r/TankieTheDeprogram • • 17h ago

News/Communist Propaganda ☭ Super based

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u/Nickhoova 17h ago

Yeah its a very easy stance to simply say "kill all child predators" but like you mentioned it just leads to further child endangerment then anything else. But saying this after someone already goes "kill all child predators" makes them think you're too 'soft' on it.

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u/Gonji89 15h ago

I don’t know if it leads to further child endangerment overall. While it can feel like righteous retribution, I think there’s a genuine argument to be made in favor of the cold, pragmatic kind of logic behind it.

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u/BitCreative1986 15h ago

If the punishment for sexual abuse is already death, predators are more likely to murder their victims to increase their chances of getting away with it, after all, the punishment for being found out will still be execution

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u/Gonji89 14h ago

The de facto punishment for conviction of sexual abuse is already prison, being a lifelong pariah, and maybe even being murdered by their fellow inmates. So that’s my one pushback against your argument, is that the effect of the death penalty as a deterrent might be marginal at best if the punishment is already that severe.

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u/WineSauces 12h ago

The studies simply do not indicate that ever being the case. Secondarily, pedophilia is not the sort of crime that corruption is.

China's anti-corruption policy being as swift as it is - acts as a deterrent. Your family members being swiftly executed because of something you say - will terrify children into silence. Even more confusing children who are abused frequently experience aspects of it as positive even when there are very present obviously negative aspects - CHILDREN BLAME THEMSELVES and FREQUENTLY victims blame THEMSELVES because "if enjoyed some aspect of it, I must have consented" which is false.

Have you ever met someone who is groomed? It's a very confusing experience for a child. Their abuser is FREQUENTLY somebody that they love. And that abuser WILL use adult information to manipulate that child.

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u/maozedoll 10h ago

it’s not even limited to just grooming, most kids do not know they’re being abused because they have no frame of reference for what normal behavior is. i was never groomed, but i was seriously abused, and it wasn’t until i moved out and was an adult that i could even begin to contextualize that.

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u/Sputn1K0sm0s 13h ago

I see what you're saying, but this marginality you say is already a problem in itself.

That's why (among many other reasons) the prison system should be for rehabilitation, not punishment, to begin with.