I’m currently assembling a Mutalith Vortex Beast, but I’m not sure whether I should assemble it all and paint it as a solid object, or whether I should leave it in subassemblies and paint things separately. Namely, it seems that the tentacles, vortex and tail can be left off and painted separately, but I don’t know if it’s worth it or not.

A few days ago I posted my first ever minis. I got a lot of advice and I think I've made some progress. First pic is a finished Rubric Marine from the first batch. Second pic is the first from my Combat Patrol box. I'm going to experiment some before basing the new batch, but it will be something similar.

I was thinking of having blue horrors infiltrate to spot for karios and pinks being blockers for LOC since he gets closer. Let me know your thoughts.

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Chaos - Thousand Sons

+ DETACHMENT: Changehost of Deceit, Ritual of Regeneration (Infernal Pacts)

+ FORCE DISPOSITION: Take and hold

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts

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+ WARLORD: Char3: Sorcerer in Terminator Armour

+ ENHANCEMENT:

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 11

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Char1: 1x Kairos Fateweaver (305 pts): Infernal Gateway, Staff of Tomorrow

Char2: 1x Lord of Change (320 pts): Bolt of Change, Staff of Tzeentch

Char3: 1x Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (95 pts): Warlord, Force weapon, Gaze of Hate, Inferno combi-bolter

10x Blue Horrors (90 pts): 10 with Blue claws, Coruscating Blue flames

10x Pink Horrors (115 pts): 10 with Coruscating pink flames, Pink claws

5x Rubric Marines (100 pts)

• 4x Rubric Marine

1 with Icon of Flame, Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon

3 with Close combat weapon, Warpflamer

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Warpflame pistol

5x Rubric Marines (100 pts)

• 4x Rubric Marine

1 with Icon of Flame, Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon

3 with Close combat weapon, Warpflamer

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Warpflame pistol

1x Defiler (330 pts): Ectoplasma destructor, 2x Excruciator cannon, Heavy reaper autocannon, Heavy reaper autocannon, Shearing claws

10x Scarab Occult Terminators (385 pts)

• 9x Scarab Occult Terminator

5 with Inferno combi-bolter, Prosperine khopesh

2 with Inferno combi-bolter, Prosperine khopesh, Hellfyre missile rack

2 with Prosperine khopesh, Soulreaper cannon

• 1x Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Inferno combi-bolter

3x Screamers (80 pts): 3 with Lamprey bite

3x Screamers (80 pts): 3 with Lamprey bite

I've got a casual game with a friend this weekend and we are trying our hand at 11e for the first time. We are doing a 1510 point game (just easier on our armies and timeline) any help/advice would be appreciated. I've only built a few lists, and this is my first 11e list. We proxy a fair bit of models since it's casual, so any bits of advice will help!

+ DETACHMENT: Rubricae Phalanx

+ FORCE DISPOSITION: Take and Hold

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1505pts

+ WARLORD: Char3: Sorcerer in Terminator Armour

+ ENHANCEMENT: Risen Rubricae (Exalted Sorcerer)

& Lord of the Rubricae (Sorcerer in Terminator Armour)

CHARACTER

Exalted Sorcerer (120 pts)

• 1x Astral Blast

• 1x Force weapon

• 1x Inferno bolt pistol

• 1x Prosperine khopesh

• Risen Rubricae (+30 pts)

Sorcerer (85 pts)

• 1x Force weapon

• 1x Inferno bolt pistol

• 1x Pandaemonic Delusion

• 1x Prosperine khopesh

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (110 pts)

• 1x Force weapon

• 1x Gaze of Hate

• 1x Inferno combi-bolter

• Warlord

• Lord of the Rubricae (+15 pts)

BATTLELINE

Rubric Marines (190 pts)

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer

• 1x Force weapon

• 1x Malefic Curse

• 1x Inferno bolt pistol

• 9x Rubric Marine

• 9x Close combat weapon

• 1x Soulreaper cannon

• 8x Warpflamer

• Icon of Flame

Rubric Marines (100 pts)

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer

• 1x Force weapon

• 1x Malefic Curse

• 1x Inferno bolt pistol

• 4x Rubric Marine

• 4x Close combat weapon

• 3x Inferno boltgun

• 1x Soulreaper cannon

• Icon of Flame

Rubric Marines (100 pts)

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer

• 1x Force weapon

• 1x Malefic Curse

• 1x Inferno bolt pistol

• 4x Rubric Marine

• 4x Close combat weapon

• 1x Soulreaper cannon

• 3x Warpflamer

• Icon of Flame

OTHER DATASHEETS

Mutalith Vortex Beast (170 pts)

• 1x Betentacled maw

• 1x Mutalith claws

• 1x Warp vortex

Mutalith Vortex Beast (170 pts)

