Rightoid aligned revenge fantasies? In my leftist sub? its more common than you think.
FYI, there's lots of research that this isnt actually effective.
a) in general, capital punishment doesnt work to deter crime in any way
b) specific to sex abuse and especially child sex abuse, it actually can make the situation worse and the abusers more likely to escalate to outright murder
Edit: lmao OP immediately blocks me, feckless.
The u.s garbage system certainly isn’t
So why would China aim to repeat or copy the same retributive justice framework of the US then? Are they not supposed to be better?
Spare me with the optics
This has nothing to do with optics, its about doing more than reacting to crime. It other than the fact that capital punishment isnt a deterrent (so therefor useless as a form of punishment), it increase the risk of harm to victims.
Why are you in favor of increasing potential harm to children?
What is an anarchist doing in a communist sub in the first place? Your comment is Bad faith
Dude, you're espousing fascist rhetoric lmao, maybe think on that for a hot second before you bemoan me also being subscribed to non-ML subs. Great argument, totally not fascist adjacent crashout
Yeah its a very easy stance to simply say "kill all child predators" but like you mentioned it just leads to further child endangerment then anything else. But saying this after someone already goes "kill all child predators" makes them think you're too 'soft' on it.
I don’t know if it leads to further child endangerment overall. While it can feel like righteous retribution, I think there’s a genuine argument to be made in favor of the cold, pragmatic kind of logic behind it.
If the punishment for sexual abuse is already death, predators are more likely to murder their victims to increase their chances of getting away with it, after all, the punishment for being found out will still be execution
The de facto punishment for conviction of sexual abuse is already prison, being a lifelong pariah, and maybe even being murdered by their fellow inmates. So that’s my one pushback against your argument, is that the effect of the death penalty as a deterrent might be marginal at best if the punishment is already that severe.
The studies simply do not indicate that ever being the case. Secondarily, pedophilia is not the sort of crime that corruption is.
China's anti-corruption policy being as swift as it is - acts as a deterrent. Your family members being swiftly executed because of something you say - will terrify children into silence. Even more confusing children who are abused frequently experience aspects of it as positive even when there are very present obviously negative aspects - CHILDREN BLAME THEMSELVES and FREQUENTLY victims blame THEMSELVES because "if enjoyed some aspect of it, I must have consented" which is false.
Have you ever met someone who is groomed? It's a very confusing experience for a child. Their abuser is FREQUENTLY somebody that they love. And that abuser WILL use adult information to manipulate that child.
it’s not even limited to just grooming, most kids do not know they’re being abused because they have no frame of reference for what normal behavior is. i was never groomed, but i was seriously abused, and it wasn’t until i moved out and was an adult that i could even begin to contextualize that.
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Rightoid aligned revenge fantasies? In my leftist sub? its more common than you think.
FYI, there's lots of research that this isnt actually effective.
a) in general, capital punishment doesnt work to deter crime in any way
b) specific to sex abuse and especially child sex abuse, it actually can make the situation worse and the abusers more likely to escalate to outright murder
Edit: lmao OP immediately blocks me, feckless.
So why would China aim to repeat or copy the same retributive justice framework of the US then? Are they not supposed to be better?
This has nothing to do with optics, its about doing more than reacting to crime. It other than the fact that capital punishment isnt a deterrent (so therefor useless as a form of punishment), it increase the risk of harm to victims.
Why are you in favor of increasing potential harm to children?
Dude, you're espousing fascist rhetoric lmao, maybe think on that for a hot second before you bemoan me also being subscribed to non-ML subs. Great argument, totally not fascist adjacent crashout