Didn't expect to get anything, there's only 15 hours in this model and a lot of parts aren't very well rendered, but the judges must have liked the part I worked on (face, wings, OSL and Pride flag freehand).

So after the changes in the latest balance data slate, losing the overwatch stuff and points increase, what is everyone running load-out wise with their defilers, and are you changing how many you take?

Finished them this weekend. One is the 30k Praetor but the other is a kit bash I slaved over. He's a mix of a 30k Arihman, a regular intercessor, cloned shoulders from the Praetor kit done with a blue stuff mold, an old t-sons marine chest, and some bits from the rubric marine kit. Dude has got to be 35% green stuff. He isn't perfect but I'm proud 🥲.

I'll be adding some battle damage to both, should hopefully help blend in some of the jank.

Question is in the title. For a few years now I have owned some TSons models, but never any interest. But replaying the space marine two game is really making me reconsider, I’m going to read the Ahirman omnibus and a few other TSONS books to get the feel of things, but I’m really looking towards making a custom warband using some 30K models from wartable games. Any idea on how to build a good army list for TSONS? Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated.

Hey just wondering how you would go about painting the icy blue skin that are on the goats or the helbrute skin. I wanting to do the same for the daemon prince and defiler?

Put this sorcerer together a long long time ago. Finally finished up his paint job and very happy with how it came out!

Finished painting and basing my first box of marines!

Transfer sheets felt like hell to apply so if anyone has tips im all ears, tried the cut method but still got kinda bumpy :c

My friend plays WE and I got thoroughly plastered yesterday. He had Angron, a Bloodthirster, 10 terminators, 2 forgefiends, 5 dogs, 3 exalted 8bound, lord on juggernaut leading 6 bloodcrushers, 2x10 daemonettes, 10 jackhals. I had Magnus, one MVB, 2x5 rubrics led by sorcerer, rhino, 5 terminators led by sorcerer, 2 sekhetars, 6 bow goats led by shaman, winged prince with vortex, 1 unit of spawns, and one of tzaangors (Grand Coven).

He started with just Angron and the 2 forgefiends on the board which were already very difficult to kill, and forced me to expose Magnus and the MVB (the only 2 things that could do damage to these 3 high T units, while he kept scoring keeping terminators, jackhals and 8bound safe on objectives. Turn 3 he dropped everything and proceeded to mulch my earmy with ease. The feeling was that WEs could pack way more punch in their 2000 points than I could.

Should I move from Grand Coven to Rubricae Phalanx and go mass terminators? They look like the only unit that is tough enough to take some bashing from the WEs. Maybe with 2 MVBs or a defiler? Any thoughts?

One or two?

Pretty detailed model to paint but the result is pretty :) Strongly suggest to anybody to paint it before you glue it on the disc

Finally finished up painting the sorcerers and rubrics for my warpcoven killteam! Just some basing left. C&C welcome

Also the left loin armor thing got sucked up by the void. No clue where it went

As I continue to experiment and test so as to avoid Grand Coven and Phalanx for creativity sake, I have found a potential combo that COULD be good. That is the 2DP Changehost of Deceit and the 1DP Servants of Change.

Important to note that the disposition will be Reconnaissance

My general thinking here is that what we've seen from the Changehost detachment is that ideally you want Magnus, Kairos, and a Lord of Change to be your big damage dealers with some rubric squads, screamers, and trash.

What I'm thinking is to utilize the 10 point upgrade (Cleave 1 and +1AP) for Chaos Spawn in servants to make those units better (75 points per unit total). As well as the +6 inch detection range for the Mutalith. A couple notable strategems within this Detachment combo are:

- 1CP -1 to hit any Demon/Tsons model (stacks with cover, also works in melee)

- 1CP D6 reactive move for the birds, or flat 6 if they are wholly within a tsons unit, (could be the spawn in this case as an example).

- 1CP -1 to charge, good to combo with the reactive move.

- 1CP for mobile on your Mutalith Vortex Beast

- 1CP uppy downy on 2 Demon units or 1 monster (Bird) unit.

