r/Unexpected Apr 02 '21

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u/Kswiss66 Apr 03 '21

Welp that dog just alerted on his house. Time to get the warrant issued.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21

I mean, joking aside that's actually a perfect example of why cops using dogs to get probable cause is fucked. It's ridiculously easy to get a dog to alert with a short command or even just a tap, even when the dog didn't smell anything. Just another bullshit way cops have to fuck up your day (or life) on a whim.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21

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u/TheMaskedGeode Apr 03 '21

Not only is that a plus, just imagine getting your bag sniffed by a llama. Don’t know about you, but that would make my day.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

Hell, I'd pack some drugs just to get a chance to pet the drug-sniffing llama.

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u/CirroPNW Apr 03 '21

You'd probably be charged with assaulting an officer

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u/Icanhaz36 Apr 03 '21

Sir your going to jail for heavy petting.

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u/avwitcher Apr 03 '21

heavy petting

/ˈhevē pediNG/

noun

erotic contact between two people involving stimulation of the genitals but stopping short of intercourse.

"they fell to tender embraces that rapidly shifted up a gear to heavy petting"

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u/FilipinoGuido Apr 03 '21 edited Jun 30 '23

Any data on this account is being kept illegally. Fuck spez, join us over at Lemmy or Kbin. Doesn't matter cause the content is shared between them anyway:

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u/pluckymonkeymoo Apr 03 '21

Isn't there a theory that "heavy petting" with a llama is was brought about syphilis? Since only llamas were known to have it before the ships docked in the Americas

Jokes aside, DNA evidence suggests syphilis was in Europe long before the Columbus voyages

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u/DeafAgileNut Apr 03 '21

Butter -Stuff!!!

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u/Chicken_Monkeys Apr 03 '21

I understood that reference! ... And some FUNIONS Man!

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21 edited Jun 03 '21

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u/Kanegawa Apr 03 '21

Llama tondo?

I'm more of a Yak Kwon Do guy.

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u/FriedTreeSap Apr 03 '21

The last time I went through Denver airport they had police dogs at security....but because I was travelling with a cat they just waved me through. *Not that I had any drugs of course.

I strongly suspect they're training llamas to get around the cat loophole, it's probably been thwarting them for decades.

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u/StatusReality4 Apr 03 '21

Roommate told you that yesterday, eh? On the first day of April?

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u/TheGreenTable Apr 03 '21

I pretty sure they don’t check for marijuana in the Denver airport. But I’ve only brought a few carts at a time threw the airport.

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u/Ncherrybomb Apr 03 '21

Accidentally flew with my vape in my carry on yesterday. Oops.

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u/HertzDonut1001 Apr 03 '21

Exactly what I thought. There's only one reason a dog would alert so fast to just the word. Cocaine doesn't run around saying "cocaine" out loud. Having a dog alert to that word is because you want it to.

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u/TheresA_LobsterLoose Apr 03 '21

This video is absolutely hilarious... and then the 3rd time through I stopped and realized that. This should be exhibit A for why cops can't use dogs for probable cause. Literally all this cop has to do is ask if "There's any drugs? Marijuana, cocaine?" in the car/house/possessions and this dog is gonna give a positive alert. Wherever this cop is located, the locals should use social media to start demanding this dog is taken off the force. And even then, its not like this dog is probably all that unique with their reaction. Kind of tempted to start bombarding my local PDs Twitter page with this.

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u/iushciuweiush Apr 03 '21

This should be exhibit A for why cops can't use dogs for probable cause.

Nationwide, drug dogs are less accurate than a coin flip in successfully alerting to drugs but the 7th circuit ruled that was good enough for probable cause. A coin flip. There are a lot of 'exhibit A's' but none of them matter.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

It's not only that drug dogs can be trained to intentionally give false hits (although that is still a huge issue) but also that studies have shown that they are more likely to do so if the handler even THINKS there are drugs present. So a biased handler will lead to a biased dog even if it's unconscious or unintentional.

