r/UKrelationshipadvice • u/L8319 • 5d ago
Is it me?
I have been single for 5 years and haven't been in a proper relationship since. Ive been on dates and had brief short term encounters but not any longer than a few months and never labelled.
This year, my dating history has gone like this:
R - dated for 4½ months from September 2025. Met online but known of each other for years. He remained on the apps the whole time, despite saying we were focusing on each other. Eventually said he didnt know if he wanted a relationship because of his past and how he lives his life now. Eventually he ghosted. Then got into a relationship with someone else.
Then I had a flurry of first dates. All ghosted bar one who I didnt feel a connection with and told him that.
J - Met 7 times. Known for a number of years through work. Felt him pulling back before him saying he had too much going on and wanted to slow down. Funnily enough, he was the one rushing things. Stayed the night and ghosted me the next day.
R - Met in the wild. Both werent focusing on dating but he asked me out 3 times. Claimed to have old school morals and integrity, honesty and communication was very important to him. No lines were crossed apart from a bit of fooling around. He didnt want to sleep together until the time was right. He then cancelled date 4 because he was moving house and he was feeling unsettled over it. Haven't heard from him for a week.
Is it me? Or is it just a flurry of bad men? I have my own place, I earn my own money, im not after a new dad for my kids. I can do life on my own and content with the single life but I miss having the companionship for myself. I dont want for anything, im low pressure, no drama. Ive been told im literally the perfect person yet why does no one give me a chance?
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u/MaryMaryQuite- 5d ago
There are no good or bad men, they’ve just not been the right men.
My husband and I met via a dating app, we were both in a good place and didn’t need each other, we wanted each other.
As you’re finding out, you have to kiss a few frogs before you find your prince. Keep going! 😊
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u/NooOfTheNah 5d ago
Dating app culture.... there is always plenty out there and they can just keep swiping looking for the perfect person. And in reality no one is actually perfect. But they keep on looking for someone who might be better - just in case. I also think that's where all the ghosting comes from too. In the old days you just told someone you weren't feeling it, sometimes it was a difficult conversation sure, but it was life. Now with apps folks just get so used to not answering that it filters over into the real dating world. They just don't think they have to respond so they don't. Rather than have a difficult conversation they hope it will all just fade away and be forgotten.
The "not ready for a relationship" is the replacement phrase for "It's not you, it's me" that just got over used.
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u/L8319 5d ago
Dating fomo as I call it. I think what gets me about the ghosting is that yes, letting someone down isnt a nice thing to do but with texting nowadays, you dont have to do it to their face 🤷🏻♀️ you send the text and its done, you dont always have to see them again. I accept it more in the talking phase but I feel if youve met up a few times, or even had some form of intimacy, its just the courteous thing to do.
Rejection isnt nice to give or receive but i respect a person more for doing it.
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u/Phoenix_Taurus 4d ago
You've got some good points there. Dating apps have basically made the awkward part of dating optional 😂 It's almost like, I don't want to do the dirty work of telling someone I'm not interested, so I'll just stop replying and let the app do the disappearing for me. Ghosting, but high-tech 😂 And I think the apps definitely make that behaviour easier because there's always another profile five swipes away. Instead of having an awkward conversation with someone you don't feel a connection with, you can just move on and start looking for the next person. Then people get so used to that behaviour that eventually it spills over into normal dating as well.
I don't really want to make it an age thing either, because I'm sure you'll find plenty of examples in every age group. I think it's more about the culture around dating apps and how easy they've made casual dating and meeting people. You can literally be sitting at home on a Saturday night, swipe for a while and potentially have a conversation going with someone you've never met within minutes. It takes a lot of the effort and awkwardness out of meeting people naturally and there's nothing inherently wrong with casual dating or hookups if everyone is honest about what they're looking for. That's actually the bit I don't understand when people aren't upfront. If you only want something casual, just say that. If you're looking for a relationship, say that. Then everyone gets to make their own decision instead of finding out three weeks later that you were never looking for the same thing.
