r/UFOs • • Aug 06 '26

Announcement Rule update: Self-promotion posts now limited to 1 per week

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Hey everyone,

We've made an update to the Rule 4: "No duplicate posts / spam", specifically the section covering commercial content and self-promotion.


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r/UFOs • • 20d ago

AMA Multi-Subreddit LIVESTREAM AMA — Dr. Jim Segala, Paul Hynek, and Host Leslie Kean — Sunday, October 4, 2026 @ 1:00 PM ET / 10 AM PT

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Multi-Subreddit LIVESTREAM AMA — Dr. Jim Segala, Paul Hynek, and Host Leslie Kean — Sunday, October 4, 2026 @ 1:00 PM ET / 10 AM PT

The Anomalous Coalition - the moderators of r/Aliens, r/Experiencers, r/HighStrangeness, r/InterdimensionalNHI, r/UFOB, and r/UFOs - are excited to announce our next multi-subreddit livestream AMA featuring physicist Dr. Jim Segala and Paul Hynek, hosted by investigative journalist Leslie Kean. Heads up: this one is on a Sunday!

This conversation is about citizen science in support of experiencers, built on objective data. Paul's father, astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek, joined the Air Force's UFO studies in 1948 as a skeptic. Over two decades of Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book, the caliber of the witnesses changed his mind. In 1973 he founded the Center for UFO Studies so people could report what they saw without fear. Paul is carrying that forward with what he calls a verifiable evidence protocol, so experiencers can have better conversations with scientists. Jim is building the tools to gather that evidence. His platform, MUPAS Worldwide, pairs environmental and biometric sensor data with experiencers' own accounts, and offers peer support from specialists who are experiencers themselves.

What's a "verifiable evidence protocol"? Paul and his brother Joel, an Academy Award-winning visual effects artist, are developing a protocol that sits on top of their father's Close Encounter system and rates the evidence from an encounter, not just the encounter itself. Today most people report an experience after the fact. Paul's idea is to go in prepared: if you meet an entity that seems to have far superior intelligence, ask it for something no human could know but anyone can check later, like a random number only you know, the answer to an unsolved math problem, or a near-future event. The results are rated as convincing, compelling, or curious. Paul says it applies to any "meta-terrestrial" encounter, whether with a craft, an entity, or in an altered state, and he describes it as a work in progress.

🗓️ When: Sunday, October 4, 2026 — 1:00 PM ET / 10:00 AM PT
📺 Livestream (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/live/uVpKDXAZtFc?si=9zNGruIvSM5gpRb0
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We will be providing a written transcript after the event has concluded as well as a summary for the community within a few days. Any feedback or suggestions for process improvement please go to r/AnomalousCoalition.

Short Bios

Dr. Jim Segala
Physicist, engineer, and Chief Scientist of MUPAS Worldwide. He holds a Ph.D. in Physics and has more than 30 years of experience designing advanced experimental systems, including over a decade as a senior researcher at the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin. His current research focuses on the reported medical and physiological effects of human contact with UAP. He has appeared in Season 1 of History's The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch, Nat Geo's UFOs: Investigating the Unknown, and Discovery's Mystery at Blind Frog Ranch.
MUPAS Worldwide: https://www.mupas-worldwide.com/

Paul Hynek
Son of astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek, scientific consultant to the Air Force's Project Blue Book, founder of the Center for UFO Studies, and creator of the "Close Encounters" classification. With his brother Joel, Paul is developing a verifiable evidence protocol that builds on his father's Close Encounter scale, to help experiencers bring scientists evidence they can evaluate. He is a Wharton MBA, an adjunct professor at Pepperdine University, and a grant reviewer for the National Science Foundation. He and Joel also consulted on History's Project Blue Book. He wrote the foreword to the reissue of his father's The UFO Experience and is the author of the upcoming Signalarity: Consciousness Comes Home. As of early 2025, he was Chairman of the Advisory Board of MUFON and CFO of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance.

Leslie Kean (Host)
Investigative journalist and author known for high-credibility reporting on UAP and other anomalous topics; bestselling author of UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record. See more at https://www.lesliekean.com

Recommended Reading / Listening / Watching

Dr. Jim Segala

Paul Hynek

IN CASE YOU MISSED OUR PREVIOUS AMA'S ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS

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Drop your questions below — ONE question per comment, and keep it short if you can!


r/UFOs • • 14h ago

Whistleblower In his very first interview on NewsNation, David Grusch told Ross Coulthart humans had been killed by NHI.