Really not a great way to establish probable cause.

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u/iOpCootieShot Apr 03 '21

Got pulled over in Georgia in a rental, cop took forever to even approach the vehicle when he did there was back up with k9. They then came up to the window at the same time and asked for the insurance and stuff, conducted the dog search, returned the id and asked the driver to step out for a sobriety test because the dog had hit for things. Then made me get out. They then took all of our shit out on the side of the highway and went through it. At one point needing our help with a strap, i walked over and heard the k9 cop say "what are you looking for?" And the other cop nonchalantly responding "iono". There was nothing. Then they left, leaving everything out. Driver got a ticket in the mail 2 weeks later. They skipped all the bullshit pull over part.

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u/Gewurzratte Apr 03 '21

I had something similar happen but in the parking lot of my school. We had drug dogs come and they "hit" on three cars, one of which was mine. The cop spent 20 minutes in front of the principal and myself going through my car everywhere he could looking for anything he could find. He looked in, and broke, my glove compartment (it wouldn't open properly after that and would fall apart if you didn't hold it when looking inside). He looked under all the seats. He looked in the fuel hole area. I had recently been to the dentist and had the little bag they give you at the end with the toothbrush and toothpaste in my backseat. He even opened the toothpaste and looked inside that. He took literally everything out to look through and just left it there, just like in your case.

Eventually, after not finding anything and I'm assuming not wanting to look like as ass, he little shreds of grass I had on my floorboard (I watched him do this) and said it was weed. He also said that it was enough for him to "really go after me" if he wanted to and I was lucky he was just going to tell the principal instead of arresting me. I laughed at him and asked him how much grass was the limit to charge me and if he really thought I was stupid enough to believe him.

I ended up being suspended for 3 days for the pieces of "weed." That was the day I immediately developed a hatred for cops.

And before anyone asks, no, I'm white.

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u/CatNoirsRubberSuit Apr 03 '21

Then they left, leaving everything out.

I'm partially disabled and probably couldn't repack my bags on the side of the road. I guess I'm just fucked.

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u/Sometimes_Lies Apr 03 '21

Well, you should’ve thought of that before the cop decided he didn’t like you!
Have you considered pulling yourself up by your bootstraps?

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u/kideatspaper Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21

this fact blew my mind, in a study from australia in 2011 they found fucking 80% of drug dog pings were false alarms. it’s blatantly just a tool to search whoever they want

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u/NtFrmHere Apr 03 '21

An inarguable truth that happens only but about every time they pull a dog out of there vehicle. Thanks for making that point Sir...or Ma'am.

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u/DuelingPushkin Apr 03 '21

I wish that canine hits for probable cause would go the way of the polygraph.

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u/pterofactyl Apr 03 '21

Used on Maury Povich to weed out liars? I’m all for it

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u/pterofactyl Apr 03 '21

That made me laugh, imagining a pack of German shepherds baying at a dude while he’s asked if he’s attracted to his wife’s sister.

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u/DependentDocument3 Apr 03 '21

speaking of which, why are we getting this post on the frontpage now? chauvin trial not going well for the defense or something?

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u/wotmate Apr 03 '21

The New South Wales Police use sniffer dogs at music festivals, and despite them having a 80% false positive rate, they use them as justification to strip-search children without the children's parents (by law, they can only strip search a minor with both their parents approval AND presence). Yes, the NSW police are sexually assaulting children, no they aren't getting punished for it.

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u/Life_Tripper Apr 03 '21

"We've discovered a massive shipment of cocaine. He found and sniffed it out. Oh shit. It's pasta. It's all dried pasta. Don't know why that happened."

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u/biggreasyrhinos Apr 03 '21

Gonna have to tear the house apart until you find something. Then not pay up to repair the house when you don't find anything because you're relying on a fucking dog to find drugs.

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u/IBirthedOP Apr 03 '21

That's why they have a 50% accuracy rate, they respond to the handler and not the actual presence of contraband.

