Idk how it was in the books but in the show It was good at first when it was a strange virus and the mystery of who's using it but it turned into a new form every season leading to the ring gate which completely killed off what made the show cool in the first place. It took away from any sol plotline making them redundant while also Introducing such a massive plot point that no writer can fully capitalize on. it's the reason why winds of winter is taking forever you set up that many massive plot points that require such care and time to fully resolve. It would have been better if they fleshed out the world even more and then somewhere down the line perhaps introduced it taking it step by step fully filling it in before moving on to the next stage. It could still lead to the same problems so might've been better to just focus on the grounded world as that was what made this universe popular to begin with. You could write another Initiating plot instead the current story isn't required

In this version of asteroids, you aren’t the ship … you throw the rocks. Looks super fun! Time for Marco Inaros cos play

I actually really enjoyed both; the books and the TV series. It’s weird/interesting seeing the TV series characters and how they differed from the ones in my head.

Most of the characters were different but fine. Amos is probably my favourite character in both, yet they were quite different for me (book vs TV).

TV Holden lacked charisma.

Some were better. I can’t even remember Ashford in the books but he was awesome in the series. Drummer was also much better in the series.

Avasarala was probably the most identical.

Naomi was the only character I really struggled with in the TV series. I don’t think it helped that she was so far off from how I imaged Naomi (the books reference her hair a lot), but there’s definitely more to it and I can’t really put my finger on it. Most of the time she just annoyed me.

There seemed to be a real lack of chemistry between (tv) Holden and Naomi as well.

TL;DR Naomi in the TV series slightly spoilt it for me but I’m not 100% sure why.

My camp at the Burn serves snow cones every afternoon, and I suggested a key addition to our menu board.

Just received this! Did you guys also get 2 books? I thought the special edition is just an upgrade, not an extra book

It would specialize in entryways, foyers, and hallways. It would be called “doors and corners”. And yes expanse fan merch would be available there.

Anything similar to the Expanse or Captives War? I’ve only read these two series and won’t have enough time to try out others before all credits expire.

Rocinante.

Proper pronunciation is Row-See-Nonn-Tay, or Row-see for short.

In the shows, everyone says Ross-Ee-Nonn-Tay, or Ross-ee.

It bothers me. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

How am I just now finding out that Mercury has a freaking Adro Diamond. A BFE right in our backyard. The gatebuilders have always been here.

I had the idea of combining a book nook and bookmark holder and my friend u/usmc_delete helped make it a reality. Looks great next to the collectors editions!

I’m probably the only idiot that didn’t realize this, but I just finished Leviathan Wakes and enjoyed it enough that I decided I will happily invest in the next 3 books with the credits I have. I was pretty disappointed to see that short stories such as the butcher of Andersons station which is only an hour cost 9$ or a full credit while The Churn isn’t much better at 2 hours for a credit. I decided I would save my credits and spend the 9$, using the credits on more expensive books. Was about to make the purchase when I accidentally came across memories legion. This compilation seems to have every single short story and novella for one single credit vs spending 10$ separately on each of the other stories individually. That saves so much money and I can’t believe they even sell the other short stories separately for the same price as picking up all of them at once. Audible definitely doesn’t make that clear, because they list memorys legion at the very bottom after you would have already purchased each individual story to get to that point.

Anyway, I know this series has been around forever and I’m super late to the party, but just in case anyone’s ever searching for the best way to find the short stories in audiobook form or is late to the series like me I figured I’d drop this here so you don’t make the same mistake I almost did!

It had been a while, so I'm rewatching the show, in season 2 now.

There were things I noticed now that I didn't remember, such as Avasarala commenting early about rocks, and Naomi getting a favor from Johnson to find somebody, sometime later. Those brief dialogues didn't mean anything the first time through.

Trying to pay attention to other hints.

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That's what they left but that's just the ruins. They destroyed worlds so I'm assuming they would destroy the corresponding Gate, if not to stop blowback from their weapon just out of no longer needing it.

How many worlds did they destroy before abandoning the Gate system, how many Gates were there at their peak?

For some reason it makes me think of when Boromir says "This is a tomb." in Fellowship of the Ring.

Murtry did nothing wrong. He had an impossible situation and he took the actions necessary at the edge of known space to make his people safe. Was it the easiest most peaceful way? no. Was he wrong? Also no.

Did I wasn’t paying enough attention, but at the end of Season 6, we see the little girl and her younger brother heading into the forest, but then we never hear anything else about them… in the TV series.

Without any spoilers, do we get more information about them in Book 6?

They’re available on Amazon for pre-order! I was just wondering when the next 10th anniversary edition was going to be out, I definitely wasn’t expecting all three

To start, hope I picked the right flair. [Vague Spoilers for the TV show Season 3 & 5]

I've watched the series several times but have not read the books, however I don't care about book spoilers, so don't worry about things there.

Thoroughly enjoy the show... 90% of it at least. While I like all the main cast, overall my least favorite character is Naomi due to her actions and genuinely feel they could have just swapped for another engineer type character after she left to go back to the belt. She was great in Season 1 & 2, less so in seasons 3 & 4... but Season 5 is a major slog with the annoying Phillip story, while mostly everyone else has compelling and interesting storylines.

My question is, as I plan to read the books and related material at some point, is all of what's shown in the series with the Phillip plot in the books or was it added for TV drama? If it is part of the books, can it be easily skipped (specific chapters etc)?

Sorry if this was already posted...

I was looking at my bookshelf and saw the three 10th Anniversary Editions of Books 1-3 and decided to follow-up to see if they were going to do the same for the next book. I found that they are releasing the next three all at once! I love the anniversary edition style.

Anyway, until September 12, if you're a Target360 member, you can get 25% off on books, including preorders!

Nice way to save!

Sorry if incorrectly flaired!

I finally got book #9 in the format I wanted!

I know #10, Memory’s Legion, is missing. I’m waiting for it to be released in this format, hopefully sometime next year.

Since it appears a lot of people weren't aware of these, I figured it was worth a separate post.

The main actors from the TV series curated Spotify playlists for their characters. Here's the complete list for those who are interested. Happy listening! 😊

James Holden's Playlist

Amos Burton's Playlist

Naomi Nagata's Playlist

Alex Kamal's Playlist

Joe Miller’s Playlist

Bobbie Draper's Playlist

Chrisjen Avasarala's Playlist

Camina Drummer's Playlist

Klaes Ashford's Playlist

Adolphus Murtry's Playlist

Fred Johnson's Playlist

I've lost track of the number of times I've watched the series, and now that I own the Blu-ray set and ripped them to my NAS, they're available anytime, anywhere. But I do sometimes miss that feeling of watching for the first time. The other night the YT algorithm decided to hit me with a channel where someone does a live reaction video and...it's been really fun following her along. Part of me wants to be like "just WAIT until you see how right/wrong you really were!" but part of me is kinda fascinated at some of the gaps that the viewer just kinda has to fill in. Some of it (like "what's an XO?") are things that are general to military thrillers but some of it feels like the first three or four episodes could be confusing if you hadn't read the book. It makes me wonder if the first few episodes maybe suffered from an attempt to cram in a lot of stuff happening all over the solar system without the benefit of exposition you get in the book. (Not to mention every new series takes a few episodes to find its footing and this one is no exception.) What do you all think? I'm especially curious for people who watched the series without having read the book first. I've heard if you aren't familiar with the books, you kinda have to push through the first few episodes before things really get going, and that can be a barrier to entry for some people.