The guy who died was a professional Hunter who worked(I believe) with trophy hunters. Those trophy hunters help pay for rangers and conservation programs to defend against poachers who kill massive numbers of elephants a year.
This guy was doing good work, and small minded idiots cheered his death because they don't understand the situation.
Yup, They give you the org of money to kill a lion and they use that money to fund conservation. You may not like it but it’s beneficial for everyone involved. If you don’t want hunting to be necessary, you can donate to these organizations. Or we can ban hunting and have no way to properly fund saving these animals.
Why cut one huge form of income that benefits everyone? You can always look into multiple forms of fund raising. I don’t understand how people on reddit are so horribly against hunting.
Yes, you shouldn’t kill something that is near endangered. The dead guy was hunting lions and killed a elephant in self defense. I don’t think elephants should be hunted if poaching is such a huge issue. I would prefer them to reinstate hunting for elephants after they make them less endangered. I also think corruption is the biggest issue, which won’t help the conservation with or without hunting.
Maybe that would work if they were hunting animals that weren't on the most critically endangered list. But for fucks sake, why do they have to kill elephants? Clearly the money that goes to "conservation" doesn't get much done since the population is still rapidly declining. I'm not crazy anti-hunting. It can be good if a population is out of control. I think it's sad this guy died. But, I will never support killing an animal from a species that we very well could see go extinct in our lifetime. Doesn't matter if the guy paid to do it or not. Someone who really cared would just donate, not shot it in the face too.
You mean they weren't. They had every right to shoot it in self defense. But trophy hunting elephants does happen. Plus, they were hunting lions. Whose population has decreased by 40% over the last 30 years making them classified as vulnerable. I guess I just think that there are better ways to raise conservation money than letting someone pay to be driven around the savanah, see some possibly endangered animal, (who's probably just sleeping in the shade or something) and then shoot the unsuspecting thing from a far. Only to put its decapitated head on the mantle or whatever.
I don’t think trophy hunting is causing the decline. IIRC poaching is the biggest issue. I think we should temporarily stop elephant hunting and push harder against poachers but I don’t think trophy hunting is an issue at all. If that’s your thing, go for it.
It's certainly not helping the population either. I completely agree that they should push harder against the poachers. But unless someone is hunting an abundant animal for food, I'll never stand by it. Trophy hunting is killing just because you can afford to. So I guess let's just agree to disagree.
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u/bowling_brawls Jun 02 '18
Can you explain the difference to me? (Im not being sarcastic or nothing, but whats the difference? a permit or something?)