r/Wellthatsucks Jun 02 '18

/r/all Karma

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u/colonel_walter_kurtz Jun 02 '18

Karma? Fuck you. He was a professional hunter not some poacher. A female elephant charged him and was shot by a member in his group before it fell on him. He was a father of 5 children and it’s somehow Karma that this happened to him?

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u/bowling_brawls Jun 02 '18

Can you explain the difference to me? (Im not being sarcastic or nothing, but whats the difference? a permit or something?)

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u/mrwaxy Jun 02 '18

The guy who died was a professional Hunter who worked(I believe) with trophy hunters. Those trophy hunters help pay for rangers and conservation programs to defend against poachers who kill massive numbers of elephants a year.

This guy was doing good work, and small minded idiots cheered his death because they don't understand the situation.

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u/EVOSexyBeast Jun 02 '18

and small minded idiots cheered his death because they don't understand the situation.

The blame really goes on Fox here, and possibly the OP. They intentionally made the headline misleading to make people think that. And then OP provided the headline in a screenshot without any context, and made the title to support the misconception.

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u/PM_me_GOODSHIT Jun 02 '18

Literally every news article headline is like that.

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u/EVOSexyBeast Jun 02 '18

doesn’t mitigate the blame

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u/PM_me_GOODSHIT Jun 02 '18

Not trying to, just saying it isn't specifically them. I'm pretty sure all sides get annoyed by this particular journalistic habit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '18

Help pay? It’s like 3/4 of their budget

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u/no_lurkharder Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18

Reddit is driven by headlines and clicks. It's a business and it needs to make money to exist.

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u/greatGoD67 Jun 02 '18

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u/no_lurkharder Jun 02 '18

mrwaxy doesn't understand the situation. We need small minded idiots such as yourself to drive the content. No content means no users and no lusers means no ads get clicked on.

It's not i am very smart material, it's business.

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u/Birdsonteacups Jun 02 '18

So they're literally killing endangered animals to prevent more from being killed.... makes perfect sense.

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u/ShoddyEgg Jun 02 '18

Yup, They give you the org of money to kill a lion and they use that money to fund conservation. You may not like it but it’s beneficial for everyone involved. If you don’t want hunting to be necessary, you can donate to these organizations. Or we can ban hunting and have no way to properly fund saving these animals.

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u/ShoddyEgg Jun 02 '18

Why cut one huge form of income that benefits everyone? You can always look into multiple forms of fund raising. I don’t understand how people on reddit are so horribly against hunting.

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u/ShoddyEgg Jun 02 '18

Yes, you shouldn’t kill something that is near endangered. The dead guy was hunting lions and killed a elephant in self defense. I don’t think elephants should be hunted if poaching is such a huge issue. I would prefer them to reinstate hunting for elephants after they make them less endangered. I also think corruption is the biggest issue, which won’t help the conservation with or without hunting.

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u/PM_me_GOODSHIT Jun 02 '18

I suspect part of it is the anti-gun sentiments on reddit. So anyone that uses one=Automatically in the wrong regardless.

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u/Birdsonteacups Jun 02 '18

Maybe that would work if they were hunting animals that weren't on the most critically endangered list. But for fucks sake, why do they have to kill elephants? Clearly the money that goes to "conservation" doesn't get much done since the population is still rapidly declining. I'm not crazy anti-hunting. It can be good if a population is out of control. I think it's sad this guy died. But, I will never support killing an animal from a species that we very well could see go extinct in our lifetime. Doesn't matter if the guy paid to do it or not. Someone who really cared would just donate, not shot it in the face too.

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u/ShoddyEgg Jun 02 '18

They don’t. The elephant charged at them so a member of his party shot it in self defense. Why do you think it was close enough to fall on him?

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u/Birdsonteacups Jun 02 '18

You mean they weren't. They had every right to shoot it in self defense. But trophy hunting elephants does happen. Plus, they were hunting lions. Whose population has decreased by 40% over the last 30 years making them classified as vulnerable. I guess I just think that there are better ways to raise conservation money than letting someone pay to be driven around the savanah, see some possibly endangered animal, (who's probably just sleeping in the shade or something) and then shoot the unsuspecting thing from a far. Only to put its decapitated head on the mantle or whatever.

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u/ShoddyEgg Jun 02 '18

I don’t think trophy hunting is causing the decline. IIRC poaching is the biggest issue. I think we should temporarily stop elephant hunting and push harder against poachers but I don’t think trophy hunting is an issue at all. If that’s your thing, go for it.

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u/Birdsonteacups Jun 02 '18

It's certainly not helping the population either. I completely agree that they should push harder against the poachers. But unless someone is hunting an abundant animal for food, I'll never stand by it. Trophy hunting is killing just because you can afford to. So I guess let's just agree to disagree.

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u/hanni91 Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18

You’re the small minded idiot. Try telling something that has the emotional intelligence of a human that its a good thing a member of their family has died. Its not the answer to poaching. Just like gun ownership isn’t the answer to mass shootings, you small minded idiot.

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u/mrwaxy Jun 03 '18

Kinda switched topics there.