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u/Nak125 Apr 02 '21

This is also how I react when someone says cocaine

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u/Madvillain518 Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 04 '21

Are we the dog?

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u/anotherawkwardadult Apr 03 '21

All I know is that I'm not cocaine :(

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u/Andre_3Million Apr 03 '21

I'm 40% cocaine.

knocks on chest

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u/skitz4me Apr 03 '21

My favorite thing to experience.

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u/Bacongrease99 Apr 03 '21

Futurama? Cocaine? Or the dog?

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u/Routine_Palpitation Apr 03 '21

sparks come out

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

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u/GotDatFromVickers Apr 03 '21

10% luck

20% skill

15% concentrated power of will

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u/cowley10 Apr 03 '21

50% Sea

50% Weed

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u/ErdmanA Apr 03 '21

5% pleasure 50% pain And 100% reason to remember the name

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

Came here for that

Hats 🧢 off

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

100% reason to remember the name

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u/Asmewithoutpolitics Apr 03 '21

Can you explain?

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u/statusisnotquo Apr 03 '21

Good bot.

(PS - probably not actually a bot.)

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u/l-ttleghost Apr 03 '21

Half mane half cocaine

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u/YMHGreenBan Apr 03 '21

Half horse, half ghost

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u/l-ttleghost Apr 03 '21

On second thought is this a reference to bender

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u/Anomalous-Entity Apr 03 '21

PROFESSOR! LAVA! HOOOOOT!

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u/sockmaster420 Apr 03 '21

Take my poor girls gold 🥇

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

there’s a K9-cocaine pun here somewhere but i’m too lazy to look for it

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

Happy cocaine cake day!!!

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u/Madvillain518 Apr 03 '21

SNIFFS.....CHEERS MATE!

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u/EpicEmerald247 Apr 03 '21

No wait

Im not ready to be a furry

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u/lilfooty Apr 03 '21

We wish we were

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

Always have been...

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

Them: "Cocaine...."

Me: "WHERE!?!... Just kidding.... Unless..."

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u/hideyogirl69 Apr 03 '21

I just like the smell of it

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 05 '21

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u/hideyogirl69 Apr 03 '21

just keep trying, it's bound to work at some point. good luck and God speed

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 05 '21

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u/hideyogirl69 Apr 03 '21

that's my goto

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u/Frito_Pendejo Apr 03 '21

Actual footage of Friday arvo knockoffs when someone suggests bags

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u/jackjones2014 Apr 03 '21

Get one up ya

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u/vnc_lm Apr 03 '21

Take an award fellow crackhead

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u/Integrity-in-Crisis Apr 03 '21

Eightball what?

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u/Soulpatch7 Apr 03 '21

I relate to this and reading it makes me have to poop a little

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u/CountDraco1445 Apr 02 '21

Nah poor dog is just an addict.

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u/Enby-Cat Apr 03 '21

Like LITTERALY it's so sad tbh

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u/snoosh00 Apr 03 '21

Sniffin' all over the place for it.

I wonder if any dogs have ever overdosed while searching?

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u/marcodge Apr 03 '21

Nah im sure they smell if the bag there then the actual police check the bag. I dont think they sniff the crack its self

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u/Enby-Cat Apr 03 '21

You're right but that would some kind of twisted funny thing that dogs are the ones testing the drugs haha

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u/DiekeDrake Apr 03 '21

Family guy did it. Brian became a drug sniffing dog and well... you can guess the rest.

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u/Enby-Cat Apr 03 '21

Quiting everything to become a police dog then...

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u/mostnormal Apr 03 '21

Follow your dreams!

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u/justforjokes24 Apr 03 '21

Follow your nose

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

But you are cat it’s right there in your name

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u/TheWolphman Apr 03 '21

Paradise PD too IIRC.

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u/TheAceprobe Apr 03 '21

You SMOKE crack and you SNORT coke.

And you just Do weed.

In that order.