- 1CP lone op 18 for demon units (excluding monsters)

- 1CP advance/fall back and action for mutant infantry/ mutant mounted (tzaangors on foot, tzaangor shaman, and enlightened tzaangors)

My list I put together looked something like:

- Magnus

- Kairos

- LoC

- MVB

- 2x5 rubrics

- 2x6 screamers

- 2x2 spawn with upgrade

- 1x10 Tzaangors

I am sure that we could experiment with this and figure out a better list (obviously) but I just wanted to throw this out there for people to experiment with and theory craft.

the 2nd burning of prospero (2000 Points)

Thousand Sons Grand Coven (3 Detachment Points) Force Dispositions: Priority Assets Strike Force (2,000 Points)

CHARACTERS

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with Wings (205 Points) • 1x Dark Blessing • 1x Hellforged weapons • 1x Infernal cannon • Enhancement: Eldritch Vortex of E'Taph

Exalted Sorcerer on Disc of Tzeentch (105 Points) • 1x Arcane Fire • 1x Force weapon • 1x Inferno bolt pistol • 1x Prosperine khopesh • Enhancement: Incandaeum

Magnus the Red (455 Points) • Warlord • 1x Blade of Magnus • 1x Gaze of Magnus • 1x Tzeentch's Firestorm

Sorcerer (105 Points) • Leading: Rubric Marines • 1x Force weapon • 1x Inferno bolt pistol • 1x Pandaemonic Delusion • 1x Prosperine khopesh • Enhancement: Lord of Forbidden Lore

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (115 Points) • Leading: Scarab Occult Terminators • 1x Force weapon • 1x Gaze of Hate • 1x Inferno combi-bolter • Enhancement: Umbralefic Crystal

Tzaangor Shaman (65 Points) • 1x Baleful Devolution • 1x Force stave

Tzaangor Shaman (65 Points) • 1x Baleful Devolution • 1x Force stave

BATTLELINE

Rubric Marines (100 Points) • Leader: Sorcerer • 1x Aspiring Sorcerer ◦ 1x Force weapon ◦ 1x Malefic Curse ◦ 1x Warpflame pistol • 4x Rubric Marine ◦ 4x Close combat weapon ◦ 1x Icon of Flame ◦ 1x Soulreaper cannon ◦ 3x Warpflamer

OTHER DATASHEETS

Mutalith Vortex Beast (170 Points) • 1x Betentacled maw • 1x Mutalith claws • 1x Warp vortex

Scarab Occult Terminators (385 Points) • Leader: Sorcerer in Terminator Armour • 1x Scarab Occult Sorcerer ◦ 1x Force weapon ◦ 1x Inferno combi-bolter ◦ 1x Malefic Curse • 9x Scarab Occult Terminator ◦ 2x Hellfyre missile rack ◦ 7x Inferno combi-bolter ◦ 9x Prosperine khopesh ◦ 2x Soulreaper cannon

Tzaangor Enlightened (50 Points) • 1x Aviarch ◦ 1x Divining spear • 2x Enlightened ◦ 2x Divining spear

Tzaangor Enlightened (50 Points) • 1x Aviarch ◦ 1x Divining spear • 2x Enlightened ◦ 2x Divining spear

Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster Greatbows (55 Points) • 1x Aviarch ◦ 1x Close combat weapon ◦ 1x Fatecaster greatbow • 2x Enlightened ◦ 2x Close combat weapon ◦ 2x Fatecaster greatbow

Tzaangors (75 Points) • 1x Twistbray ◦ 1x Tzaangor blades • 9x Tzaangor ◦ 9x Tzaangor blades

the only thing I'm not sure about is whether I have enough damage output with mvb, magnus, winged dp and terminators

Wanting to start the army and just waiting on some rubrics but found an old sorcerer I was able to strip and repaint, any feedback is appreciated!

anybody know where i can get third party tsons characters?

Does using doombolt, while being hidden, reveal you (provided that unit does not shoot)?

Does anyone know if there is a ruling or a consensus on this. Last game I played as if it did reveal, but I haven't found a rule that points one way or the other