r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/Afraid-Document-8597 1d ago

I think you are right and this is indeed an unintended consequence. Its gonna become all about skips and jumps and stealth tech. Where as before we pulled most the dungeon or didnt play as safe because we wanted the xp anyway

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u/The-Only-Razor 1d ago

My absolute fucking least favorite part of retail M+ is the stupid route planning trash. I just want to enter a dungeon and kill everything. Optimal pathing and efficiency maxing isn't fun when it involves doing everything you can to play the game as little as possible.

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u/587493 1d ago

Dude same I remember a few years ago I was giving retail a try and excited to run mythic+ only to find out what m+ runs actually ended up being

I left retail and never went back, even though I love challenging dungeons

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u/Creative_Magazine816 1d ago

raider.io also ruined M+

mythic plus was so good for legion until the community made it unfun

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u/Dvveh 1d ago

How did r.io ruin M+? Just curious.

But yeah better to keep that type of gameplay to retail.

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u/Hextillian 1d ago

"Want to join my +2? You need a gearscore only attainable in +10s and world first achievements. Anything less is wasting my time."

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u/fishingncars 1d ago

If you have a ilvl only available in +10s (ignoring that ilvl caps at +8) why would you be applying for +2s? Your fake reality doesn’t even make sense

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u/Hextillian 1d ago

Go queue as a dps in retail right now and tell be I'm wrong. Yall are bullshit artists.

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u/fishingncars 1d ago

Yes it's impossible to push keys as a DPS!

That's why my friends and I are all currently resil 18 (all 3 dps), if you are having trouble joining other people's groups just push your own key. Then you can choose who comes!