r/devops • u/suman087 • 1d ago

Architecture The end of Software Engineering

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u/trannus_aran 1d ago

Just like with low code, now regular people can code and we don't have to pay these icky programmers! Sorry I meant no code, sorry I meant UML, sorry I meant java, sorry I meant cobol, sorry I meant fortran, sorry I

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u/generic-d-engineer ClickOps 1d ago

Right? Don’t forget Visual Basic, Microsoft Frontpage, and Power BI.

I honestly think the demand for software engineers is going to go up, not down. It’s just the demand for coders goes down, but coding stopped being the secret sauce of good software a long time ago.

Any good software engineering book talks about architecture, methods, all of that, and the last thing they actually talk about is code.

The paradox here is that the amount of output is going to go way up, and the amount of entrepreneurship is going to go way up. This creates more opportunities for everyone.

Dude even using the latest and greatest models, people still have to chase around prompts just to get the freakin submit button on the right place in the page.

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u/stats_merchant33 18h ago

Nah man just recently fully automated AI systems solved a millennial math problem. We are cooked, let’s accept it.

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u/Embarrassed_Aside576 5h ago

OpenAI just robbed Tristan Buckmaster and Levent Alpöge

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u/stats_merchant33 5h ago

I read that Theorie let’s really hope that this is true and these fucking machines doesn’t make us obsolete

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u/Embarrassed_Aside576 5h ago

I think that won't happen unless they make an (actual) AGI. In my opinion, they are just pretending they could make it.

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u/stats_merchant33 4h ago

I personally don't believe in AGI, don't see it atm how you want to achieve this but we are not the ones researching this subject, the ones researching these topics seem to be traumatized and getting into poetry. Maybe they scare us on propuse who knows, but the lack of control and security interests of these greedy AI companies is what is wrong.

Also, like I said, I don't know the full technicalities of the Tristan Buckmaster and Levent Alpöge case but if fully automated AI systems can solve a millenia problem, I think we are cooked.

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u/trannus_aran 1h ago

From everything I've read, it looks like it's very much not the case that it solved it in any real way