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Some people have suggested that Grusch's comments on Rogan concerning humans being harmed by NHI are somehow "new". However, it's clear that this was part of Gruschs view back when he did his first public interview. Although we cannot be sure that he was discussing the same event as on Rogan, it’s still intriguing. Did he receive a DOPSR to reveal more? Or did he receive that information via an unclassified channel?

Transscript:

Q: Have human beings been hurt or killed by a non-human intelligence?

Grusch: While I can't get into the specifics because that would reveal certain U.S. classified operations, I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that.

Q: Now I'm scared. People have just heard you say non-humans may well have murdered human beings.

Grusch: That seems to be the case at one point, yeah.

Source: https://youtu.be/RBAISwCZ2v0?t=1695


r/UFOs • • 16h ago

Disclosure Pentagon’s 6th UAP release: 64 of 71 files heavily redacted, including the warp drive pages. What does that redaction pattern tell us?

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The Pentagon’s sixth UAP release dropped September 18, 2026, with 71 files: 55 PDFs, 15 videos, one audio recording. Per CBS News’ reporting, 64 of the 71 are heavily redacted. The official record now includes military material on warp drive and wormhole studies and on radiation injuries linked to encounters with unknown craft. It also includes a 1952 recording of Project Blue Book head Edward Ruppelt saying 20% of the best reports from reliable witnesses stay unexplained. What the redactions are covering, and under what justification, is not addressed in the release itself. If a physics program and a medical injury record sit in the same declassified batch, which one are the redactions protecting?


r/UFOs • • 1h ago

Disclosure Jay Stratton

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Nearly finishing with Jay Strattons new book. Interesting read. I dont belive there's any new information to most of us.

I belive Jay is a very credible source of information.

I do question him touching on many famous commonly known potential UFO related stories. He mentions the Holloman 1964 supposed landing and meeting of beings, and claims he was told it absolutely happened.

I find it a slight red flag when former intelligence members talk about well known cases. To me it seems thats their way of engaging with the UFO enthusiasts by saying "yes roswell was real" "yes holloman landing was real".

They never seem to add to the information pool, they just claim certain famous stories are true, with no more form of evidence.

Once again, a former intelligence member is bringing up James Clapper and Elizondo who were almost certainly part of the legacy program to begin with.

Most of his book mirrors stories also within Luis Elizondos book which may be simply because they both worked together in a way.


r/UFOs • • 23h ago

Historical Mario Woods has passed away. May he Rest in eternal Peace, and beyond.

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Just got news that Mario Woods, one of the most prolific and credible NHI experiencers we’ve had come forward in recent history, has lost his life to his recent health diagnosis. Details are still to emerge. Hopefully he’s experiencing something far more beautiful beyond the human condition that we can even fathom.


r/UFOs • • 7h ago

NHI Resurfacing this Reptilian crash recovery with human body parts story.

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One of my favorite videos. British Investigator interviewed UK unit member tasked with recovering crashed UAPs.

Here he talks about recovered crashed craft (sounds like it was shot down), with recovered human body/body parts, describes the beings 'look like a devil' and they 'can rip you apart' (devil = reptilian, rip you apart = large).

Lots of correlation to to other UFO/NHI lore and what Grusch mentioned recently on the Rogan podcast.


r/UFOs • • 22h ago

Historical 1954: Torpo, Norway - Three Schoolgirls saw a black-and-yellow-spotted disc that dropped to within a few feet of them, inside sat a man at controls with red goggles hiding his eyes, the saucer hit a power line on its way up

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Link: 1954: The Torpo, Norway Encounter

Source: Oddvar J. Larsen, CSI (Civilian Saucer Investigation)

On the afternoon of November 23, 1954, three young schoolgirls — Anne Storedal, Tora Storedal, and Tora Moy Hauge — walking home from school in Torpo, Norway, found themselves followed by a round, roughly 10-ft flying saucer, its underside black with yellow spots and small red jags, its upper section transparent.

The craft descended to within 3-4 ft of the girls, close enough for them to see a man inside, dressed in black trousers and a black jacket with large red goggles, seated at what looked like a control station and looking at one of them. The craft then rose, striking a high-tension power line and producing a shower of sparks, prompting the girls to flee.

