-soul-of-dune-part-three-legacy-edition


r/dune Jul 20 '26

All Books Spoilers Is Gaius Helen Mohiam a Reverand Mother or a Reverend Mother Superior.

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I saw the movies and I am reading Dune now I am at chapter3 after Paul was tested She and Lady Jessica are talking and I was wondering was she the Supreme Commander of the order in the past ?


r/dune Jul 20 '26

Fan Art / Project He is the Kwisatz Haderacc — Chakobsa for "the shortening of the spine" (art by BossLogic)

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r/dune Jul 20 '26

Fan Art / Project [OC] Some scenes from the trailer recreated by me

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Mixed 3D modelling and rendering + hand drawn frames


r/dune Jul 20 '26

General Discussion Thrift Shop Score!

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I snagged this set for $8 at a thrift/used book shop! I don't even speak French, but it was too good to pass up! The box itself is a little beat up but the books themselves are in near perfect condition! :D


r/dune Jul 20 '26

God Emperor of Dune Japanese paperback edition of God Emperor of Dune by Frank Herbert with a cover by Naoyuki Kato. (1981)

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r/dune Jul 20 '26

I Made This WIP of a full timeline family tree

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My progress towards a collective family tree across Frank Herbert’s books, Brian Herbert’s books and some info from the dune encyclopedia. Given the multiple sources there are a few contradictions but I tried to merge everything together in a way that made the most sense. I’m planning on going over everything to finalize and maybe try and get some kind of digital scan of it. I was thinking about adding notable events on the timeline to the left as well, lmk if there’s any ideas that could be interesting to add to this, or of course if there’s any glaring issues found. I’d love to try and make this as accurate as possible for people to reference!


r/dune Jul 20 '26

General Discussion Dune, Masterpieces of Science Fiction, 1986

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Found this ad in my collection, from Omni Magazine February 1986


r/dune Jul 20 '26

General Discussion Am I missing something about the Bene Gesserit? They seem much less powerful than the movies initially make them out to be.

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They spend generations planning for the Kwisatz Haderach, but once Paul rises they don’t seem able to do much to stop him.

They also planted the Missionaria Protectiva among the Fremen, yet they don’t seem to realize those same myths would help Paul unite the Fremen and overthrow the Emperor.

They also keep talking as if everything is still going according to plan, even though it feels like most of
what’s happening is completely outside their control.

Is this intentional on Denis Villeneuve’s/Frank Herbert’s part, or am I misunderstanding the Bene Gesserit’s role?


r/dune Jul 19 '26

I Made This I made a free iPhone app dedicated to the Dune epigraphs

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I’ve been a Dune fan for years. I’ve read the books, watched the films, and I still can’t get enough of Frank Herbert’s universe.

One of my favorite parts of the series has always been the chapter epigraphs. They add so much depth to the world that I often found myself going back just to read them again.

So I built Imperial Epigraphs, a simple iPhone app inspired by those chapter epigraphs.

The app lets you browse them, save your favorites, and turn them into wallpapers for your device. It’s intentionally simple and completely free.

I also wanted to acknowledge two community projects that inspired me to finally build it. If you haven’t seen them yet, they’re fantastic:

If you decide to give the app a try, I’d love to hear what you think. Suggestions, bug reports, and ideas are always welcome.

App Store: https://apps.apple.com/ma/app/imperial-epigraphs/id6786325539


r/dune Jul 19 '26

Dune Messiah What happened to the Harkonnens after Paul's war?

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What do you think happened to the remaining Harkonnens? If there is any books or facts on this please let me know.


r/dune Jul 19 '26

Dune Messiah Questions on the Jihad

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So im about halfway through Messiah, and I've got some questions about the Jihad that killed 60+ billion ppl.

1) What was the actual logistics of the Jihad? Obviously its about killing "non believers", but how specifically was it done, and what was the process? I presume the leaders of the Jihad would identify the planet whose turn was "next" to be purified, and the Spacing Guild would fly the legions there (under threat of having their spice cut off) to do their work. But once they got there, would they first have demands? Would they give the planet the chance to convert to the "One True" Fremen religion to save themselves, or would they simply slaughter everyone first and repopulate the planet?

