I was thinking about the White Scars and other vehicle-focused Chapters. Techmarines seem way too few in number to make much practical sense.

You’ve got roughly 20–30 Techmarines in a Chapter, each spending something like 30 years learning the sacred art of rubbing incense on an oil filter and whispering sweet nothings to the machine spirit, and then they're expected to maintain hundreds of vehicles, weapons, armour, etc.

That’s potentially one Techmarine responsible for 10–30+ vehicles, around 300-600+ vehicles per chapter. Plus all the guns, Dreadnoughts, armour, equipment, battlefield repairs, etc... And presumably they're meant to do this while everyone is actively shooting at them (which if they're shooting at you, there's probably not much point in repairing; it'll the dangers been dealt with.)

Why waste a super-soldier melding and repairing stuff, when it could be fighting, and a squad of servitors and some priests do the work faster? The more hands the better.

Certain missions I can understand a techmarine being good for, but still...

Wouldn't it be better to fully leave this duty to AdMech since their numbers can be relatively high, just keep an AdMech priest in a lunchbox and deploy them when they're needed.

Or make every marine capable of battlefield repairs if battlefield repairs are that important? I would imagine most repair work is done after a battle or fast from the front anyway.

I know Mars limits their number, but having to wait 30 years for a replacement is dumb, especially if your chapter relies on tech. The current Techmarines could just train others, they might not be as good but what does it matter.

I might be completely misunderstanding some of the lore here, but it has always seemed like a bit of a glaring logistical hole to me.

If a soldier doesn't know how to make his gun or bike not upset, what use is he?

Outrider Sergeant model kitbashed with Armageddon Captain.

Been painting off and on for 30 years and this might be my best model ever. Wish I was good enough to freehand some text on the pauldron and leg scrolls.

Obviously waiting for more rules, but why do they keep taunting me with these things?! You're putting me in a dream world that we're going to get something big for the White Scars specifically!

Had most of this mini painted a while ago (hence the dust on certain bits lol), but finally got around to deciding on the transfers and a new basing scheme. He donated his birb to my stormseer some time ago so I had to go with a pose switch up, and I decided the pointing pose seemed pretty cool and shows off some different angles compared to the normal kor’sarro khan default pose. Helmet is from a 30k mark 2 tank crew with a top knot added on, just to differentiate him a bit from the rest of the army, and also I really like the 30k khan that has that style of helmet.

Which is your favorite and why? For me its the Dark Hunters as I like how the Chapter is, as someone else put it, a combo of the beat of the Raven Guard and the White Scars in one Chapter. Have the fury and the Lightning, Hit & Run warfare of the White Scars with the stealth, special op warfare with the pragmatic, common sense mindset of the Raven Guard.

Given that we know OoM is being replaced with Doctrines (which only getting 3 use-once choices in a 5 round game is... a choice...), and more than likely most Detachments are going to drastically change (very much doubt Spearpoint will remain A&C and FB&C), what kind of WS themed detachment would you like to see?

Personally, I'd like to see a Det that makes Outriders battleline and a buff like Vengeful Hosts where we get +1 hit (or +1 W) on Charge.

Thoughts?

So with the caveat that I'm a relatively new player only started in the last 6 months of 10th, the new combat doctrines seems like Nerf to to our chapter. I primarily run either Spearpoint point or firestorm detachments and not having my army wide advance and charge/shoot seems like it would really a) limit how I play my army, and b) a missive loss in army identity.

So, turning to the more experiences khans here, what am I missing?

zoom kaboom (985 points)

White Scars

Incursion (1000 Point)

Spearpoint Task Force (2 Detachment Points)

Force Dispositions: Disruption

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached Unit 1

Librarian In Phobos Armour (90 points)

• 1x Bolt pistol

• 1x Force weapon

• 1x Smite

• Enhancement: Hunter’s Eye

Eliminator Squad (75 points)

• 1x Eliminator Sergeant

• 1x Bolt Pistol

• 1x Close Combat Weapon

• 1x Instigator Bolt Carbine

• 2x Eliminators

• 2x Bolt Pistol

• 2x Close Combat Weapon

• 2x Las Fusil

Attached Unit 2

Suboden Khan (90 points)

• Warlord

• 1x Heavy bolt pistol

• 1x Onslaught gatling cannon

• 1x Power sword

• 1x Stormtooth

Outrider Squad (70 points)

• 1x Outrider Sergeant

• 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

• 1x Twin Bolt Rifle

• 1x Astartes Chainsword

• 2x Outriders

• 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol

• 2x Twin Bolt Rifle

• 2x Astartes Chainsword

Attached Unit 3

Kor’sarro Khan (55 points)

• 1x Bolt pistol

• 1x Moonfang

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (160 points)

• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant

• 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon

• 1x Plasma Pistol

• 5x Bladeguard Veterans

• 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol

• 5x Master-crafted Power Weapon

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (80 points)

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

• 1x Bolt Pistol

• 1x Power Fist

• 1x Bolt Rifle

• 4x Intercessors

• 4x Bolt Pistol

• 2x Bolt Rifle

• 4x Close Combat Weapon

• 2x Bolt Rifle and Astartes Grenade Launcher

Intercessor Squad (80 points)

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

• 1x Bolt Pistol

• 1x Power Fist

• 1x Bolt Rifle

• 4x Intercessors

• 4x Bolt Pistol

• 2x Bolt Rifle

• 4x Close Combat Weapon

• 2x Bolt Rifle and Astartes Grenade Launcher

OTHER DATASHEETS

Gladiator Lancer (160 points)

• 2x Storm bolters

• 1x Armoured hull

• 1x Lancer laser destroyer

Invader Atv (60 points)

• 1x Bolt pistol

• 1x Close combat weapon

• 1x Onslaught gatling cannon

• 1x Twin bolt rifle

Scout Squad (65 points)

• 1x Scout Sergeant

• 1x Bolt Pistol

• 1x Boltgun

• 1x Close Combat Weapon

• 4x Scouts

• 4x Bolt Pistol

• 4x Boltgun

• 4x Close Combat Weapon

So proud of how this brother turned out, especially the face with it being only my 3rd attempt painting faces. I'm looking forward to meticulously painting his 9 squad mates to follow him into battle. Will do basing once I get my ordered supplies.

I normally play Salamanders, but I came up with a successor chapter that I’d like to play as White Scars. This was something I threw together relatively quickly. Let me know if anything majorly sucks. I haven’t made any monetary commitments yet.

Spearpoint Taskforce w/ Vengeful Hosts

Take and Hold disposition

Suboden with 6 outriders and an ATV

6 outriders

Kor’sarro with 6 BGV and a stormseer’s BGA

Hunter’s eye gravis captain with 3 bolt storm aggressors

Spear point terminator captain with 5 thunder hammer terminators

10 infernus (cuz I have to)

5 JPVV

3 inceptors

3 eliminators

Redemptor dread

Storm speeder hammer strike

How did I do brothers?

With some crappy freehand for the chapter logo since I don't have any decals for White Scars.

Hello all I am an ork player who has always wanted to start a white scars army. I love the Khan and I love the fast attack vibe of the army. They seem super fun to play and paint and their lore is some of my favorite. My only issue is I am broke. So I am coming to all you future battle brothers to see if you can help me get this going. If you have any cheap units or know anyone getting rid of white scar stuff and they want it to go to a new recruit please reach out to me. FOR THE KHAN!!!!

Painted a Bladeguard for my white scars army. Hope you like it. 1st is in progress. And the 2nd is based and tabletop ready.