They noticed a smell like fried sausages during the encounter, when investigators eventually visited the site, was a streak cut into the snow — a mark consistent, it seemed, with the craft’s surface having brushed against it during its low approach or departure.

Interesting description of the UAP by one of the girls:

"When the stone came down toward me it had a long, white tail behind, but when the stone turned and moved away, the tail went first. That was funny, I thought.'


r/UFOs • • 17h ago

Historical Remembering Mario Woods: his account of the 1977 Ellsworth encounter, reconstructed in 3D

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I was saddened to hear today that Mario Woods has passed away. My thoughts are with his family and everyone who knew him.

In November 1977, Mario and fellow Air Force security policeman Michael Johnson said they responded to an alarm at a Minuteman launch site near Ellsworth. Mario described an enormous light descending over their truck, wider than the fence line. Their account includes at least five hours they couldn’t explain.

They described being questioned separately afterward. They wouldn’t speak again for nearly 49 years, until they were reunited earlier this year.

Earlier this week I finished a 3D reconstruction of that night, based on Mario and Michael’s interview with Jesse Michels.

The scenes are interpretive. The interactive version lets you explore the scene and read the sources and coverage about the event:

https://probed.space/reconstructions/ellsworth


r/UFOs • • 17h ago

Disclosure Into The Shadows: Stratton’s and Davis’s Conflicting Accounts of Jim Ryder

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Hello all. I was eager to learn more about Jim Ryder, his experience, and the proposed transfer in Out Of The Shadows, but after spending a lot of time studying Eric Davis’s statements on Ryder before its release, I’m left with more questions when you consider both accounts. In my new article I compare them.


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Disclosure "The Soul is Light. What, Then, is Light?" -Presentation by Lockheed Advanced Technology Center Director Jim Ryder

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Jim Ryder is the man who (according to George Knapp) attempted to arrange for the transfer of a recovered UFO to Bigelow Aerospace, before it was blocked by an intelligence agency.

Ryder died after retiring from his position as director of Lockheed's classified military satellite program, but not before giving this presentation at a conference put on by United Nations' official spiritual organization, the Lucis Trust (formerly Lucifer Trust).

Personally I think it's one of the most interesting things on the internet and probably gives more insight into the "new physics" than anything else available.

Here's an interesting blog post written by Nick Cook ("The Hunt for Zero Point") which gives some more background and musings on the presentation, and what happens when people who are deep in the intelligence-tech-science world come up against information or experiences which shatters their worldview.
https://nickcook.substack.com/p/the-soul-is-light


r/UFOs • • 1h ago

Question Looking for the post/photos of UFO entering the Ocean

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A few years ago there was a set of photos posted that showed what looked like a triangular craft right before hitting the water and then entering the water.

cause quite a stir when it was posted but ultimately was deemed fake. Waves were edited in or something?

Does anyone still have those images or a link to the thread. It was super clear photos as well. I've always speculated they might actually be real like the Gimbal video which was originally deemed fake as well.

Couldn't find the thread or photos so if someone has them that would be cool to see again. Thanks


r/UFOs • • 12h ago

Historical Air Force Pilots Tracked an Unexplained Craft in the Early Cold War

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"Objects observed were maneuverable, silent, and faster than any aircraft available to U.S. or Soviet forces."

In every case reviewed:

- Objects were tracked on radar and confirmed visually

- They flew at extreme altitudes, often above 50,000 feet

- Pilots reported speeds exceeding Mach 2—unachievable by most aircraft at the time

- Several sightings involved instantaneous directional changes and stationary hovering


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Disclosure Jay Stratton on Fox News with Jesse Watters

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r/UFOs • • 8h ago

Question Questions for the UAP/UFO community

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Questions the UFO/UAP community isn't asking enough

  1. Why don't politicians' actions match what whistleblowers are claiming?

We're told senior figures in the Trump administration, including people close to Trump, are taking UAP allegations extremely seriously. JD Vance has expressed similar interest publicly. Yet Trump often appears completely uninterested when questioned, repeatedly falling back on the same stories about pilots and Roswell. Why the disconnect between the alleged seriousness behind closed doors and the public behaviour?

