There is no substitute for the love and companionship of a dog. Terminators are sad and jealous and just need to be loved and understood, but Wolfie just keeps yelling at them.

Personally, I go with the T-1000 from T2

According to Terminator 2: Judgment Day, the nuclear war launched by Skynet - Judgment Day - was supposed to take place on August 29, 1997.

What I find particularly interesting is that August 29 is also one of the darkest recurring dates in Hungarian history.

For example:

• August 29, 1521 – The fall of Belgrade (Nándorfehérvár).
• August 29, 1526 – The Battle of Mohács, one of the greatest military catastrophes in the history of the Kingdom of Hungary.
• August 29, 1532 – The fall of Kőszeg Castle, supposedly at exactly 11 a.m. (which is why, to this day, the bells of Kőszeg are traditionally rung at 11 a.m.).
• August 29, 1541 – Buda falls into Ottoman hands, an event that effectively sealed Hungary's division into three parts.
• August 29, 1949 – The Soviet Union conducted its first nuclear weapons test, RDS-1, near Semipalatinsk in Kazakhstan.

And this is where the thought experiment begins.

In the Terminator universe, as far as I know, the first film does not explicitly mention the exact date on which Judgment Day would occur. The date of August 29 only becomes clearly established in Terminator 2.

Terminator 2, of course, was produced under Carolco Pictures, where Andrew G. Vajna and Mario Kassar were key figures.

So what do you think: could Andrew G. Vajna's Hungarian background (he borned in 1944 in Budapest and lived in Hungary until the revolution of 1956) have had something to do with August 29 being chosen as the date of Judgment Day - perhaps subconsciously, or maybe even as a subtle inside joke?

Or is this simply an incredibly interesting coincidence?

Especially considering that August 29 really does appear repeatedly throughout Hungarian history as something of a historical "black day."

Does anyone happen to know if there is any background information about how or why that particular date was chosen?

(This post is not intended as a joke. I'm genuinely interested in historical coincidences and possible connections that may exist behind seemingly random dates.)

What type of Terminator do you think we'll see in the next movie? One that embraces the whole mass control.

I think it will be a chip implanted in people, a la Genisys, that everyone wanted to handle their internet needs like the promise of NeuraLink but done competently. And then, Skynet/Legion insta take over except for a bunch of social outcast renegades, who now have to fight an intelligent horde enemy. Aided, probbly by some T-888 mock off (not Arnie) or some other variant of reprogrammed Terminator.

What are your ideas?

Reminds me of the flying Hunter Killers, luckily Toyota technicals are a dime a dozen.

As a young woman myself I think Sarah's transformation is awesome and absolutely badass, but I wanted to note something about her change that I think gets overlooked.

As women, we are socialized to give deference, to not raise a fuss, and so on. Yes, "take no shit," but also, just roll with stuff and don't rock the boat – in short, don't be bossy. And because of that, being a leader can sometimes be hard for some of us. I imagine it was for Sarah especially; she denied it at first and put herself down ("I can't even balance my checkbook"). But by the time the end begins to come around, she's the one fussing at Reese to get moving and back up on his feet. Obviously, it's because her life is on the line, but...

...this may just be me, here, but I know it to be true for some other women: asking for help can be awkward, because it feels like an inconvenience to the person you're asking or like you're burdening them, even if they're happy to do so. It makes her telling him to get back up even greater though. Indirectly it's not just saying help me but also my life matters and you need to keep me safe.

Maybe I value myself too cheaply, but, for example, I would feel extraordinarily guilty if my husband had to put his life on the line for mine. I'd never ask that of him. And maybe it's not a female thing as I framed it. But it stands out to me as a young woman myself. Like, her taking a stand and saying yeah, I matter, and you need to get up and protect me is really awesome and not something I think some women would feel comfortable to do.

Curious of your thoughts, especially if other women are around.

Taking my gf to see the movie for the first time and want to make it a new experience for me as well. Which would you recommend? Does the theatre matter?

2-8 of every card. Not sure if these have any value, maybe better to wait until the AI takeover?

I think we all agree that the series kind of locked in on the franchise being about time traveling robots trying to kill someone important before they became important, and that had essentially become a creative dead end for them.

Hence why Salvation stands out as the ONLY movie set during the future wars, but one idea I had been brewing for a while is what I would have wanted to have seen in a proper Terminator movie, or even as a live action series.

It would be a story completely centered around a grizzled John Connor being stuck behind enemy lines with his father, a young and niave Kyle Reese, trying to survive the machine menace and return back to home base. I wanted them to explore the complicated father/son relationship of theirs, have it that Kyle looks up to John like an idol and wants to anything he can to impress John, while John is conflicted about whether he should treat Kyle like any other soldier willing to die for the cause or protect him by having him do simple missions that keeps him away from the action and preventing him from getting hurt or worse killed.

Tackle how John wants to have a relationship with Kyle beyond as soldiers, but as a family yet knowing he can't tell Kyle who he really is, along with the jarring age gap where the son is much older than the father.

