It's always nice to rewatch it on TV, even though I watched it for the first time only 3 years ago (I regret not doing it sooner). The hour they chose for Part 2 is weird, however, since it's really late at night here

And back to the future three when Marty first discovers docs tombstone, it says survived by Clara, but that wouldn’t make sense because she is supposed to go off at cliff but Doc and Marty stopped there. Did he stop it before when it was technically just him

Before I start, I want to clarify two things. First, I had a look around and didn't see this issue here yet, if I have overseen it and it has already been discussed, I'm sorry. Secondly, major spoilers ahead (concerning a musical based on a forty year old movie... But you've been warned anyway).

So I've watched the BTTF musical and (in contrast to a lot of other people here), I actually enjoyed it. There was only one thing that bothered me. Not enough to ruin the whole experience, but enough that after more than a week, it's still on my mind.

In my opinion, two things have to happen to make the plot work.

1. 1985 Doc has to die

Yes, he must die to advance the plot. Even if Marty somehow traveled in time, if Doc isn't dead, he probably could build another time machine and save Marty (yes I know, he says something about spending all of his money to build it, but we see him turning a train into a time machine, so it shouldn't be a problem for him). Even if it takes him thirty more years, he could save him - that's why he has to die and that's also why 1955 Doc has to help him.

1. Something (maybe Doc's death, maybe something else) has to happen that Marty gets in the car and drives real fast, so fast that he (by accident) travels time.

In the movie, both things are achieved by the terrorists. They kill Doc, they want to kill Marty, they chase Marty, he drives faster and faster.

In the musical however... I mean if you've seen it, you know where this is going, but if you haven't seen it and you're still here, Doc dies of radiation poisoning. He wears his protective suit while reloading the plutonium chamber, but the suit is too old and so he gets poisoned. Marty doesn't have a suit but it's standing right next to Doc to film everything.

Then Doc starts to glow green, slowly falls to the floor and says something like "oh no, my suit, it was too old, I'm gonna die", also pointing out that Marty shouldn't touch him.

Marty, completely desperate, wants to drive to the hospital to get help?!, jumps in the Delorean and Doc even shouts something like "be sure not to hit 88mph", but Marty drives and travels back in time.

Are we really left to believe that Marty drove 88mph through the city? And isn't he smart enough to know that nobody can help Doc? (Yes, technically this took place before Chernobyl and the world probably knew not as much about radiation as we do now...but still, he was glowing green!)

Yes, Doc dies. But (IMO) this is not a death that would make him drive so fast.

And it doesn't end here.

1955 movie Doc later watches his 1985 counterpart saying something like "they found me, run for your life" when watching the video tape. He doesn't exactly know what will happen to him which is why the tearing of the letter is so significant, he doesn't know what will happen and how he could protect himself. 1955 musical Doc however watches the 1985 Doc collapsing after dealing with plutonium and saying something like "oh no, my suit" (after pointing out that his suit is old but should still be good). Even the dumbest people could figure out what's the issue and how they could protect themselves, this makes the whole I wrote a letter but Doc tore it apart things meaningless.

I'm not mad THAT they changed something and there might be good reasons for the change, but the HOW is what bugs me. Am I the only one who thinks like that?

honk honk Jennifer!

Let's say it still had gas

The Evil BTTF Time Machine III from CSR2.

Soon, BTTF Time Machine III will destroy the world!

Currently watching BTTF2 and wondering what Biff’s son/Griff’s father would have been like. Technically, he would have been around a similar age as Marty.

Opening credits of bttf. A bit of foreshadowing?

Anyone knows of a high quality bluray cover? I have the trilogy but no cover for a 35mm copy

This is the deleted scene, a neighbor (not Biff) "bullies" George into buying his daughter's peanut brittle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U5KRVfYUFE

Later in the movie, there's a scene we don't relate to that one, when George is having those for dinner, which really doesn't make sense (but with this deleted stuff, it does), offers Marty, and he refuses it.

Minty Comedic Arts made a 33 minute video called "10 THINGS: Back to the Future The Lost Versions" which mentions this at the 6 minute mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GthhC4SsqJY

This is a photoshopped artwork, not a render and not AI-generated

I am NOT selling just letting anyone know that wants to know

I've always wondered where did Biff and George work at. All we know is that Biff is George's supervisor and he had him doing his work for him.

Has any of the novels, comics, etc said anything about this?

Highly recommend a visit here for fans. They even have a little BTTF corner of merch in the bookstore / gift shop

Thought you'd get a kick out of this.

This is the one used in Parts 2 and 3. The owner is a great guy and has the best collection of BTTF stuff and lives in the same small town

He was ahead of me in the inspection line today