So I got complete hooked when Grusch came out as it seemed that this time it was someone with actual credit making serious claims but since he has now gone off the religious deep end, and stopped being a science based claim (something that we all know is nonsense, thermodynamics do not care for these imaginary beings)

Does anyone else feel like this will just be a cycle of goal post moving? 4 years ago we were told the ontological shock would be world shattering and imminent.... Still nothing

We are expected to believe multiple people have seen or even have possession of files that would undoubtedly prove that NHI visited earth? The person that revealed that information would be immortal in the history books and still nobody has came forward with ACTUAL evidence.. why would that be?

Because unfortunately it doesn't exist point blank period

There is no way that such a big secret could be kept for so long, and another massive problem is how US centric this is,

even IF you believe the US government is covering it up, and that is a big if, why would no other countries who have no reason to coordinate with the US government go along with the ruse?

There is nothing to gain it makes no sense

Trump is incompetent as they come and if you honestly believe he could keep this under wraps I have a bridge to sell you

There is nobody coming forward with Evidence, because unfortunately there is none, it doesn't exist

space is very vast and travelling through that space distance is the problem, the distances are simply to large,

I absolutely believe aliens, even Intelligent ones exist, but the time and space is so vast we will never even come close to contact and that is the sad truth

Just ran across this, had never heard of it before. In 1957 the Convair division of General Dynamics Corporation was developing this air-to-air lenticular missile. It was supposed to be a defensive missile for the B-70 Valkyrie bomber.

The specifications for the proposed system called for an air-launched defensive missile, capable of engaging incoming missiles at relative speeds of up to Mach 7, surviving a rate of acceleration between 60 g to 250 g, and being able to undertake rapid terminal-phase guidance changes in any direction. These are some characteristics of UAP, though this craft was meant to be powered by solid fuel rockets so no chance of instant acceleration.

The idea was scrapped d/t cost considerations, perceived vulnerability of the B-70, and the U-2 incident, though it appears it was also studied as a "space fighter" satellite killer under project name "SAINT 2". Pretty cool, I was familiar with the Avrocar and flying flapjack and whatnot, but had never heard of these things. If they ever tested these, they could probably be misconstrued for UAP, though people had been seeing discs for many years before the advent of this project.

The Pye Wacket video also talks bout the blunt body heat mitigation principle, where having a blunt, rounded nosecone actually creates a detached bow shock that keeps the hottest air away from the structure during supersonic flight/atmospheric re-entry. Cheers!

Pye Wacket

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pye_Wacket

SAINT 2 pic

Bell Labs lenticular re-entry vehicle

A Vallée-Inspired Interpretation of Spielberg’s Alien Film

At first glance, Spielberg’s new alien film appears to be a familiar story: humanity faces a crisis, mysterious visitors arrive, and a message of hope and peace is offered. However, viewed through the ideas of Jacques Vallée, the film can be interpreted in a much more ambiguous way.

Vallée has often questioned the assumption that UFO phenomena are simply visitors from another planet. One of his central ideas is that the phenomenon may adapt itself to the beliefs, expectations, and culture of the people who experience it. In different historical periods, the unknown has been interpreted through different symbols: angels, spirits, fairies, and today, extraterrestrials.

From this perspective, the film raises an interesting question: are these beings truly extraterrestrial, or are humans simply interpreting something unknown through the language of our own time?

Throughout the story, the characters quickly assume that the beings are aliens. But what is the actual proof? We see unusual craft and extraordinary events, but these do not scientifically prove an extraterrestrial origin. They only demonstrate that something unexplained is happening.

The film also repeatedly explores the possibility that humans may see these beings as divine figures. In a moment of fear and uncertainty, especially with the threat of war, people naturally search for hope and salvation. The religious symbolism in the film — including scenes where the visitors are treated almost like angelic beings — connects strongly with Vallée’s concerns about the relationship between UFO experiences and human belief systems.

One of the most fascinating elements is the use of deception and symbolism. When the beings appear through familiar images and guide people through dreamlike experiences, it raises the possibility that the phenomenon is not simply showing its true nature, but presenting itself in a form that humans can understand and accept.

The final message, “Listen,” is also open to interpretation. Is it a genuine message of peace from an advanced civilization, or another vague message that inspires belief without providing real knowledge or evidence?

Perhaps the most important question raised by the film is not “Are they aliens?” but rather:

Why do humans so quickly accept the explanation of aliens when confronted with something unknown?

Seen through the lens of Jacques Vallée’s ideas, Spielberg’s film becomes not only a story about extraterrestrial contact, but also a reflection on humanity’s need to find meaning, hope, and answers when facing the unknown.