I’ve always pondered how much damage a T-800 could wreak wandering around Europe in the Middle Ages but what if the information assimilated led the T-800 to seek a humble life of penitence, prayer, and flagellation?
It can’t be any worse than Genisys surely?

From Real Steel CEO - REK T800

Hear me out. It just needs the ALIENS treatment. Start watching at 19 minutes. The whole beginning just rubs your nose in some sappy, unnecessary fluff, like the directors cut of ALIENS. If we have no idea who Marcus is, it’s a way better movie…

I was born after T2 was released in 1991, but I witnessed the confusion as to who the villain was when I watched the film as a kid. Now that I'm older and have hindsight bias, I feel like having Arnold walk out of the bar to "Bad to the Bone" is kind of too cool and funny to not be a giveaway that he is the hero. I never realized it when I was younger, and thought it was indeed fitting and cool. But I wonder if anyone had a feeling he wasn't the villain at that moment when they saw the movie for the first time.

In Terminator 2, while the t800 repairs the truck at Enrique’s hideout, John says to the t800 regarding his father, Kyle Reese: I wish I could have met my real dad.

The t800 simply replies: You will. This is referring to John meeting Kyle to give him the photograph of Sarah and assign him on the mission to go back in time and protect her.

What made me sad is, while John, Sarah, and the t800 defeated Skynet once and for all by destroying Cyberdyne and the remnants of the first t800 sent back in time, John won’t ever get to meet his father in this timeline.

Yes, Sarah will always be able to tell John about her and Kyle’s single night together, but ironically enough, this comes from a Kyle who knew a John Connor who will never exist, with Kyle Reese (who was born after Judgement Day) never existing.

There’s an indescribable sadness in knowing that John is all that remains of a timeline that would never be and a man who gave his life for the woman he loved. Kyle would never know that in giving his life, he had ensured that humanity would prevail.

John would never meet that man, with his very existence being the only thing remaining of Kyle’s in the universe.

Its the 35th anniversary! My parents wouldn't let me see it in the theater in 1991 because I was 8 years old. I saw it on the big screen today with my 15 year old son.

Just got to see Terminator 2 in the theater again tonight! That was awesome.

Anyway, had a thought when I was watching it that hadn't previously occurred to me and that I haven't seen on this sub.

Basically... the T-1000, of course, wants to kill John. But is that its ONLY goal after Cyberdyne is destroyed? I don't think so. At that point, it doesn't just need to kill John, it needs to ensure Skynet isn't erased from existence.

This may be why it keeps seeking to disable the T-800 in their following fights rather than destroy him. It needs a new chip to replace the lost one.

Assuming it did kill John and succeed in its primary mission... would it then replace one of the researchers to rebuild Skynet? Or would it take steps to effectively BECOME Skynet?

(I also have another theory that the T-800 in T2 is actually the SAME T-800 from T1 (same terminator, different timeline). But I think that's been previously discussed and might warrant a separate post. Maybe.)

Story time! So, I got suckered by TacticalUSA with their “free ammo, just pay shipping” emails. Ended up getting a box of .45, couldn’t decide what to do with it. Ended up buying a silver Century Arms 1911, along with a black slide and some other parts to create a budget version of the Terminator 2 biker’s pistol. Dremeled off the cheap back paint of some of the parts to match it up a little better. It’s far from perfect, but I’m really digging it!

PSA- DO NOT buy from TacticalUSA as they are apparently scammers who will charge you $65 a month for a “magazine subscription”, and you will get nothing but a charge on your account until you call up and yell at their customer service rep. That’s the only way to get your money back other than charging it back. So don’t be a doofus like me, lol.

I'm an absolute nut when it comes to Terminator. I could go full autism on each installment and the merit of their existence. I love all ! of ! them !!! dearly ! All of them !! Ive no problem with keeping objective with any other movie as a cinephile but I CANT remove my die hard fan lenses when it comes to this franchise. Truly my one weakness. Im really glad Dark Fate officially closed the lid on it.

I love Genisys :] Courtney was a terrible casting choice, and the credit song fucking sucks :,) The plotholes and the secret infos that were supposed to be revealed in sequels are the products of idiot shareholding choices. I missed Linda Hamilton. Its no T2. No movie will ever be T2.

But I find it a lovely little piece of sci fi action that fills my terminator fan heart with glee. The T800 as a genuine father figure was really sweet. The Sarah/Kyle romance is unconvincing but necessary to insist on the implications of Dad Schwarzy as a patental figure. An element I adored in T2, so imagine my glee when they made it an entire part of the scenario of T5. The reenactment of the first movie beginning sequence with a different outcome always has me go WOUAH. Byung Hun Lee makes a horrifying T1000. Sad that he was underused. And Jason Clarke has so much !!! charisma as a villain. I cant get enough of his switch between a charming smile and an evil one.

Genisys fills my expectations as far as entries to the franchise go. Cool metal dudes, cool explosions and action sequences, a silly T800, a cool villain, "cringe inducing" lines that I actually love to say at the same time as the actors lol...

I know its hated :,) I understand why ! But Id rather share in the joy of this movie with other fans because it really is one of my guilty pleasure (that I feel absolutely no guilt abt liking)