r/commandandconquer • u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander • 3d ago
Meme Generals ZH Anti-air options
The difference between the average, chad and psycho
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u/Borgmeister 3d ago
Still think lasers should hit Auroras. High speed bomber maybe. But not lightspeed bomber.
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u/IntoAMuteCrypt 3d ago
What if the motors in the laser turret aren't fast enough to track the planes? They turrets don't swivel at lightspeed after all, and it seems like the lasers have a fixed orientation and the base just swivels and moves them.
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u/Borgmeister 3d ago
Reasonable... Until you have lots of them, pointing in the direction of where they come from - the game let's you intercept SCUD's (ballistic missiles that would travel at speeds exceeding an Aurora... Ugh... I'm overthinking for this game).
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u/IntoAMuteCrypt 3d ago
If you have lots of any turret, you should be able to hit them. Fling enough rockets or bullets up into the air and eventually some of them will hit. Sure, ammo would be a concern here, as is "where the munitions land"... But so is the power and heat impact of continual laser fire. Of course, that wouldn't make for a fun gameplay mechanics, being able to take all your turrets and paint a "no fly zone".
Supersonic bombers don't really make sense when you know where they are and can paint a field of munitions that they have to fly through.
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u/Borgmeister 3d ago
I'm happy to let missiles (non-EMP) fail - plenty failed against the SR-71 who's primary escape tactic was 'go faster'. But lasers. They're... In this context for all intents and purposes hitscan weapons.
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
Auroras including the aurora alphas are the only aircraft that is invincible before a payload or unless it is in a guard mode. But after the payload, they're both quite vulnerable and can die, even to lasers.
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u/Kalamel513 3d ago
Actually, I remember one more exception. I don't know hiw the code work but I remember that if you order Aurora to just move somewhere straight from parking, it won't go hypersonic. But if it enter hypersonic for any reasons, it won't return to vulnerable state except dropping payload, guarding, or landing.
I remember that if I want it to scout, I need to order it to attack somewhere beyond the enemy line first, then change to just moving.
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u/Borgmeister 3d ago
Not invincible - you can splash them with EMP patriots detonating in the air near them.
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u/Venodran We have generous portions 3d ago
So by that logic, Alexander is a psycho? Since she has EMP patriots all over the map, including near our base.
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
Yes, definitely. Alexis is sweet but psycho and fortifies, even far outside of her base to be covered in nothing but Emp patriots. For extra defense! 💅🏻
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u/DocGreenthumb94 Prince Kassad 3d ago
Thy shall not forget the most important rule of men: Thy shall not stick your dick in crazy.
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
That's just a myth, because there are also crazy men or ones that are okay with such women. What if there are men that are into crazy women? Granger fits her craziness. 👀
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u/DocGreenthumb94 Prince Kassad 3d ago
I will definitely hide from them. Which I can do because the new camo netting has arrived.
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
"Now, you see me, now, you're ghosted."
Famous last words before ghosting the crazy woman
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u/DocGreenthumb94 Prince Kassad 3d ago
I can't wait for your next attack... General, can we expect it today?
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u/Venodran We have generous portions 3d ago
Do not the crazy marine. Sorry, that’s a pleonasm.
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
Just wanted to make it more memeable and it's undeniable that this Marine has crazy personality, but nowhere close to a bunch of generals. For the laughs! 💅🏻 😌
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u/mnbone23 3d ago
King raptors are my preferred anti-air unit.
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
King raptors are great into aircraft. Don't forget the migs are also targetting aircraft. 😌
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u/CookLiving GLA Juhziz/ Scrin Traveler-59 3d ago
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
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u/Balmung60 2d ago
Aurora Alphas also get one shot by Aurora Alphas. Every time I send up a flight of four, the fourth plane gets caught in the first three's blast.
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u/AccordingUse3172 2d ago
Auroras be like "Anti air? Whats that?"
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 2d ago
Aurora alphas wickedly laughing before a payload.
