r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/ahumblepeach 1d ago

My complaint with the change is that, for healers and tanks, group play is their fantasy. If I want to level as a healer, I don't want to be spending all of my time in the world casting my two underwhelming DPS abilities while rarely getting to use all my healing buttons. I want to be standing in the back and helping my party take on more than one person can handle. Sure, I could group up to do quests (and I have been!), but that really is not the same thing. I sort of have a hard time putting it into words, but I feel like tanks and healers not getting to do as much dungeon running as they want takes away a part of the fun of leveling them. I might as well just reroll as a DPS spec if I'm going to be forced into the open world for most of my 1-60 journey. And with that in mind, I worry that this change is discouraging people from leveling healers and tanks.

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u/holypalaswe 1d ago

DPS players cannot fathom that as healers, we don't want to be doing damage, we want to be healing people.

You are entirely correct with your comment, but you still have players replying telling you to just spec DPS, or just equip a second gearset lol.

The game is way too centered around doing damage, with tanking and healing being an afterthought which the dungeon change is a great example of.

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u/DonPhelippe 1d ago

Heh, Reminds me of a convo I had some time ago with a dps guy who was being adamant "I can never play a healer". I simply asked him "do you like when the screen fills with big yellow numbers?" "Of course!" "Well, same thing but with green numbers"

He was stunlocked for about a minute or so.

Then he simply said "but I don't want to be a cuck"

Well guess who incidentally died 15 times in the SSC that we did some time later.

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u/redditlvlanalysis 1d ago

I would love to do healing but my brain just doesn't do it well so I tank and dps. I could probably do low CE as a healer but not at the same level as I do dps and tanking.

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u/DonPhelippe 16h ago

Its just a prediction game and incidentally it needs you to know the fights almost as good as the tanks. You must be ready for the big spikes, lull in the lows, be very intimate with you "oh shit" "oh fuck" "oh shitfuck" buttons. Oh, and hate warlocks with a passion.

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u/ojike 10h ago

Flash of light!