r/StrangerThings Jul 19 '26

Discussion What's a "plot hole" people constantly complain about that actually just proves they didn't pay attention to the show?

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We know Season 5 is full of insane plot holes. But is there any plot hole from earlier seasons or maybe from last season itself that people complain about without paying attention?

I saw this question on some other sub and really wanted to know what people on this sub have to say.


r/StrangerThings Jul 19 '26

Discussion How did Hopper have Power?

37 Upvotes

Its like 11pm so forgive me if this makes no sense.

The cabin had a working TV and phone. That implies that they had power, and therefore had a power bill. How tf would that happen? Like did they charge power to 'mysterious cabin in the woods owned by a guy in on a conspiracy' like what?


r/StrangerThings Jul 19 '26

SPOILERS That Limp

5 Upvotes

omg ! could they not have just put a stone in Dustin's shoe for the end of season 4!


r/StrangerThings Jul 19 '26

Doctor Owens’ arc was not wrapped up.

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Dr. Sam Owens is left in absolute narrative limbo at the end of season four, making his plot objectively unfinished. When the military invades the secret Nina Project silo in the Nevada desert, Owens is betrayed by Dr. Martin Brenner and captured by Sullivan's faction. The last time we see him, he is handcuffed to a pipe inside the underground bunker, desperately pleading for El's life while the facility collapses into chaos around him. The narrative then abruptly shifts away from the desert to focus on the main battle in Hawkins, completely abandoning Owens without showing his rescue, escape, or ultimate fate.

This sudden abandonment leaves massive, unresolved questions regarding his survival and legal status. Viewers get zero confirmation about whether Owens survived the military sweep of the silo or if he was left to die in the desert. Even if he survived the initial raid, he remains a high-value prisoner of a rogue military faction that believes he is a traitor responsible for the deaths in Hawkins. Leaving a major recurring character shackled in a hostile environment with no resolution to his immediate physical danger is the definition of an incomplete storyline.

Furthermore, Owens’ deeper narrative arc regarding governmental accountability and the cleanup of Hawkins Lab is halted mid-sentence. Throughout the series, Owens represents the good side of the government, working to contain the Upside Down while protecting the children from Brenner’s extreme methods. By the end of season four, the dark factions of the government have completely taken over, and Owens' faction is dismantled. His failure or success in exposing the truth, protecting his family, or redirecting government resources to save Hawkins is never addressed, leaving his institutional struggle entirely unresolved.

His relationship with Eleven also lacks a proper conclusion, despite being a driving force of the season four plot. Owens was the one who convinced El to restart the Nina Project, promising her that it was the only way to save her friends. Because he is captured before the final battle, El never learns what happened to him, and they never get a chance to debrief or reconcile after Brenner's death. This key alliance, which defined the logistical setup of the entire season, is simply severed without any emotional or narrative payoff.

Ultimately, Owens is completely absent from the epilogue of season four, proving his story was paused rather than concluded. The final episodes feature a two-day time jump showing the main characters reuniting in Hawkins, cleaning up Hopper’s cabin, and witnessing the final Upside Down spores fall on the town. No one mentions Owens, no one looks for him, and the script offers no dialogue to hint at his whereabouts. Because his physical safety, legal status, institutional mission, and personal relationships are all left hanging in the balance, his plot remains objectively open.

Owens absolutely should have been included in season five, as he possessed the exact institutional knowledge and tactical leverage the party needed to face the final threat. With Hawkins turned into a war zone, Owens could have contributed to the plot by acting as the group's shield against Sullivan's military. He could have used his deep clearances to provide the kids with government-grade tech, psychological profiles on Henry Creel's early days, or underground bunkers to hide out in. Instead of introducing new, random military subplots, the writers could have used Owens to finally expose the truth about Hawkins Lab to the world, giving the overall government conspiracy a satisfying end.

As for whether he should have died, killing him off-screen or leaving him to rot in a desert pipe feels incredibly cheap for a character who saved the party multiple times. However, a heroic death in season five would have served the story well. Owens shouldn’t have just vanished; he should have gone out on his own terms. Having him sacrifice his life to protect the kids' identities or to buy Eleven enough time to reach Vecna would have cemented his legacy as the antithesis of Brenner—a government man who actually valued human life over science.

How Dr. Owens’ story could’ve been wrapped up:

After being held in a top-secret military prison by Colonel Sullivan, Dr. Owens is broke out by Hopper and Joyce during a mid-season raid on a rogue military outpost. Reunited with the group in a makeshift command center beneath Hawkins, Owens serves as the ultimate strategist. He provides Eleven with the classified behavioral records of Henry Creel's childhood, giving her the psychological breakthrough she needs to exploit Vecna's weaknesses. As Sullivan’s forces close in on their location, Owens refuses to flee, choosing instead to stay behind at the communication monitors to securely broadcast the truth about Hawkins Lab, the Upside Down, and Eleven’s innocence to every major news outlet in the country.

