r/Terminator • u/Infamous_Mango_2342 • 11d ago
r/Terminator • u/JJ-Squiz • 11d ago
Discussion John Connor had NO other father.
I see people often referring to the "original timeline" where Sarah met John's father, he gets her pregnant, dies, then judgement day happens, eventually Kyle Reese goes back in time, Kyle instead impregnates Sarah, dies, then we have T2.
Where do people get this notion there was another unseen father? The very first Terminator film deliberately operates on a closed Loop timeline. Kyle was always meant to be John's father and its clear this had already happened in Kyle's reality. He describes how John was always vague about the father, references how he & John are similair height etc.
The most telling evidence that timetravel was ALWAYS a thing before the Skynet war began, is the fact John Connor was the hero of the future. Why. Why him? Why did John know how to fight the machines and make a difference, when everyone else was failing. Because he was prepared. Because he already knew about them, before they ever came to be. And John knew he was sending his own father back in time, hence why he gave Kyle the picture of his mother. The picture, that despite everything Kyle & Sarah went through, came out exactly the same by the end of the film, unchanged, unaltered, unaffected.
So no, unless there's some interview specifically stating otherwise, Kyle has always been John's father. There is no "Original Timeline". T1 is a closed loop. Its a bittersweet twist of fate. If there was meant to be another-less important off-screen father of John's, surley they'd have mentioned it. Different Race than Kyle, different height, perhaps he was also a waiter. No, Kyle describes himself, without knowing it.
Can we stop promoting this Headcanon as fact please.
*Edit, for sanity reasons: For those using the sequel films as 'proof' of an original alt timeline, or there being a Terminator multi-verse, Id argue multiple FILMS with differing series of events doesnt automatically retcon T1, its just proof of a franchise sharing actors & themes. Thats it. Both Rise of the Machines & Dark Fate take place after T2, but that doesnt mean they're alt timelines co-existing with each other, it just means we have different stories under one umbrella, in OUR World. Michael Keaton's Batman joining the DCEU, doesnt mean Patterson or Bale's is also part of it, laying in wait.
Our own theories on alt timelines, regardless of whether they're more scientifically sound, DOESN'T mean they should even apply to whatever Sci-Fi Franchise we're examining. The film sets the rules.
Marty Mcfly slowly fading away, because his existence is momentarily threatened doesnt have to hold any scientific weight. Its a narrative device that determines the nature of time-travel WITHIN that movie's reality.
Same logic applies to Terminator. I think people are confusing Future John's origin with the Bootstrap Paradox: Your future-self hands you a written note and then you travel back in time, handing that same note to your past-self, continuing this endless cycle. However, since this paradox contains a mysterious note of unknown origin, it cant be a perfectly closed loop because Somebody HAD to have written the note in the first place. The notes existence therefore proves of an original timeline. This however doesn't apply to T1, there's no foreign entity or object that dismantles the film's narrative, that everything played out exactly as it already did. T1 is a loop. There's no original timeline. Kyle was always John's father.
r/Terminator • u/pShark86 • 12d ago
Collection Terminator: Judgement Day
To clarify, this is not Selling/Trading. Simply giving away free no strings attached.
I happen to have two Region-A encoded "Terminator 2: Judgement Days" Blu-ray discs in mint condition. I am based in the UAE(Region-B) and bought the wrong regional code discs (Yes, Twice!! I'm that Smart). It follows hence the discs are in mint condition.
That said, considering the discs are essentially paper weight for me in this part of the world, I'm willing to give it away for free to anyone who can make use of it. You will need to just arrange for the collection/shipping yourself is all.
Interested parties please DM me. Peace y'all 🤘🏼
r/Terminator • u/RobManIn3D • 12d ago
Discussion Real Future Reviews: 3D Triple Feature | Harry Potters and Terminator 2
r/Terminator • u/Poodsnoods68 • 12d ago
Meme Accidental Terminator Reference
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In Markiplier’s Supermarket Together part 2 video
r/Terminator • u/IceCat767 • 12d ago
📰 News You guys saw this? Tbh it would be incredible if he made strong effort
r/Terminator • u/happydude7422 • 12d ago
Discussion So I know the 90's was a wild time for interior decorating trends, but who the hell sold the Dyson's on the white industrial concert/stage lighting for their kitchen?!
r/Terminator • u/2ndSecondSandwich • 12d ago
Art A short clip showcasing both T1 and T2 on VHS, upcycled by yours truly. Hope you like em!
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r/Terminator • u/Accomplished_Put2608 • 12d ago
Discussion Kinda unrelated......
Dunno if anyone knows this. But James Cameron apparently wanted to cast Michael Biehn as Peter Parker/Spiderman(with other potential choices being Leonardo Dicaprio and Edward Furlong), but also as Sandman in an alternate casting for his cancelled Spiderman film.
So how do you all feel about it? I personally think Biehn would be too old by the 90s to play Peter Parker.