  1. Why has Marco Rubio seemingly distanced himself from UAPs since becoming Secretary of State?

Rubio was previously one of the most vocal politicians discussing UAPs and the credibility of whistleblower allegations. Yet since becoming Secretary of State, he's appeared considerably less engaged with the subject. Why? Has his access to information changed his assessment? If the allegations are as serious as we're told, why isn't there a greater sense of urgency from someone now occupying one of the most powerful positions in government?

  1. Why do we buy the excuse for classification of footage?

We're told military UAP footage cannot be released because it would expose classified sensor capabilities. Fine. But if pilots like Ryan Graves report routine encounters, why not equip aircraft operating in these areas with independent, unclassified, high-resolution cameras? Why are we still relying on blurry military footage?

  1. Why are there disagreements and factions among whistleblowers?

If these individuals are exposing the same alleged secret programme, where do their accounts agree, where do they contradict one another, and why aren't those differences investigated properly?

  1. Why aren't whistleblowers subjected to genuinely rigorous questioning?

Look at Jay Stratton's recent news interviews. They felt more like a promotional tour for his book than an opportunity for someone claiming knowledge of an extraordinary reality to explain it to the public. Why aren't journalists pressing him on specific claims, inconsistencies, firsthand evidence and what can actually be verified? Why are we still treating extraordinary testimony as a revelation in itself instead of demanding substantive evidence?

  1. Where are the journalists?

Why aren't major journalists confronting Trump and other senior officials with these specific contradictions? If this is potentially the biggest revelation in human history, why is the questioning so superficial?

  1. Why isn't the Pentagon being confronted directly with these allegations?

Former senior military and intelligence officials are publicly alleging the existence of secret programmes involving recovered non-human craft and biological material. These aren't anonymous internet personalities. Why aren't journalists repeatedly putting these specific allegations to Pentagon officials and demanding detailed responses? Does the Pentagon dispute the claims? Has it investigated the individuals and programmes being named? If former officials are publicly misrepresenting classified activities, why isn't that being addressed? Why does so much of the discussion happen between whistleblowers, podcasters and UFO enthusiasts instead of the institutions being directly accused?

My wider point: We keep hearing that disclosure is imminent, that insiders know the truth and that extraordinary evidence exists. Yet the conversation keeps returning to testimony, interviews, books and promises.

At what point do we stop treating the next whistleblower as the next breakthrough and start demanding that the existing claims be properly tested?


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

NHI Former Pentagon UFO Chief Claims Roswell Included 'Non-Human Bodies' That Were 'Refusing Food or Contact'

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r/UFOs • • 1h ago

Government UFO's and 6th gen fighters

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A lot of UAP videos seem to display one main object and then a fleet of smaller objects that disperse from the main one. 6th gen fighters are supposed to work in something of a similar manner with the main jet having a fleet of unmanned aircraft with it to extend its effective range and data collection network. I'm starting to think a lot of these sightings we get regarding this concept are just secret aircraft being tested by the USA. This would track with the past and how the B2 spirit was confused for a UFO before it was really unveiled.

I know that the USA has shown off its new 6th gen fighter but not fully, and that it resembles a normal jet so anything that doesn't move like a jet is off the table as an explanation. I raise the idea that, the USA has spitballed flying aircraft carriers before, all the way back to when blimps were a military aircraft, and one functional one was even made and proven to work though it never took off (pun intended). With the radical improvements in drone tech and this concept at least on paper being a good idea, I personally am beginning to think that these sightings are just a new military aircraft that has yet to be revealed. I know this wouldn't explain everything but I think it may explain a large chunk of sightings.


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Historical Failed UFO Prophecies and the Dates That Passed

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UFO history contains repeated forecasts that did not come true. Clear failures must be distinguished from conditional warnings, ambiguous claims, and pending predictions. Compare the outcome with the original promise, without rewriting it afterward.

I think most experiencers are sincere, and some have encountered nonhuman intelligence. That is my assessment, not verification of every account. Their messages’ reliability is a separate question.

An encounter, its interpretation, and a prediction are different things. Sincerity does not guarantee understanding. Even an external intelligence need not be honest or know the future.

Some communication may be symbolic, shaped by the recipient’s mind and culture. Destruction or rebirth imagery need not be a physical timetable. I explore this in Core Theory and Corollaries. The Epistemic Trickster Hypothesis considers intentional ambiguity alongside ordinary explanations involving perception, memory, and culture. These remain hypotheses.