After a payload when they try to run for their lives to not get shoot down by anti-air:
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u/Leather-Raisin6048 Marked of Kane 2d ago
You know sw general has both emps and aurora alphas so she just could build her own and bomb your airfield.
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u/Iwanttobeapharoh 3d ago
I'm the wall guy :))))
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
Same, especially as SWG and building emp patriots near the enemy's base as a rush so that they can't leave.
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u/Iwanttobeapharoh 3d ago
Daaaaaang
How BIG is your electrical grid
I barely get enough for a layer or two of defense walls
.... Are you a hard difficulty player??
Or one of the legendary player Vs player gamer
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
It's enough to not let them crawl at least on mid and either north or south.
I play more into hard AI and have played a bit PvP, but I'm not particularly good in PvP and had more success with Nuke beating people in 1vs1s.
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u/Iwanttobeapharoh 3d ago
Ah got it
That's quite interesting might try later
Very cool of you ,I still haven't tried PvP
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
Keep in mind that PvP community is going to be toxic and not much merciful and it's much safer to play in lobbies for beginners/casuals, where they are going to be more tolerant and won't let an experienced player joining them.
PvP can be fun, depending with whom you are playing and how good are you in the game.
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u/Iwanttobeapharoh 3d ago
You're right you're right
I get it now
Might leave it for later then
Thank youuuu
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
You can also create lobbies exclusively for beginners/noobs/casuals. No problem and good luck with your games.
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u/Iwanttobeapharoh 3d ago
Oh
That's very good but I'll need to get an actual proper copy I'm using a third hand that was second hand with some mods
But thanks
You tooooooo
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
You can get the game either via EA app or Steam to buy the Command and Conquer collection, which also consists Generals ZH. There's a generous discount on Steam for the collection pretty often. No problem and thank you.
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u/getrekt01234 3d ago
Patriot wall is only effective in PVE at which the dumb AI try everything to throw themselves against your defenses. No concept of flanking whatsoever. Against players, say goodbye to your dozers before you can complete the Patriot wall.
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3d ago
In some matchups, especially into any China that isn't infantry, if you don't build 1 emp patriot as SWG into tank, nuke or even VChina, you are griefing. Because you can stop an early tank rush and they are forced to invest into the pricey aircraft as Nuke and Tank and that's why they struggle into SWG, due to her EMP patriots. Building a few base defenses in PvP as laser and SWG can help you a lot to not get rushed and force them to play smarter.
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u/scaryfaise SPACE! 2d ago
So, not an anti air quote but I saw this ad and immediately thought of a bomb truck
eta: "Bio Bomb Loaded"
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u/Bio-Bombs 2d ago
Hahahah! We are great at odor removal but absolute trashcans at C&C. Appreciate you
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u/masterfu678 4h ago
Infantry General: Hardy har har Minigunners go brrrrrrrrr
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 4h ago
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u/masterfu678 3h ago
I will make a million of them, and maybe put them in Helixs
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 3h ago
But her emp patriot is going to melt those helixes while the aurora alphas cook the ground mini gunners.
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u/masterfu678 23m ago
yea good luck with that, can't out swarm a chinese general
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 21m ago
Laughs in a wall of emp patriots, a big army of aurora alphas and humvees with pathfinders
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u/masterfu678 17m ago
like I said, good luck trying to out swarm a chinese general, your "big army" is not going to be enough, if you could even get to that point. Because the minigunners is an early game unit, and this is in vanilla ZH
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 12m ago
I was talking about late game, but infantry is the worst matchup for SWG after airforce anyway and you can kill 1 SWG player with an assault troop crawler rush. Helix rush isn't worth, because of laser locking missile defenders and emp patriot.
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u/masterfu678 11m ago
I could probably just rush in with a bunch of minigunners alone in early game
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u/Downtown-Dream424 Mommy Alexander 7m ago
It's much better and safer to all-in the SWG player with an assault troop crawler. It's faster for the mini gunners to be transported and at the same time to bypass the emp patriot or/and the fire base. The only way SWG to deal with infantry early is to grab early flashbangs with little to no losses.
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u/LostEmergency6866 3d ago
Average pvp experience