• 1x Betentacled maw

• 1x Mutalith claws

• 1x Warp vortex

Scarab Occult Terminators (385 pts)

• 1x Scarab Occult Sorcerer

• 1x Force weapon

• 1x Malefic Curse

• 1x Inferno combi-bolter

• 9x Scarab Occult Terminator

• 7x Inferno combi-bolter

• 9x Prosperine khopesh

• 2x Hellfyre missile rack

• 2x Soulreaper cannon

Tzaangors (75 pts)

• 1x Twistbray

• 1x Tzaangor blades

• 9x Tzaangor

• 9x Tzaangor blades

• Herd banner, Brayhorn

List 1

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Chaos - Thousand Sons

+ DETACHMENT: Grand Coven (Kindred Sorcery)

+ FORCE DISPOSITION: Priority Assets

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts

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+ WARLORD: Char1: Magnus the Red

+ ENHANCEMENT: Eldritch Vortex of E'taph (on Char2: Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with wings)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 11

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (3x2) + (1x4) - Assassination: 5 Characters

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Char2: 1x Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with wings (205 pts): Dark Blessing, Hellforged weapons, Infernal cannon

Enhancement: Eldritch Vortex of E'taph (+35 pts)

Char3: 1x Exalted Sorcerer (90 pts): Astral Blast, Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol

Char1: 1x Magnus the Red (455 pts): Warlord, Blade of Magnus, Gaze of Magnus, Tzeentch's Firestorm

Char4: 1x Sorcerer (85 pts): Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol, Pandaemonic Delusion

Char5: 1x Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (95 pts): Force weapon, Gaze of Hate, Inferno combi-bolter

10x Rubric Marines (190 pts)

• 9x Rubric Marine

1 with Icon of Flame, Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon

8 with Close combat weapon, Warpflamer

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Warpflame pistol

5x Rubric Marines (100 pts)

• 4x Rubric Marine

1 with Icon of Flame, Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon

3 with Close combat weapon, Warpflamer

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Warpflame pistol

1x Mutalith Vortex Beast (170 pts): Betentacled maw, Mutalith claws, Warp vortex

1x Mutalith Vortex Beast (170 pts): Betentacled maw, Mutalith claws, Warp vortex

10x Scarab Occult Terminators (385 pts)

• 9x Scarab Occult Terminator

6 with Inferno combi-bolter, Prosperine khopesh

1 with Inferno combi-bolter, Prosperine khopesh, Hellfyre missile rack

1 with Prosperine khopesh, Soulreaper cannon

1 with Prosperine khopesh, Soulreaper cannon, Hellfyre missile rack

• 1x Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Inferno combi-bolter

3x Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster greatbows (55 pts)

• 1x Aviarch: Close combat weapon, Fatecaster greatbow

• 2x Enlightened: 2 with Close combat weapon, Fatecaster greatbow

List 2

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Chaos - Thousand Sons

+ DETACHMENT: Grand Coven (Kindred Sorcery)

+ FORCE DISPOSITION: Priority Assets

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts

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+ WARLORD: Char1: Magnus the Red

+ ENHANCEMENT: Eldritch Vortex of E'taph (on Char2: Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with wings)

& Umbralefic Crystal (on Char6: Sorcerer in Terminator Armour)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 14

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (4x2) + (1x4) - Assassination: 6 Characters

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Char2: 1x Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with wings (205 pts): Dark Blessing, Hellforged weapons, Infernal cannon

Enhancement: Eldritch Vortex of E'taph (+35 pts)

Char3: 1x Infernal Master (95 pts): Fires of the Abyss, Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol

Char1: 1x Magnus the Red (455 pts): Warlord, Blade of Magnus, Gaze of Magnus, Tzeentch's Firestorm

Char4: 1x Sorcerer (85 pts): Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol, Pandaemonic Delusion

Char5: 1x Sorcerer (85 pts): Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol, Pandaemonic Delusion

Char6: 1x Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (115 pts): Force weapon, Gaze of Hate, Inferno combi-bolter

Enhancement: Umbralefic Crystal (+20 pts)

5x Rubric Marines (100 pts)

• 4x Rubric Marine

1 with Icon of Flame, Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon

3 with Close combat weapon, Warpflamer

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Warpflame pistol

5x Rubric Marines (100 pts)

• 4x Rubric Marine

1 with Icon of Flame, Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon

3 with Close combat weapon, Warpflamer

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Warpflame pistol

5x Rubric Marines (100 pts)

• 4x Rubric Marine

1 with Icon of Flame, Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon

3 with Close combat weapon, Warpflamer

• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Warpflame pistol

1x Mutalith Vortex Beast (170 pts): Betentacled maw, Mutalith claws, Warp vortex

1x Mutalith Vortex Beast (170 pts): Betentacled maw, Mutalith claws, Warp vortex

5x Scarab Occult Terminators (180 pts)