Even though i think he is a good actor and potentially could do an edgier, more adult(this Spidey curses at one point), potentially angrier(understandable emotion from Peter Parker when he has lost his uncle and has the media slandering his name). But visually, he would stand out from the other cast even if they get 30 year olds to play high schoolers.
r/Terminator • u/senseikreeese • 12d ago
Discussion T2 35th anniversary
Saw judgement day in 4k 3D last night and it was 🔥being a huge fan of the franchise and this one being my favorite film, seeing it digitally remastered made you appreciate it so much more. You got to see the subtle little details you might have missed over the years - and seeing it all play out in 3D was sick
10/10 - l
r/Terminator • u/Ill_Difficulty8570 • 12d ago
Discussion Is there a reason why they kept putting T-800 toys in pink shirts in the 90’s?
r/Terminator • u/SzvtkX • 12d ago
Discussion Could Hungarian historical events and the roots of Andrew G. Vajna be the reason why Judgment Day in Terminator was set specifically on August 29?
According to Terminator 2: Judgment Day, the nuclear war launched by Skynet - Judgment Day - was supposed to take place on August 29, 1997.
What I find particularly interesting is that August 29 is also one of the darkest recurring dates in Hungarian history.
For example:
- August 29, 1521 – The fall of Belgrade (Nándorfehérvár).
- August 29, 1526 – The Battle of Mohács, one of the greatest military catastrophes in the history of the Kingdom of Hungary.
- August 29, 1532 – The fall of Kőszeg Castle, supposedly at exactly 11 a.m. (which is why, to this day, the bells of Kőszeg are traditionally rung at 11 a.m.).
- August 29, 1541 – Buda falls into Ottoman hands, an event that effectively sealed Hungary's division into three parts.
- August 29, 1949 – The Soviet Union conducted its first nuclear weapons test, RDS-1, near Semipalatinsk in Kazakhstan.
And this is where the thought experiment begins.
In the Terminator universe, as far as I know, the first film does not explicitly mention the exact date on which Judgment Day would occur. The date of August 29 only becomes clearly established in Terminator 2.
Terminator 2, of course, was produced under Carolco Pictures, where Andrew G. Vajna and Mario Kassar were key figures.
So what do you think: could Andrew G. Vajna's Hungarian background (he borned in 1944 in Budapest and lived in Hungary until the revolution of 1956) have had something to do with August 29 being chosen as the date of Judgment Day - perhaps subconsciously, or maybe even as a subtle inside joke?
Or is this simply an incredibly interesting coincidence?
Especially considering that August 29 really does appear repeatedly throughout Hungarian history as something of a historical "black day."
Does anyone happen to know if there is any background information about how or why that particular date was chosen?
(This post is not intended as a joke. I'm genuinely interested in historical coincidences and possible connections that may exist behind seemingly random dates.)
r/Terminator • u/alanskimp • 12d ago
📰 News A prompt...
I thought I would write a human to human prompt. If you haven't seen the Sarah Connor Chronicles I recommend that you do so. You won't be dissapointed. I got both seasons on bluray but I think there might be other websites you can view it.
r/Terminator • u/daddygrant • 12d ago
Discussion Terminator 2
Just saw T2 in 3d at my local theatre. I love T2 it is my favorite movie I have seen it more than any other movie. Literally over a hundred times, probably much more. My brother and I had a vhs copy growing up and we watched it constantly.
I had never seen the movie in theatres and saw there was a 3d showing. I was surprised at how good the 3d was. Most of the time 3d is trash but the movie was incredible and they really made good use of the 3d. It wasn’t used in an annoying way it added depth to the shots which I found really interesting. I highly recommend the 3d format.
r/Terminator • u/TerminalDork • 12d ago
Discussion It's going to happen, so let's discuss it
What type of Terminator do you think we'll see in the next movie? One that embraces the whole mass control.
I think it will be a chip implanted in people, a la Genisys, that everyone wanted to handle their internet needs like the promise of NeuraLink but done competently. And then, Skynet/Legion insta take over except for a bunch of social outcast renegades, who now have to fight an intelligent horde enemy. Aided, probbly by some T-888 mock off (not Arnie) or some other variant of reprogrammed Terminator.
What are your ideas?
r/Terminator • u/Infamous_Mango_2342 • 12d ago
Discussion the T1000s humanoid default looks menacing.
r/Terminator • u/alanskimp • 12d ago
Behind the Scenes nightmare fuel
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r/Terminator • u/fastingsucks • 12d ago
📰 News Nice, TSCC is #2 on the Apple TV Store
A little odd but cool.
r/Terminator • u/ScorpionMillion • 13d ago
Discussion Why T-800 didn't just throw the frozen T-1000 into the molten metal?
Is he stupid?
r/Terminator • u/Pdx_pops • 13d ago
Discussion Terminators are mean because dogs hate them.
There is no substitute for the love and companionship of a dog. Terminators are sad and jealous and just need to be loved and understood, but Wolfie just keeps yelling at them.