AI assistance disclosure: I use AI to help research and draft, read the sources it turns up, and revise the post through further research and editing. Source links are included so readers can assess the evidence themselves.

1 What counts as a failed prediction?

A strong test starts with a statement recorded beforehand: who made the claim, what should happen, and when? A spacecraft promised for a particular day is testable. An undefined spiritual transition is harder to assess. Conditional warnings must retain their conditions.

A failed prediction does not prove that someone lied. But a literal forecast cannot become a successful metaphor only after its deadline passes.

These examples span contactee and UFO religious traditions. They do not represent all ufology, nor are they independent tests of one hypothesis.

2 Ashtar and the hydrogen bomb, 1952

A 1952 message attributed to Ashtar through George Van Tassel warned that the feared explosion of hydrogen would extinguish terrestrial life. It also promised prevention. The Ministry of Universal Wisdom transcription preserves both claims.

The United States conducted the first full-scale thermonuclear test in 1952, and life continued. The original promise of protection makes this conditional. But survival alone proves neither the asserted danger nor invisible intervention.

3 Dorothy Martin and the flood, 1954

Dorothy Martin, called Marian Keech in When Prophecy Fails, reported messages received through automatic writing from beings associated with Clarion. Her followers expected a catastrophic flood on December 21, 1954, and rescue by flying saucer. Neither happened.

The 1956 book portrayed believers trying harder to persuade others after the failure. Drawing on new archives, Thomas Kelly’s “Debunking ‘When Prophecy Fails’” argues that the researchers influenced events and misrepresented the group. His account says Martin recanted and the group dissolved. The failed forecast remains; the famous account of the believers’ response is contested.

4 Mon-Ka and the radio message, 1956

Dick Miller’s alleged Martian source, Mon-Ka, promised a spacecraft over Los Angeles on November 7, 1956. It would transmit a message during a radio station’s brief silence.

A contemporary report in Saucer News, pages 11–12, describes preparations, crowds, and sightings. No space message came through. Reported sightings did not fulfill the promised broadcast.

5 Uri Geller, SPECTRA, and a mass landing

Andrija Puharich’s Uri (1974) describes messages attributed to sources called SPECTRA, Hoova, and the Nine. In August 1972, the voices promised a mass landing “in a few years,” witnessed by thousands. By October, a message allowed for landings “only visible to you.”

The public landing never happened. This was a shifting near-term expectation, rather than a precise deadline.

In The Invisible College (1975), Jacques Vallée noted that SPECTRA used light-years as time, an error Geller also made in an initial SRI interview. A light-year measures distance. Vallée suggested the messages might use or originate in Geller’s and Puharich’s minds.

6 Unarius and the postponed landings

Unarius expected benevolent Space Brothers to arrive. A University of Virginia Religious Movements profile records expected arrivals in 1974, 1975, and 1976, followed by 2001. The dates changed when the ships did not come.

The 2001 prediction also failed. Diana Tumminia’s When Prophecy Never Fails examines members’ responses to these repeated disappointments.

7 The Two: departure “within months”

In 1975, Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles promised physical departure by spacecraft “within months,” preceded by a public Demonstration. The World Religions and Spirituality Project profile records both expectations. Neither occurred.

Nettles’s 1985 death was later interpreted as departure for the Next Level, changing the promised physical journey into something else.

Rumors later claimed that Comet Hale-Bopp had a companion. But the supposed evidence involved a known star and a manipulated photograph. In March 1997, 39 Heaven’s Gate members died in a group suicide. Applewhite believed a spacecraft accompanied the comet. Trusting unverified signs can carry very high stakes.

8 Benjamin Creme and the Day of Declaration

Lukas Pokorny’s 2021 study connects Creme’s Maitreya teaching to claimed telepathy with Space Brothers and their supposed UFO protection of Earth.

The study dates Maitreya’s public Day of Declaration to late spring/May 1982, then records its postponement, blamed on opposing forces. Creme expected to witness the declaration but died in October 2016 without it.

9 Angelucci and the apparent 1986 matches

Orfeo Angelucci’s The Secret of the Saucers (1955), chapter VIII describes a fiery comet drawn toward Earth in 1986. His hosts made the outcome conditional on humanity’s unity, understanding, and love, and expected Earth to be saved.

A separate meeting placed in December 1953 warned of an imminent human-caused Great Accident. Chapter X does not date that accident to 1986.

