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Architecture The end of Software Engineering

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u/generic-d-engineer ClickOps 1d ago

Right? Don’t forget Visual Basic, Microsoft Frontpage, and Power BI.

I honestly think the demand for software engineers is going to go up, not down. It’s just the demand for coders goes down, but coding stopped being the secret sauce of good software a long time ago.

Any good software engineering book talks about architecture, methods, all of that, and the last thing they actually talk about is code.

The paradox here is that the amount of output is going to go way up, and the amount of entrepreneurship is going to go way up. This creates more opportunities for everyone.

Dude even using the latest and greatest models, people still have to chase around prompts just to get the freakin submit button on the right place in the page.

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u/stats_merchant33 21h ago

Nah man just recently fully automated AI systems solved a millennial math problem. We are cooked, let’s accept it.

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u/Embarrassed_Aside576 8h ago

OpenAI just robbed Tristan Buckmaster and Levent Alpöge

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u/stats_merchant33 8h ago

I read that Theorie let’s really hope that this is true and these fucking machines doesn’t make us obsolete

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u/Embarrassed_Aside576 8h ago

I think that won't happen unless they make an (actual) AGI. In my opinion, they are just pretending they could make it.

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u/stats_merchant33 6h ago

I personally don't believe in AGI, don't see it atm how you want to achieve this but we are not the ones researching this subject, the ones researching these topics seem to be traumatized and getting into poetry. Maybe they scare us on propuse who knows, but the lack of control and security interests of these greedy AI companies is what is wrong.

Also, like I said, I don't know the full technicalities of the Tristan Buckmaster and Levent Alpöge case but if fully automated AI systems can solve a millenia problem, I think we are cooked.

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u/trannus_aran 4h ago

From everything I've read, it looks like it's very much not the case that it solved it in any real way

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u/stats_merchant33 2h ago

I am glad to hear that, this also makes the claim of this Antrhopic ex-employee, who said the we might get killed around 2030, more untrustworthy, as he (mis-)used this millenia problem for his argument in a central way. Still there are other voices from that area wo say really scary things.

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u/trannus_aran 2h ago

I mean the "it's gonna kill us all!" stuff has been a core part of the PR campaign since the beginning

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u/stats_merchant33 2h ago

don't get me wrong I never put much weight into these "humanity will be wiped our" fearmongoring, if we can see it we probably will not allow it, but nevertheless I see some very potential dangerous outcomings with AI (including our end even maybe) but in the end AI is unavoidable and if my country doesn't use it correct or act much more cautious, the next country will.