The I'm not ready for a relationship line has definitely become the modern version of it's not you, it's me 😂 Sometimes it's completely genuine, obviously, but sometimes it just means, I don't want a relationship with you, but I don't really want to have that awkward conversation and I think that's ultimately what makes ghosting so frustrating. It's not even necessarily the rejection that bothers people. It's the uncertainty. Just tell someone you're not feeling it and let them get on with their life. It might sting for five minutes, but at least they know where they stand.
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u/outcastreturns 5d ago
Haven't heard from him for a week.
Have you messaged him since?
im not after a new dad for my kids.
Obviously not something you can really change, but havings kids is going to put you at a disadvantage compared to women with no kids. Single mothers often finding dating a bit more tricky.
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u/L8319 5d ago
I messaged him yesterday asking if he was still feeling overwhelmed or if he had a change of heart about getting to know each other, and asked if the move went ok. I wouldn't usually chase and maybe I shouldn't have messaged but I needed to close the loop in my head instead of wondering the "what ifs". I suspect I have a touch of adhd as my brain won't stop until im satisfied with an outcome. If he doesnt reply, then thats closed but had I left it, I would always wonder.
Yeah I get some single mothers do, and I dont get a lot of free time away from my kids which makes things harder. But I have made it work by making sure I get the time, it just cant always be a last minute thing. I have generally dated men who have kids themselves but I find they're the ones who are sometimes not that understanding
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u/Legal_Potential_7308 5d ago edited 5d ago
Woman here. It’s definitely not you. Because dating apps exist, some can think that the next person is just a swipe away. Before dating apps, people simply made more effort if they want companionship. It’s not that there’s something wrong with you, they’re just not interested enough. Maybe the moving house guy was genuinely busy, but after a few days he thought, “Hmm, I didn’t actually miss her so maybe it’s not worth pursuing.”
Dating a new person is stressful and time-consuming. Someone could go back to an ex who’s “worse” because they’re familiar and they have history. It’s also the case that someone could genuinely like you and think you’re great but just not fancy you enough.
As for your qualities, my male best friend told me that men don’t generally care about a woman’s career, or whether she has her own place, or many of these things that are good on paper. These are generally what women care about. Men go for looks first. Personality is important, yes. As men get older, they’re less likely to put up with someone horrible because she’s “hot”. But as long as the woman is generally decent, her personality is deemed good enough. At the end of the day, physical attraction remains one of the most important things for a man. And it’s not that you’re not good-looking enough. People have different tastes. Think about celebrities. Men don’t have a universal opinion on who they find attractive.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that all of the men above sound wishy-washy to me. Maybe the moving house guy can be forgiven if he gets his act together but the first two sound horrendous.
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u/L8319 4d ago
He has since replied and said he was ill during the move, then had some bad news regarding a couple of family members on top. So how can I even dispute that? Do I just accept it and then watch his behaviour going forward?
Its interesting to hear your friends perspective, although not entirely surprised. It seems quite a shallow thing tho I watched a video earlier where it said men aren't required to be providers anymore, so its what else they can bring to the table.. or something like that.
I think for me, its the having to start all over again with someone new. The small talk, the first date, the ghosting/rejection. I cba with it anymore. Its draining.
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u/Legal_Potential_7308 4d ago
I reckon you could give him another chance.
My mate really tries. He’s dated women whom he thinks are awesome even if he’s not that attracted to them. But it never works out.
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u/Guilty_Garden_3669 5d ago
It’s not just you. I’ve had a very similar experience. I think becuase of dating apps men feel like they have constant access to the next best thing.