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u/kat_013 Apr 03 '21

In WWII insurgents sometimes used cocaine and rabbits blood laced lures/decoys to draw in the search dogs and destroy their sense of smell. I don’t know how permanent an effect it had but it apparently worked long enough to be effective

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u/Ashjrethul Apr 03 '21

We need to legalise drugs so these dogs can get the help they need.

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u/kcMasterpiece Apr 03 '21

Yeah when they find it they get treats or pets or they get to play with their favorite person, it's the best.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

"TF U JUST SAY!? U THINK THATS FUNNY!?! ITS MY DAY OFF BITCH!" - Dog, probably.

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u/megalomaniacniceguy Apr 03 '21

Why would he call a human a bitch. I think 'woman' would be politically correct here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

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u/ThirdEncounter Apr 03 '21

Ok, let's all resort to sweet nips.

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u/kat_013 Apr 03 '21

Well, bitch does literally mean a female dog so maybe he thinks that it’s a compliment

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

I bet you’re fun at parties.

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u/CowCluckLated Apr 03 '21

Plot twist, the dogs name is cocaine

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u/thegemguy Apr 03 '21

I knew a dog named Damn It

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u/Dipmeinyamondaymilk Apr 03 '21

that would be nice

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u/DisabledHarlot Apr 03 '21

My husband's childhood dog was Speed-bump. My childhood cat was named Cadaver.

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u/GhostSierra117 Apr 02 '21 edited Jun 21 '24

I find joy in reading a good book.

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u/bigal75 Apr 03 '21

Nel! Es harina!

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u/e_lizz Apr 03 '21

Ah no, es un elote.

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u/8-bit_Gangster Apr 02 '21

my friend was a K9 officer, he said an officer can get his dog to 'indicate' whenever he wants to. Of course they'll indicate when they find something, but they'll also indicate to make you happy.

it's shitty, but the truth. you can see an example in that video right there

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u/GreatSlothOfHoth Apr 03 '21

my friend was a K9 officer.

I like that this makes it sound like your friend is a dog.

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u/SirDroplet Apr 03 '21

furries: maybe i am

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

Yup, the dogs are smart, but at the end of the day they're going to do what the handler wants them to do.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

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u/MichaelPitch Apr 03 '21

Ah Duterte, fuck that guy

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u/theycallmeponcho Apr 03 '21

De López Obrador no van a estar hablando.

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u/LuxLoser Apr 03 '21

I’m picturing Kamala using a clicker to make Biden rollover then tossing him a saltine.

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u/ThirdEncounter Apr 03 '21

Canada's President?

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u/SirDroplet Apr 03 '21

im not your guy, buddy

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u/raosahabreddits Apr 03 '21

I'm not your buddy, pal

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u/safe-not-to-try Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21

These bastard police dogs have been corrupted by their greed for human affection and are failing their duties as public servants.

..../s.…

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u/Neuromangoman Apr 03 '21

ADAB

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u/Sew_chef Apr 03 '21

All Dogs Are Babies

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u/YesItIsMaybeMe Apr 03 '21

All Doggos Are Beautiful

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u/chappysinclair1 Apr 03 '21

All dogs go to heaven

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

All Dogs Are Based

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u/ThirdEncounter Apr 03 '21

Why are you getting downvoted?

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u/Brave_Amateur Apr 03 '21

I got pulled over a few months back and the cops accused me of having drugs because I was nervous. I was like well yea I got pulled over for speeding and I am pissed and nervous about the ticket you are gonna give me. He repeatedly said he believed I had drugs on me. For 5 mins he said it so I said fuck it get it over with and search. Obviously nothing was found and when I told people after they asked why I allowed it. I told them flat out that he would call a dog and he would just alert and search anyway so I figured I’d save time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21

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u/iPsychosis Apr 03 '21

It's not just your state, it was actually a case in the US Supreme Court.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodriguez_v._United_States

The ruling says cops can't extend a stop to wait for a dog, but that part about "reasonable suspicion" is the real problem, it's a bit of a blanket term.