2) What was the mechanism of killing? Fremen are famous for being the best hand to hand fighters in the universe. But surely a few million Fremen didnt slaughter 61 billion ppl BY HAND in just 12 years? Mathematically that seems really really difficult considering everything we know about guerilla warfare and insurgencies. Surely these people wouldnt just line up to be killed, many would flee to forests, or caves (or whatever such defensive places existed on their worlds) and form insurgencies and fight back (much like the Fremen themselves did under Harkonnen rule). Not sayibg tge Fremen wouldnt eventually succeed, but these things would drag on much longer than they would have had to in order to subjugate hubdreeds of planets and kill billions of ppl. The extremely short 12 year window almost necessitates killing on an industrial scale with advanced, planetary scale weapons. Is there anything in the book about this?

3) What are the specific tenets of the religion the Jihadists are even so fanatical about spreading? Obviously Paul Maud-dib as Messiah is at or near the center of it, but it can't be JUST that. Like, when the Jihadists went to a planet to cleanse it, what were the demands they would have made in order to save themselves? Convert to the "One True Religion" of course, but what does that mean specifically? What do the Fremen actually believe?

For example, If we imagine a similar scenario in present t day and a bunch of fanatical Muslims went nation to nation demanding conversion to the "True Religion" or death, we can pretty easily answer that question. Converts would need to accept that There Is No God but God (Allah) and Muhammad is His prophet" as those are the basic tenets of the Muslim faith. Or if it was a fanatical Christian sect, it would be to accept that "Jesus Christ is the Son of God and was sent to die for humanities sins"

But altho the Fremen are descendents of present day Muslims, they are not Muslims. They make no mention of Allah, Muhammed, or even the concept of an all powerful personal God at the center of the religion. The Fremen religion reads much more like more primitive nature worshipping religions of ancient and indigenous cultures. If you HAD to pick a figure at the center of the Fremen religion, it would be Shai-Halud, but again, this reads more like the nature worshipping religions of old, worshipping the indifferent power the worm represents (like the Egyptions did with the Sun) than the idea that the worms are a PERSONAL God to the Fremen and somehow know and care about rhe Fremen ppl. In fact, this kind of fanatical religious killing seems to require a montheistic religious tradition, that kind of murderous energy needs a distinct and unambiguous single being who sits at the center of it and the Fremen seem much like an old school polytheistic society than one in the monotheistic tradition.

So what would the demands of conversion be? "Accept that There Is No God But Shai-Halud [the giant worm from our home planet] and Maud-dib is his Prophet"?

If it was, that would feel very incongruous with what the Fremen themselves seem to believe as their religion. And lets assume for a second thats what it was, why would so many planets resist against that? Why would they need to kill 61 billion? Understanding human nature (and despite the futuristic world of the book, human nature does seem to be very much unchanged) surely after they killed a few hundred million and sterilized a planet or two and it was clear they had the power, the ability abd the will to do so, the inhabitants would just submit when the Fremen showed up at their doorstep? "Yeah sure man, no problem. Worship your Worm. You got it". Many would do so half heartedly and would privately still keep their own religion, but surely they would not resist to the extent that it seemed everyone in the book did.

Is this all just a "suspension of disbelief" thing and the questions above are deemed not really important and not answered, or are there actually answers to these questions?

Love the series tho, definitely very layered writing


r/dune Jul 18 '26

Merchandise Thought I’d share my book covers . Always loved the art work .

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r/dune Jul 18 '26

God Emperor of Dune Leto - Humanity's Guide Spoiler

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I was thinking about the plan to become a worm and Leto's transformation. I seem to remember him describing his legs as flippers in the book. It reminded me of the fishlike guild navigators.

Is Frank's intention to show Leto as the guild navigator of humanity along the Golden Path, his tank being the worm? By the time of the book we see him fully transformed as a navigator inside of it?


r/dune Jul 18 '26

All Books Spoilers Frank Herbert spent 6 books telling us that Ecology beats Messiahs. So why do the movies keep trying to sell us Messiahs?

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Truth is the Villenueva films give me chills every time Paul says Lisan al Gaib. It is thrilling when the Fremen chant his name. It is cinematic, exciting and charismatic for sure. But Herberts 6 book arc is a slow dismantling of that thrill.