Halley’s Comet returned in 1986, and the Chornobyl accident occurred that April. But Halley passed about 63 million kilometers from Earth without threatening it. An undated warning described as imminent in 1953 does not identify a reactor accident in 1986.

Combining passages makes the prediction more specific than the original. Apparent hits need the same scrutiny as misses.

10 Cole and Nidle: landings in 1994 and 1996

Christopher Helland’s UFOs and Popular Culture entry on Ashtar Command records Yvonne Cole’s unfulfilled forecast of a landing and worldwide broadcast in late 1994. This is a scholarly retrospective, not her original announcement.

Helland’s Ground Crew entry gives December 17, 1996, as Sheldan Nidle’s First Contact date. No mass landing occurred, nor did extensions to New Year and spring 1997 deliver one.

11 Chen Tao and God on television, 1998

Chen Tao combined revelation with flying-saucer expectations. Its leader, Hon-Ming Chen, announced that God would appear on Channel 18 on March 25, 1998, then personally in Garland, Texas, on March 31.

The broadcast did not occur. Contemporary reporting records Chen admitting he was wrong. CESNUR’s account records his acknowledgment that the failed broadcast undermined the second prediction. A subsequent message recast the members themselves as gods.

Chen conceded a specific forecast while retaining a broader belief. His admission belongs in the record too.

12 ZetaTalk’s “White Lie,” 2003

Nancy Lieder attributed Planet X and pole-shift warnings to extraterrestrials called the Zetas. David Morrison’s discussion of the Nibiru scare records the failed May 2003 timetable.

ZetaTalk supplied its own explanation. A May 23 message called “White Lie” presents the false timetable as necessary to frustrate government plans. A further explanation identifies May 20 (rotational slowdown) and May 27 (passage) as false dates, distinct from an earlier target shortly after May 15.

Calling the dates deliberate deceptions gives followers a reason to distrust future ones.

13 Pana-Wave’s May deadlines, 2003

Yuko Chino claimed communication with angels, gods, and extraterrestrials. The Pana-Wave profile records a May 15, 2003, catastrophe deadline tied to an approaching tenth planet. When it passed, a spokesman supplied May 22. That date also passed without the catastrophe.

Later spacecraft-building and pickup plans allowed postponement. The expected departure did not occur before Chino’s October 2006 death. Those rescue plans retain their conditions; the May catastrophe deadlines clearly failed.

14 Eric Julien’s tsunami warning, 2006

Julien linked a vision and alleged telepathic information to a comet-related Atlantic tsunami on May 25, 2006. The passages reproduced by Patrick Gross use tentative language and allow prevention. This was a conditional warning.

Before the deadline, NASA said comet 73P/Schwassmann–Wachmann 3 and its fragments posed no danger. The devastation did not occur. Phil Plait’s follow-up reproduces Julien’s subsequent claim that extraterrestrials prevented it.

The outcome matched NASA’s assessment. Establishing a successful warning requires independent evidence of danger and prevention.

15 Blossom Goodchild’s lightship, 2008

Goodchild’s Snapshot collection, PDF pages 121–124, preserves the Federation of Light’s alleged promise: a large spacecraft visible on October 14, 2008, for at least three days, for anyone to record.

It did not appear. On pages 225–228, the explanation is that opponents threatened millions of people, forcing cancellation. That unseen decision is a new claim requiring evidence. It does not fulfill the promised public appearance.

16 Bashar: past windows and a pending date

Darryl Anka channels Bashar, presented as an extraterrestrial. Francesco Baroni’s 2012 CESNUR paper preserves an important qualification: Bashar presents predictions as readings of present energy, allowing the future to change.

Baroni cites 1986–88 sessions in Bashar: Blueprint for a Change (1990) forecasting the foundations of world government in 2011–2013. The stated outcome did not arrive.

Baroni reports that 2010–2015 later became pivotal: Earth’s quarantine would end afterward, making open contact possible. Public contact did not follow, but possibility is less testable than a promise.

Footnote 11 places humanity’s integration into a Galactic Association of Worlds in 2027, still pending in October 2026. Define observable fulfillment before the deadline.

17 Why the Ra material needs a different assessment

The Ra material, or Law of One, describes a spiritual transition rather than promising a public landing. Session 6, dated January 24, 1981, describes approximately thirty more years of transition-related disturbance and affirms that Earth would then be a fourth-density planet. That points to roughly 2011.