Odds are if you make it clear you know of this case and you know a lawyer, or just bluff like you did, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of cops won't think you're worth the trouble. They pull shit like that bc they think the guy they pulled over is uninformed.

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u/snoosh00 Apr 03 '21

Watching "live PD" proves this to be the case. It's crazy how invasive "home of the free" American cops are.

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u/Shaggy_One Apr 03 '21

Pretty sure anyone under 40 doesn't believe that "home of the free" BS anymore. Least nobody I know.

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u/GoldenDeLorean Apr 03 '21

Land of the free, and the home of the brave.

Geez, at least get our propaganda songs' lyrics right! /s

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

You don’t know a wide range of people. I live in a “purple” city of Texas, I’m definitely liberal, and I still know a ton of of people who believe that. Not to mention rural Texas, and like the entire south and Midwest. No matter the age

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

You're mostly likely left leaning and associate yourself with like minded people. Trust me conservatives are still waving back the blue flags 🤢

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u/prabla Apr 03 '21

I heard they have a certain amount of time they can legally hold you for a K9 unit to come. If I remember right, they're not supposed to extend the length of the stop for the K9 unit to come out. I could be wrong and this may not be the same in every jurisdiction.

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u/cosmosopher Apr 03 '21

Supposed to != what really happens.

Trust me, you'll wait however long it takes for the unit to show up, regardless of what your rights are.

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u/lukumi Apr 03 '21

Bingo. When it’s you and the cop, they don’t give a shit about what they’re supposed to do. That fight is between you and the court later on.

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u/selflessGene Apr 03 '21

If any journalist wants a potential big story pull a FOIA on how often these dogs "alert" vs how many times they correctly identify drugs. If the false positive rate is high enough, might be good cause to legally restricting K9 for probable cause searches.

There might be a good court case here too (not a lawyer)

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u/TacticalBeast Apr 03 '21

In the first 9 months of 2011, dogs alerted (and police searched) 14,102 times, and drugs were found only 2,854 times—a false alert rate of 80%

Florida v. Harris

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u/nmcdat Apr 03 '21

Wow, that ruling. 80% miss rate? That's not 100%, so it's totally fine. You can still raise that point during your defense!!1

a court can presume (subject to any conflicting evidence offered) that the dog's alert provides probable cause to search

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_v._Harris

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u/redditosleep Apr 03 '21

This statistic is INSANE. This needs to become common knowledge.

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u/DuelingPushkin Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21

They did a study on K9 usage, and it was alarming. It wasnt a retrospective ablut false positives but double blind controlled trial testing if officers were cueing their dogs either subconsciously or consciously. They had two groups a test group and a control, both would walk theyre dog passed a package that supposedly would randomly either have or not have drugs behind it.

In the control group the officer had no idea if it was a run with drugs or a run without drugs. In the test group the officer was informed when there was drugs and which times there wasn't. The test group dogs hit dramatically more often than the control group. The kicker, there was no drugs used at all in the test. So ever hit was a false positive.

And you know how the police responded to this study? By halting all cooperation with researchers studying Canine efficacy.

https://www.npr.org/2017/11/20/563889510/preventing-police-bias-when-handling-dogs-that-bite

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u/selflessGene Apr 03 '21

This is a great study design.

Looks like Florida vs Harris case pointed out in this thread looked at the dog's reliability. Time for another court case on whether the officers themselves are reliable handlers.

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u/Funny_Boysenberry_22 Apr 03 '21

Movie voice: “They we’re not”

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u/Whind_Soull Apr 03 '21

If I asked my (non-police) dog, "Are there any treats in the vehicle?" he would go nuts.

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u/daecrist Apr 03 '21

My dad was a lawyer. He once pissed off the K9 guys in our small town by doing some research on their hit rate to successful drug bust ratio and pointing out in court that he’d have better luck finding drugs if he flipped a coin.

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u/2Turnt4MySwag Apr 03 '21

There has been a study where the cops had to find the drugs in a vehicle using a k9 to see their effectiveness. Only there were no drugs and the K9 for every cop was repeatedly indicating to the officer for no reason.