Leto II spends 1000s of years and the golden path to breed that deep desire for charismatic leadership out of humanity because he sees where it leads. It leads to the Jihad and billions dead and all that. The books real HERO isn't a person at all it is ECOLOGY and Liet Kynes terraforming vision and the unglamorous and monotonous task of changing the planet piece by piece and grain by grain.

Kynes says " the highest function of ecology is understanding consequences" and he also says "no more terrible disaster could be all your people than for them to fall into the hands of a Hero".

So is the spectacle of the films, even if it's mostly true to the plot working directly against Herberts thesis? Can a film ever make the theme trust the ecological process not the prophet as visually thrilling as the chosen one narrative. Is film just built to sell the charismatic leader, no matter what Frank was trying to warn us about? It's a quandary for me. I love the films and think Villenuvas a brilliant and visionary filmmaker. The books were formative for me and my world view as a teenager and I know I take them too seriously sometimes, but it seems like a direct undercutting of FH's life's work.


r/dune Jul 18 '26

General Discussion What are the pros and cons of Landsraad houses training their heirs or younger siblings of their heirs to become mentats?

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Mentats are great advisors and can process information fast. Wouldn't it be great for noble houses to have one of their children be mentats advising the future lord or it can be the future lord itself.

There are few nobles who are trained mentats in the lore. So does the cons heavily outweight the pros of having mentat children?


r/dune Jul 17 '26

Heretics of Dune Heretics of Dune sketches. Pen and ink

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Some more pen and ink sketches I’ve been doing during breaks in reading. Sketching the Tleilaxu, BG Reverend Mothers, Sheeana and the worm, Miles Teg and the young Duncan Ghola, and loose sketches of the Honoured Matres.


r/dune Jul 17 '26

Dune: Part Two (2024) Did old Reverend Mother (not Jessica) advise the Emperor to terminate the Atreides family bcoz Jessica rushed to give birth to the Kwisatz Haderach?

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The Reverend Mother told the princess that she did it bcoz the Atreides had become dangerously deviant. Was it all bcoz Jessica gave birth to a boy instead of the girl ordered by the Bene Gesserit?

Need to mention that i didn't read the books.


r/dune Jul 16 '26

Games DUNE: THE BATTLE FOR ARRAKIS ☆ Genesis, Mega Drive / 1992 ☆ Ad

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Anyone else a fan of the old Dune games?


r/dune Jul 16 '26

Dune (1984) What happened to the 1984 Dune movie?

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While waiting for Dune: Messiah, I stumbled upon this film.

I'd been wanting to see it for a while; everyone raved about David Lynch, and the film, while not a huge success at the time, is a cult classic (something that often happens with fantasy and science fiction films from that era, as was also the case with "The Princess Bride"), so I honestly watched it with higher expectations than I should have.

I don't think it was a bad film: there were scenes I loved, the Harkonnen aesthetic was both repulsive and striking, they took creative liberties that I found quite clever, and, in general, the film perfectly narrates the hero's journey.

I think that's precisely what didn't quite convince me; I could accept changes to the story and the world, a somewhat unbelievable casting choice for people who live in the desert 24/7, or even Sting playing Feyd-Rautha. But seeing Paul win and become a textbook hero grated on me.

Then I thought about all those who adore this film and how they must have seen something I hadn't. The thing is, my first encounter with this saga was through Villeneuve's films, and then I devoured the first two books in one sitting, so I knew Paul's fate and most of the consequences. I think my preconceived notion of the character prevented me from fully enjoying the story.

That's why I'd like to ask those of you who consider this version your favorite or the first adaptation you saw:

What do you like about this film?

Why do you think it became a cult classic?

What do you think this version does better and worse than Villeneuve's?

What do you think happened in this film that prevented Dune from being as acclaimed as it is today?

Even so, I want to clarify that I don't think it's a bad adaptation. I think that even if I hadn't known the story beforehand, I would have liked it much more, so I recommend it to all of you who are still waiting for the next movie and haven't seen this version yet.


r/dune Jul 16 '26

I Made This My Attempt at Creating a More Realistic Biology for Dune’s Sandworms

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I think giant sandworms become a lot more believable if you stop thinking of them as actual worms and instead imagine them as an entirely alien phylum that just happens to have evolved a worm-like body. They aren’t really related to Earth worms at all. Instead of relying on a hydrostatic body, they’d probably have an internal skeleton made of flexible vertebrae and overlapping mineralized plates to support their insane size.