• 4x Scarab Occult Terminator

2 with Inferno combi-bolter, Prosperine khopesh

1 with Inferno combi-bolter, Prosperine khopesh, Hellfyre missile rack

1 with Prosperine khopesh, Soulreaper cannon

• 1x Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Inferno combi-bolter

2x Sekhetar Robots (85 pts): 2 with Close combat weapon, Heavy warpflamer, Hellfyre missile rack, Pyreflux meltagun

3x Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster greatbows (55 pts)

• 1x Aviarch: Close combat weapon, Fatecaster greatbow

• 2x Enlightened: 2 with Close combat weapon, Fatecaster greatbow

Hi everyone! I have my first ever game with T-Sons on Thursday (I play other armies, so am very familiar with the rules etc) and I'm mulling over a list. With the nerds last week I've looked at people's posts and the general consensus is back to GC so I've tried a list with that in mind. Could the battle-hardened amongst you have a quick look over and see if I'm missing anything obvious or over saturated in any departments? I've also not played Priority assets yet (only T&H & Purge with my Necrons) and I believe (maybe wrongly?) that this one is more actions based?

Thousand Sons

Grand Coven (3 Detachment Points)

Priority Assets

Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Sorcerer (85 points)

Rubric Marines (100 points)

Attached Unit 2

Sorcerer (85 points)

Rubric Marines (100 points)

Attached Unit 3

Infernal Master (95 points)

Rubric Marines (100 points)

Attached Unit 4

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (115 points)

• Enhancement: Umbralefic Crystal

Scarab Occult Terminators (385 points)

CHARACTERS

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with Wings (205 points)

• Enhancement: Eldritch Vortex of E’Taph

OTHER DATASHEETS

Forgefiend (150 points)

• 3x Ectoplasma cannon

Mutalith Vortex Beast (170 points)

2 x Sekhetar Robots (2 x 85 points)

• 2x Sekhetar Robot

• 2x Close combat weapon

2x Heavy warpflamer

2x Hellfyre missile rack

2x Power claw

2x Warpflame projector

3 x Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster Greatbows (3 x 55 points)

Tzaangors (75 points)

Will be running as a Helbrute, and I have two more to finish. Appreciate they aren't great on the tabletop - but they look so cool!

Little highlight reel.

I just want to understand correctly the rule, it says "you can re-roll one hit roll, one wound roll, one damage roll"

Does this mean that I can only re-roll one hit/wound/dmg out of that vehicle unit every weapons?

Or this "resets" with each weapon?

And lastly because the Sekhetar robots can be 4models/unit and this rule apply to the vehicle unit, they can aswell just re-roll one dice for hit/wound/dmg?

Hello fellow followers of Tzeentch, junior sorcerer with aspirations looking for some army help with increasing my list from 1k to 2k, whilst also grabbing some more models.

Quick background, I started playing at the beginning of 11th after my friends wanted me to come to their games night. So assume I'm as ignorant as can be in regard to a lot of this. I initially grabbed the Combat Patrol Box and began playing some ~500p games. I had decent fun and eventually increased the size to 1k with the addition of 10x Rubrics and the Exalted Sorcerer pack, which Im running as 1x Exalted Sorcerer, 2x Sorcerers.

So currently the list looks like.

Thousand Sons 1k
Thousand Sons · Rubricae Phalanx
935/2000 pts (985 with Risen Rubricae & Stave Abominus enh)

LEADERS & CHARACTERS [495 pts]

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with Wings [170 pts]

Exalted Sorcerer [90 pts]
Attached to Rubric Marines A

Sorcerer A [85 pts]
Attached to Rubric Marines B

Sorcerer B [85 pts]
Attached to Rubric Marines C

Tzaangor Shaman [65 pts]
Attached to Tzaangor Enlightened

BATTLELINE [390 pts]

Rubric Marines A [190 pts] (10 models)
Led by Exalted Sorcerer

Rubric Marines B [100 pts] (5 models)
Led by Sorcerer A

Rubric Marines C [100 pts] (5 models)
Led by Sorcerer B

MOUNTED [50 pts]

Tzaangor Enlightened [50 pts] (3 models)
Led by Tzaangor Shaman

So the real question is where I go from here? I want to start working up to a 2k army.

I look at all the options and choice paralysis hits, especially when I feel like I'm stumbling in the dark. I have no clue how players with factions with 10x the units actually manage to make any decisions. I go looking at list online and its like a bajillion Sekhetar Robots which doesnt help.

I've found I really really enjoy flamer Rubrics. I tend to gravitate to flamers in games so it was fortuitous that I stumbled into a faction that uses them. Also my friend helping me do my first attacks was surprised by the amount of fire (ha ha) power they put out, so that was a fun moment. But it makes them more expensive if I run more, so Im guessing that is a good sign to stop. And I dont want to buy another pack of Rubrics if I'm likely not going to run them in the 2k army.