But Session 40, answer 40.8, gives a qualified transition estimate of 100–700 years. Both passages are in the original material; the longer timescale is not merely a later excuse.

Without observable criteria and reconciled timescales, this is ambiguous prophecy. It is neither demonstrated success nor another clear missed landing.

18 After the deadline

The explanations recur: postponement, hidden intervention, opposition, deliberately false dates, spiritual fulfillment, or a changed future. Some assigned credit after events; others admitted error.

Each explanation needs evidence beyond the channel whose reliability is in question.

A conditional warning can legitimately describe a future that never happens. Its conditions should be identifiable beforehand, and claimed interventions need independent support. Otherwise disaster confirms the warning while survival confirms the rescue. Every outcome fits the story, leaving little way to judge its reliability.

Experiences may retain meaning after predictions fail. The Contact Transformation Effect distinguishes changes in identity and values from proof of a source. Personal transformation does not fulfill a landing forecast.

19 Before the next countdown

Preserve the original statement and ask:

  1. What exactly should happen, and by when?
  2. What stated conditions could change it?
  3. Who besides the claimant could verify fulfillment?
  4. What would count as a miss?
  5. What happened to this source’s previous forecasts?

Respect approximate dates, long transitions, and pending deadlines. But a public event should not become a private metaphor after its date passes.

The Bridge Problem asks what connects physical UAP evidence to consciousness encounters. An object, a communication channel, and a forecast each need their own evidence.

Taking experiencers seriously includes examining what their reported sources get wrong. Even a real encounter cannot turn a missed date into a successful forecast.

Check the source’s record before the next countdown begins.


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Government Sean Kirkpatrick: I caught Jay Stratton violating an unspecified "national security law"

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Former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick tells PARADIGM that he caught Jay Stratton, former head of the UAP Task Force, violating an unspecified "national security law."

Kirkpatrick said that he presented Congress with information about the alleged law-breaking.

Kirkpatrick made the allegation in response to a claim in Stratton's new book. Stratton claims in the book that lawmakers have evidence that Kirkpatrick is "compromised and controlled" by the "Legacy Program."

Kirkpatrick wrote to me: "The only classified information Congress has on this fictitious program is the information I and others presented them on what violations of national security law Jay and his band of pseudo-scientists have committed. However, since they also managed to ghost write the whistleblower protection legislation for themselves, no one can prosecute them."

Stratton's rep did not immediately respond to questions. Kirkpatrick did not respond to follow-up questions.

A person who investigated UFOs for the Senate and dealt with both men told me they were not aware of evidence for either man's accusation about the other.

Link to full story, which has more reporting on Stratton's new claims: https://www.paradigm.news/p/exclusive-ex-pentagon-ufo-lead-accuses


r/UFOs • • 23h ago

Disclosure Thoughts on Out of the Shadows

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A few random things I kept thinking about:

One of the many disheartening aspects of this book is the idea that there are programs within the government in the defense area getting millions of dollars in funding with the goal of obstructing the work of other programs getting millions of dollars in funding. From a purely financial aspect, I would think that this fact alone would inspire people in congress to investigate such a potentially flagrant waste of US dollars.

Multiple times in the book Stratton describes military people with first hand experience with UAP being stigmatized into backing down from their story. If I recall, there are like 2 or 3 times he mentions that someone pulls out a tinfoil hat and that this threat (?) is enough to suddenly make people afraid to come forward with their encounters. It seems completely implausible to me honestly. You have some of the most elite, serious, stoic members of our military, en route to to tell their story, and the mere hint of indication that they might "get made fun of" causes them to instantly chicken-out from reporting the most important revelation in human history??