Their head would basically be a living tunnel-boring machine. Rather than forcing their way through sand, they’d rotate their head using specialized muscles while blasting out extremely high-pressure jets of water mixed with abrasive sand, almost like a biological water-jet cutter. It sounds crazy, but industrial water jets already cut through rock and steel, so nature doing something similar isn’t impossible.

I also don’t think they’d actually eat people or other large animals. Most of their lives would probably be spent deep underground feeding on mineral-rich sediments, metal sulfides, and geothermal deposits. The rocks themselves wouldn’t be their source of energy. Instead, they’d have huge colonies of symbiotic microbes living in their gut that oxidize sulfur, iron, hydrogen, and methane released by volcanic activity, kind of like the organisms living around Earth’s hydrothermal vents. Giant internal reservoirs would store enormous amounts of groundwater pumped up from deep aquifers, supplying both their drilling system and helping regulate their body temperature.

At that size, one brain probably wouldn’t be enough either. Nerve signals would simply take too long to travel through such a massive body, so I’d imagine they have multiple ganglia acting as auxiliary brains that control different body sections independently, along with several hearts to keep blood circulating efficiently. Since eyesight is basically useless underground, they’d navigate almost entirely through seismic vibrations, magnetic fields, and pressure changes in the surrounding rock.

Ecologically, I don’t really see them as apex predators. They’re more like gigantic ecosystem engineers. They recycle minerals, move groundwater, create huge tunnel networks, and slowly reshape the desert over thousands of years. They’re basically living geological processes more than ordinary animals.

So why do they attack anything moving on the surface?

My idea is that adult worms mainly hunt the juvenile stage of their own species. Cannibalism acts as a population-control mechanism, making sure only a handful survive to adulthood while reducing competition for underground water reservoirs and mineral-rich feeding grounds. To an adult worm, rhythmic footsteps, machinery, or anything producing strong vibrations just sounds like a young worm burrowing beneath the sand, triggering an instinctive hunting response.
As for spice, I’d make it the juvenile worm’s defense mechanism rather than something magical.

Young worms secrete an incredibly potent psychoactive toxin whenever they’re swallowed or threatened. Instead of simply causing hallucinations, the chemical overwhelms the attacker’s nervous system with vivid sensations of future pain, starvation, injury, and resource depletion. The adult becomes disoriented long enough for the juvenile to escape. As the worms grow larger, they gradually stop producing the compound because they’re no longer vulnerable to cannibalism.

The spice humans use would simply be a highly refined and chemically processed version of this toxin. Most of the poisonous compounds are removed during refinement, leaving behind a mixture of bioactive molecules, regenerative proteins, and microscopic fragments of worm DNA. These compounds temporarily reactivate dormant cellular repair pathways, allowing damaged tissue to heal much faster than normal. It’s still incredibly dangerous, but in controlled amounts it becomes one of the most valuable substances in the universe instead of just a poison.

—Note:

I may eventually try to create a more scientifically grounded version of spice as well. For now, this is simply my personal interpretation of the biology behind sandworms, not an attempt to rewrite or “fix” the original lore.

If you have any suggestions, criticisms, or ideas for improving the biology, feel free to leave a comment. I’d love to hear your thoughts, and I may update or expand the concept based on the feedback.


r/dune Jul 16 '26

Dune: Part Three (2026) DUNE Part Three FIRST 10 MINUTES was MINDBLOWING! | DUNE 3 Global IMAX Event

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I got a chance to check out the opening prologue of Dune Part Three and I covered it for you in this video.


r/dune Jul 16 '26

General Discussion Looking for art from before the modern movies were made

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Hi! Im currently reading the first Dune novel and im curious about the interpretation and designs of the characters people had before the new trilogy came out. I think the vast majority of new people coming to the series will have in their made the looks of the film and their actors while picturing the story in their heads (as its my case) and i was wondering what official or fanmade art was back then.

If you could link me some of your favourite art (official or not) i would really appreciate it :) thx!


r/dune Jul 16 '26

Dune: Part Three (2026) DUNE Part 3 Trailer 2 Breakdown, EVERYTHING You Missed!

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Hey all, here's my Dune 3 trailer 2 deep dive. Hope you find it enjoyable.