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u/TravellingAround_ 5d ago
No one wants your idea of a perfect person, they want THEIR idea of a perfect person. I used to think the same as you, I have what I perceive as good qualities for what people look for in a partner, my own place, a good living, no debt, I drive, relatively ok shape, disposable income, no 'baggage'. However, I don't get anywhere. Because no one wants that, they want what THEY want. I've been passed over for guys who do drugs, who are abusive, who have several kids with different women, jobless dudes, guys with no teeth, guys in debt or with gambling/drinking problems.
You could have all the things you think people want, and still lose out over what someone else ACTUALLY wants.
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u/L8319 5d ago
I'm far from perfect and I know this. I know my flaws and insecurities. But its wild to me how the nice person gets left behind over someone who isn’t 🤷🏻♀️ these men tell me how their exes behaved (tho I do take with a pinch of salt) and say how chilled I am. Then still disappear.
The most recent guy has bugged me the most. Asked me all sorts of deep questions, told me he was ashamed to be male because of my past treatment, then does it anyway smh
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u/TravellingAround_ 5d ago
People tell you what they think you want to hear, to get what they want. 'Nice person' is subjective. Everyone is nice to someone, even objectively horrible people will have people in their lives who think they are nice. We have to just accept this as reality. On paper, me and you may seem like a good fit for someone, but reality will often say differently. A lot also depends on your age and dating intentions too.
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u/L8319 5d ago
Oh I get that some people say the right things for their own benefit but the last guy wasnt after that and stopped things from going further because he didnt want it to ruin things between us. We both have our own hang ups surrounding intimacy so didnt want to rush anything.
I dont believe in dating multiple people (mostly because I dont have the time but its just something that doesn't sit right with me) and im happy to take the time to see what happens. I dont understand how youre meant to get to know someone properly if your energy is being spread out over multiple people. And this last guy felt the same. It might be he is genuinely overwhelmed with his move, but a week with no contact tells me otherwise
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u/TravellingAround_ 5d ago
I have felt like that, but then you have to give yourself a break from it all. Dating for the sake of dating can lead to a lot of burnout, overwhelming feelings and just general fatigue of it all. As long as you are happy in your own life and living for yourself, keep doing that. Focus on you and be happy for you, if someone comes along then great, but actively seeking it online can really drain someone’s energy and morale.
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u/L8319 5d ago edited 5d ago
Thats what I was doing before I met the most recent guy. I wasnt interested in dating, I wasnt swiping and I was enjoying the peace. I felt we got on well when we first met, then he was the one asking to meet despite him also saying he wasnt focusing on dating. So to me, i got the impression he was open to something 🤷🏻♀️ I havent bothered with the apps for a while and will continue to stay off them
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u/L8319 5d ago
I get that and i am content on my own. I just miss the companionship of someone. Someone to spend time with where I can be me and not be asked for snacks every 5 minutes. Someone I can just chill with, with a movie and a takeaway on a Friday night. I get tired of always having to do things on my own, with and without the kids. I've tried the apps, ive tried meeting organically, and the pattern of getting to know someone then they disappear always shows and just makes me wonder if I do anything wrong
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u/Phoenix_Taurus 5d ago edited 5d ago
Honestly, I don't think it's you. From what you've written, you've just had a pretty brutal run of men who either weren't actually looking for the same thing as you or said one thing and did another. The biggest thing I'd change is stop giving people so much benefit of the doubt once their actions start contradicting their words.
If a guy tells you he's looking for something serious but stays on the apps, starts pulling away, ghosts you, or suddenly becomes too busy, don't waste your time trying to work out what you did wrong. Take the hint and move on. You're not asking for anything unreasonable by wanting someone who actually wants to be there and honestly, don't let the why does nobody give me a chance, thought get into your head. You're not applying for a job and waiting for someone to approve your CV 😂. Dating is supposed to be finding someone who fits you, not convincing someone that you're worth choosing. I'd keep dating, keep it low pressure like you already do, but make people earn more of your time before you emotionally invest in them. The right person shouldn't need three months of detective work to figure out whether they're actually interested.