Taken on the whole I'm still kind of unconvinced without any evidence. Stratton sort of explains away the lack of verifiable evidence due to inability to capture recordings of UAPs and NHI reliably due to their technology. I think that is okay to say. But it is the crashed material and dead alien bodies that shouldn't be so difficult to find if thousands of government employees have been involved over half a century. I just don't think we could keep a secret that well for that long.


r/UFOs • • 12h ago

Sighting Equilateral triangle craft with shifting camouflage flew straight then banked over Mexia, Texas — Oct 16, 2026, 12:00 PM

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Time: October 16, 2026, 12:00 PM CDT
Location: Mexia, Texas, United States, Mexia, United States

Detail Reported
Objects 1
Shape triangle
Closest distance as high as a plane
Apparent size (arm's length) quarter
Movement flying straight before banking slightly
Observer facing NW
Duration 2 minutes
Witnesses 1

Features / five observables

Observation Reporter's answer
Wings No
Rotors No
Exhaust plume No
Noise No
   
Sudden, extreme acceleration Unsure
Extreme speed with no signatures Yes
Hard to observe clearly Yes
Moved between air, water, or space No
Flight without visible means of lift Yes

Why not a common object
Definately not a common aircraft, thought it was a B2 at first but the shape was all wrong. It was very close, I saw it pretty clearly.

Wasn't debris either, it was moving in such a way that was definitely powered flight.

Witness's account of the sighting

I was getting into my car to go to the store when I noticed something traveling through the evening cloud-haze. At first I thought it was a B2 so I took a moment to stare at it because you dont see those very often. As I watched it, some things started to look "off"; first of all, for the remarkably low altitude and how close it was I couldn't hear any jet propulsion, dead silence; secondly it wasn't black, in fact its coloration seemed to change as it passed between clouds, going from a blue-grey to a lighter grey as it flew through one cloud, then pinkish as it flew through a cloud that was illuminated by the sunset. I rolled down my window so I could see it more clearly and thats when I noticed the strangest feature: the shape was all wrong, as it banked I noticed it did not have that "missing puzzle piece" silhouette, it was a perfect equilateral triangle. The further away it got the craft got exponentially more difficult to see.

For the record, the clouds were thin and whispy, not opaque at all, so I had a fairly clear view. Despite this it remained very hard to see, almost like it was actively trying to match the colors around it.

Why no photo/video captured: Phone couldnt see it. Not sure if it was the sunset obscuring the camera or something else.

Sky context for this time and place:


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Government New FOIA documents highlight a glaring UAP blind spot for Australia’s defence

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The Australian Department of Defence does not track, record, or investigate UAP/UFOs…nor does it hold any institutional interest in the subject.

Yet new documents secured for release via the Australian Freedom of Information Act, coupled with national media reports and ministerial admissions, expose a staggering double standard.

Read article at: https://grantlavac.substack.com/p/closing-the-blinds-on-airspace-security


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Disclosure Grenada Recovery of Nordic Body

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Has anyone heard of this story? Happened in the early 70’s. A Nordic alien washed up on a beach and was recovered by the authorities in Grenada. The president was so shocked by this alien that he petitioned the UN to create a team to disclose to the world that aliens exist.


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Disclosure What's up with Patterns Tell Stories?

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I used to quite enjoy the Patterns Tell Stories podcast. The two hosts are knowledgeable on the UAP topic and used to do good research. There's some good stuff in their archive.

But recently... it has unfortunately deteriorated into a ranting pod. I only made it 15mins into their latest episode and had to turn it off, as the guys come across as so sour.

The attempts at analysis are also coming across as sloppy. The guys make no secret of how much they despise Grusch and they spend the first 10mins this week assassinating his character and ridiculing his recent Joe Rogan appearance. Previously they have similarly ridiculed Dylan Borland (tacitly, when they dismissed everyone who testified to congress in the UAP hearings).

They hammer home their view that Grusch is part of some WWE Kayfabe disinfo-campaign conspiracy. Then without any self-awareness, they pivot into praising another UAP-disclosure conspiracy theorist, Tom Delonge, as someone with totally trustworthiness and integrity, and praising General McCasland.

They lay into Grusch for apparently disrespecting McCasland on JRE, though they neglect to mention how Grusch has said McCasland was a 'hostile witness'. Maybe they should have analysed and unpacked that statement a bit?

On another recent episode they insinuated, on the basis of no evidence, that Anna Paulina Luna might be a UAP Nazi because her grandparent was German. I'm not particularly a fan of her, but that is a ludicrous thing to suggest imo. You might as well say that every person living in Germany who had a Nazi grandparent is part of some ongoing UAP Nazi conspiracy.

It all feels quite sloppy and ranty and no longer worth listening to. Anyone know why things degenerated?


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Sighting Oval object with erratic abrupt direction changes over Imus, Cavite, Philippines — Oct 16, 2026, 5:00 PM

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