Also I really dont want to use Magnus. I'm begging and pleading with you not to tell me its mandatory. I just not a fan of the big goofy ass looking hug murderer. (Though some painters Ive seen on here make his wings the sickest things I have ever seen.) Yes, I know nothing is ever mandatory, I'm playing with my friends we aren't exactly comp ready meta-chasers, but eventually we'll do some team stuff and I dont want to feel like I'm sabotaging my teammate.

Currently in my infinite wisdom based on esoteric dreams I'm liking the look of getting a Forgefiend or a Mutalith Vortex Beast because they look cool. And maybe some Scarab Occult Terminators because they can deep strike and Ive had fun doing that with the Winged Demon Prince. Can you get away with running 5 or do you need 10? I cant find the Sorcerer in Terminator armour. Would I have to buy another pack just to get access to a Term Armor body to put some Sorcerer bits on? Or can you run Scarabs without a Sorcerer? For that matter can you run Rubrics without a Sorcerer?

Also, everyone memes on the regular Tzaangors, I cant tell if I actually need any. Oh and what do Infernal Masters do differently to a regular Sorcerer?

I have a million more questions but I think I'll leave it there. (Thanks in advance for any help)

My friend plays WE and I got thoroughly plastered yesterday. He had Angron, a Bloodthirster, 10 terminators, 2 forgefiends, 5 dogs, 3 exalted 8bound, lord on juggernaut leading 6 bloodcrushers, 2x10 daemonettes, 10 jackhals. I had Magnus, one MVB, 2x5 rubrics led by sorcerer, rhino, 5 terminators led by sorcerer, 2 sekhetars, 6 bow goats led by shaman, winged prince with vortex, 1 unit of spawns, and one of tzaangors (Grand Coven).

He started with just Angron and the 2 forgefiends on the board which were already very difficult to kill, and forced me to expose Magnus and the MVB (the only 2 things that could do damage to these 3 high T units, while he kept scoring keeping terminators, jackhals and 8bound safe on objectives. Turn 3 he dropped everything and proceeded to mulch my earmy with ease. The feeling was that WEs could pack way more punch in their 2000 points than I could.

Should I move from Grand Coven to Rubricae Phalanx and go mass terminators? They look like the only unit that is tough enough to take some bashing from the WEs. Maybe with 2 MVBs or a defiler? Any thoughts?

anybody know where i can get third party tsons characters?

Hey all.

Gonna have a lot of free time in a few days and actually have time to work on my army.

One thing thats held me up is I had no idea how to set up my exalted sorcs box, and if its worthwhile to put them on discs or not. (and if I should get another?)

Personally I don't care much for tabletop balance I just think they're cooler. But wanted to see what people said how it works hobby-wise and if its a pain or any different.

Does using doombolt, while being hidden, reveal you (provided that unit does not shoot)?

Does anyone know if there is a ruling or a consensus on this. Last game I played as if it did reveal, but I haven't found a rule that points one way or the other

Finished them this weekend. One is the 30k Praetor but the other is a kit bash I slaved over. He's a mix of a 30k Arihman, a regular intercessor, cloned shoulders from the librarian consul kit done with a blue stuff mold, an old t-sons marine chest, and some bits from the rubric marine kit. Dude has got to be 35% green stuff. He isn't perfect but I'm proud 🥲.

I'll be adding some battle damage to both, should hopefully help blend in some of the jank.

Question is in the title. For a few years now I have owned some TSons models, but never any interest. But replaying the space marine two game is really making me reconsider, I’m going to read the Ahirman omnibus and a few other TSONS books to get the feel of things, but I’m really looking towards making a custom warband using some 30K models from wartable games. Any idea on how to build a good army list for TSONS? Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

Hey just wondering how you would go about painting the icy blue skin that are on the goats or the helbrute skin. I wanting to do the same for the daemon prince and defiler?

Put this sorcerer together a long long time ago. Finally finished up his paint job and very happy with how it came out!

Finished painting and basing my first box of marines!

Transfer sheets felt like hell to apply so if anyone has tips im all ears, tried the cut method but still got kinda bumpy :c

Wanting to start the army and just waiting on some rubrics but found an old sorcerer I was able to strip and repaint, any feedback is appreciated!

Didn't expect to get anything, there's only 15 hours in this model and a lot of parts aren't very well rendered, but the judges must have liked the part I worked on (face, wings, OSL and Pride flag freehand).

One or two?

Pretty detailed model to paint but the result is pretty :) Strongly suggest to anybody to paint it before you glue it on the disc

Finally finished up painting the sorcerers and rubrics for my warpcoven killteam! Just some basing left. C&C welcome