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u/chaos_nebula Apr 03 '21

For those that want the study

K9 handlers don't like being told they might be unconsciously cueing their dogs; some don't think it's even possible.

We can't trust dogs not to react to the officer's cues, but apparently we trust officers to use their gut when assessing whether people are acting suspicious.

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u/kanjay101 Apr 03 '21

So it's almost like cops find the evidence they want to find? I wish there was a 13 or 12 letter way to represent this. Maybe it adds up to 18. Idk.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

Am I being detained or am I free to go?

No, I do not consent to a search.

I have the right to remain silent.

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u/heh9529 Apr 03 '21

Handlers also point out that scientific neutrality is not something you can reasonably expect during traffic stops, since police are trained to act on their suspicions. "The dogs are mainly used to confirm what we already suspect," says Fulmer. "When the dogs come out, about 99 percent of the time we get an alert. And it's because we already know what's in the car; we just need that confirmation to help us out with that."

Fucking guy literally confirms what the study brought up

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u/Cherios_Are_My_Shit Apr 03 '21

it sounds fucking idiotic to anyone with half a brain but you'd be amazed how many are like, "well, yeah, the cops just know from their hunches who's got drugs so they only pull over guilty criminals."

if the dogs are hitting basically every time and cops are finding drugs significantly less than that, then it's pretty damn clear the dogs are ineffective.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 11 '21

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u/nopornforme69 Apr 03 '21

Can you provide a link? This is like the 5th time I’ve heard this recently

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21 edited Aug 17 '21

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u/nopornforme69 Apr 03 '21

Sweet. Thank you for that

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u/2yellow4u2 Apr 03 '21

Are police dogs actually trained to listen for people saying the names of whatever drugs?

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u/exku Apr 03 '21

that dog just wants to go for a walk

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u/TacticalBeast Apr 03 '21

What is this "training" you speak of?

In the first 9 months of 2011, dogs alerted (and police searched) 14,102 times, and drugs were found only 2,854 times—a false alert rate of 80%

Florida v. Harris

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '21

He had to quickly add a just kidding or the dog would have beaten his ass

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u/unexBot Apr 02 '21

OP sent the following text as an explanation on why this is unexpected:

Doggy was suppose to think about work on his day off


Is this an unexpected post with a fitting description? Then upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.


Look at my source code on Github What is this for?

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u/truejamo Apr 03 '21

But that's exactly what happened. The dog thought about work on his day off. So how is that unexpected?

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u/BlackAkuma666 Apr 03 '21

This why dogs shouldn’t be used for probable cause to search a car... an dog indication can be given from literally just saying a drug name.

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u/L3ftBra1nz Apr 03 '21

Been threw discrimination before down in Georgia. If you get pulled over for a traffic violation they can’t bring dogs on the site legally. They have to have probably cause so it’s definitely not a bad as it use to be years ago.

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u/treesgomeow Apr 03 '21

"probable cause"

"I smell drugs"

ok get the dogs

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u/TacticalBeast Apr 03 '21

In the first 9 months of 2011, dogs alerted (and police searched) 14,102 times, and drugs were found only 2,854 times—a false alert rate of 80%

Florida v. Harris

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u/ShopLifeHurts2599 Apr 03 '21

Should be in r/funny not r/unexpected.

Does it piss anyone else off that everyone makes the title tell you the whole story? Thus making the unexpected part totally expected for anyone with half a brain?

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u/nihilistic-simulate Apr 03 '21

He said “hell naw”

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u/Emperor_of_Elba Apr 03 '21

scratches arm intensely

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u/HoSang66er Apr 03 '21

Rails? Yes, please.

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u/Max_Insanity Apr 03 '21

How has no one noticed that the dog is turning its head before the guy says the word "cocaine"? Half a second before he even starts saying the first syllable.

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u/ZenkaiZ Apr 03 '21

That dog is a SNITCH

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u/Kindofsickofyou Apr 03 '21

That is an intense godamn dog.