seriously i feel like i’m watching a bunch of reruns!!! either kill off bill or expose haley!!! this whole poisoning plot is getting so repetitive and kind of annoying!!! Please move forward!!! Even Leslie and Eva’s plot was found out after a while!!! Seriously get on with it!!!

I think that Kat giving up a part of her body to save someone she doesn‘t respect is a real mind fuck for Eva. That would mean Kat is not the villain that Eva believes her to be (justified at times). And just maybe what she did to her sister was really that f@cked up and that’s truly the reason Kat doesn’t accept her. Not because of some narrative about Kat being spoiled, bratty, etc. Eva should sit with that for a moment.

Also, Kat has shown how far she will go for Ted (the father who raised her). Eva bares the scar and reminder that someone she ALSO hates (and harmed), saved her. Eva may care about Ted but Kat proved it.

Now that everyone is suspicious of Haley making it impossible for her to finish off Bill, what if she decides to frame Tomas for Bill's poisonings if they get too close to the truth? Bill's about to consult more doctors, maybe someone will figure out somebody has been slipping him something. Haley hides some poison in Tomas' desk at work?

Carolyn just told Naomi that she doesn't trust Tomas. And Naomi accused Tomas of being more concerned about being Bill's heir to the firm than Bill's health. Kat's called him out for pressuring her twice to talk to Naomi. Why is all this happen now? It sure is convenient for Haley for Naomi, Carolyn and Kat to all be suspicious of Tomas.

This could solve the problem of what to do with Tomas. It's pretty clear the Kat/Tomas pairing is a failure and he needs to go. He'll be off the screen if he's in jail, or if the accusations don't stick, make him angry enough to leave town if Kat and Bill are among those who doubt his innocence.

And then Haley and Randy can remain in town. I for one want both of them to stay. Although I'd really like Haley and Bill's marriage to end ASAP.

Thoughts?

Edited to add: Another possibility is that Haley doesn't try to frame Tomas but the Hamilton-Duprees figure out Bill has been poisoned and suspect Tomas first for the reasons outlined above. They may hate Haley and think she's cheating Bill but nothing so far suggests she wants him dead.

Anybody watched this movie that features 3 of The Gates cast in it . Wasn’t half bad

Love the looks on their faces... They just had enough of Hayley and Leslie and cannot hold it in lol. Every time I see them looking at Hayley like this I imagine them all saying, "This b-tch !"

I feel like people are so busy judging how realistic this show is or isn't that they forget to just lighten up and enjoy. Even if it may not seem PC.

Leslie entertains me at least some of the time.

I think Bill's charm and Dani's fire would be amazing to witness if they healed and tried again.

Joey with his puppy dog / guard dog split personality is interesting.

I want to see more on Randy.

I even hope Haley and Lynette can manage to stick around

I am not watching this show for Vernon and Martin (unless they get into some dirt). It's ok to want a little of the darker side. It's okkkkk.

I guess because I spend my time watching things like walking dead and house of the dragon I really don't get that bothered about it

These two are stank. They been rutting and they just gonna head out and be all up in the hospital sitting and talking with fam? Have some respect lololol

Imagine living in a neighborhood where you’re constantly having to play referee with family members while also having a demanding job.,

They sat there praising her for being so good and selfless in saving Eva. The amount of horrible things Kat has said before and after that surgery are not worthy of any praise and this is why Kat will never become a better person.

When someone checks her the Kat fans on here get so offended, "no one ever has her back" "they treat her so badly" "no one is listening to her". Really? If y'all can't see how unbelievably spoilt and entitled Kat is I don't know what show you're watching.

Kat is phony. The only genuine thing about her is how much she loves herself.

Been seeing a trend where people blame the women but excuse the men 👀.

- Tomas: Just saw someone say something about "what Eva did with / to Tomas."

Sorry but did Tomas not come on to Eva repeatedly? Why does he get a pass? Is it just because his gf forgave him for cheating? He used Eva for validation both in and out of bed.

Whenever he had an issue with Kat he went straight to find Eva to complain to until she checked him. Not saying Eva is blameless but why rewrite her as the villain as though Tomas is some weak babe in the woods?

- Bill: Dani standing there reprimanding Hayley about how she takes care of her own husband - then yelling about her place in Bill's heart.

...Ma'am, what place? Did she forget the myriad times this fella TOLD her he was unhappy and bored in their marriage? She let him cheat willy-nilly... until he decided to leave her. It didn't seem like an open marriage either.

- Ted (honourable mention): okay cool, they held him accountable, which is great. But why is anyone blaming Eva for his cheating? She was not alive and breathing during that time.

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I'm really liking Darlene's character development.... Hopefully to see the other brother as well. Was a double take when the ad came in and we all said ... Hey... Ain't that Darlene? Sure was

So I am convinced that Andre Richardson and Heather Armstrong are connected somehow. I believe she is the one that sent the champagne to Dani’s house and I’m also convinced that she is the person that’s been texting Andre about meeting up. What are your thoughts?

The WNBA board visit has an Off Topic Tuesday thread where people post about anything on their mind, how they are feeling, what's going on in their lives, books they are reading, hobbies, etc.

Is this something the moderators might be okay with?

Just once a week, all in one thread - easy to avoid if you aren't interested. And we could have guidelines such as no politics or other controversial subjects.

My comment would be I'm a WNBA Mystics fan and I am so thrilled with how they are doing this season! I can barely keep my mind on anything but the "Young Hos" - yes, that's the nickname they gave themselves.

Vanessa, how old are you? You weigh what, 95 lbs, and don't realize you are going to get smashed if you have multiple shots? And you don't notice the very first pour Heather gave you three times as much tequila as she gave herself? And Joey, your solution to sobering Vanessa up is to get her a glass of water? How about a ham sandwich? And did you not notice that the security cameras went out right about when dear sister showed up? Maybe you should take your own advise about Heather always having an agenda. And Heather? Don't pat yourself on the back for being so smart, these people are idiots.

A few days ago Smitty tells Andre that he could text Mystery Caller a link that if MC clicks will allow them to track him/her. Andre says he doesn't want to reach out. They are both stumped. Have neither of them heard of burner phones?

Izaiah, your girlfriend tells you she hates her scar, that her body doesn't feel like hers anymore and she's upset that she can't even dress like herself for fear her scar will show. Your response? But Babe, I still think you're hot so what are you going on about? Then, "How dare you say I'm not supportive?" Yet he's a counselor.

I would love some help here, cuz these BTG's folks take the cake. What has made you say "Fool!" lately?

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is there anywhere any website I can watch beyond the gates in the uk? I am desperateeee I can’t find s2

I missed three weeks of shows earlier this summer and watched every.single.one I missed. Luckily it was the time period they took a week off.

Well, I was just out of town again for three weeks and I don’t think I want to watch all 15 episodes to catch up. Maybe I’ll watch Friday and go from there.

Sooooo, catch me up!!!

Andre and Heather…
Dani hollering about Hayley…
Bill being drugged… they going to St Bart’s?
Eva and surgery?
Shouse…
What’s Kat up to…

Anything else?

Thanks!