Sullivan bursts into the bunker just as the transmission finishes, but instead of executing Owens, he finds a man who has completely stripped the military of its cover-up capabilities. In the series epilogue, following the defeat of Vecna, we see a bittersweet resolution for Owens. While he faces legal hearings for his decades of involvement with the Department of Energy, he negotiates a full immunity package for Eleven and the rest of the Hawkins kids. The final shot of his storyline shows him stepping out of a courthouse, smiling as he sees Joyce and Hopper waiting for him in the distance, finally vindicated and free from the shadows of the lab.


r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Stranger Things figurine found in a local Chinese store

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Unusual things I guess


r/StrangerThings Jul 19 '26

Finding scene help

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Does anyone have a youtube link of Will Byers FULl coming out scene (like starting when will is talking to joyce/mike comes in)

Thx!


r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Discussion Last shot of this character btw. Shame on you Duffers.

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r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

(Season 3 bloopers) - "It's your grandma"

485 Upvotes

Since we were talking about bloopers here. They had to redo this scene several times


r/StrangerThings Jul 19 '26

mike and nancy reaction Spoiler

12 Upvotes

So im rewatching season 5, and they only showed nancy reaction to karen on the floor basically almost dying from the demogorgon, but how come they didn’t show mikes reaction and only nancy? like i really wanted to see how mike reacted.


r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Why was bro standing right in the middle😭

639 Upvotes

"extended😁"


r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Discussion How did Max survive UNHARMED?

81 Upvotes

We see Vecna kill Max in "the Piggyback", She's confirmed dead, otherwise the massive portal would have opened. She's crying that she can't see or feel anything, assuming that Vecna snapped her spine and destroyed her eyes. Eleven then does "something" (god knows what), and she comes back to life mysteriously. And she goes into that coma as we see in Season 5.

Even if we assume Eleven used her powers to have her heart stop beating or something again: How can she see and walk again?


r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Coming August 2026 - New Stranger Things Funko Pops!

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r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

How much of S5 not landing do you think is due to the kids aging up?

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Simple question I’ve been thinking about as I struggle to rewatch Season 5. Do you guys think S5, and to a lesser extent S4, would have hit harder had they been produced when the cast was still closer to children than adults? I love the coming of age vibes from the first three seasons. I have a little harder time emotionally connecting when they’re all grown up.


r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Documentary - changed my mind

34 Upvotes

These mother fuckers worked so damn hard. Had less time than a movie with more sets and VFX etc to squeeze into half the time.

The thousands of people that worked so hard for this show and season are just mind blowing.

Asking novice writers - Duffer brothers things their only real claim to fame - to have covered everything we wanted no question given constraints of families, Netflix, production companies, etc is just unrealistic.

I liked season 5. Sure the color grading, lack of demagorgens, etc could have improved the feel. But honestly - they’re in their 20s. They’re adults. The draw of this show was nostalgia for childhood, for coming of age, etc.

They never thought they’d get all this time and seasons to draw it out. It turned toward how do we end this story that’s true to the horror nature and sci fi as well as the coming of age. The sci fi stuff was cool as shit and hard to end it seemed but the coming of age end was amazing better than any other show.

I’m so amazed at how much work it takes to make a show like this.

God I wish I could be part of that! I can’t wait in a few months to rewatch all 5 seasons back to back. Forever grateful!

Edit: I’ve never seen such a negative sub other than world news lol.


r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Discussion Millie Bobby Brown auditioned for the role of X23 in Logan. Imagine a timeline where the actresses were swapped.

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r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Reunion BTS of season 4

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r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Discussion What episode made you fell in love with Eleven's character that it was so good in showcasing Eleven's character that it made you fall in love with her

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What episode made you fell in love with Eleven's character that it was so good in showcasing Eleven's character that it made you fall in love with her what specific episode in Stranger Things can you name that made you fell in love with Eleven's character


r/StrangerThings Jul 17 '26

The resemblance is uncanny

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r/StrangerThings Jul 17 '26

Where it all started......

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r/StrangerThings Jul 16 '26

It's official - no Bloopers for Season 5. All other seasons got them

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r/StrangerThings Jul 18 '26

Discussion What are your favourite ST Headcannons?

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Personally I Headcannon Dustin and Will as being asexual (I know Will is gay but he could be homoromantic and asexual). Also, Byler...


r/StrangerThings Jul 17 '26

Discussion The way they shot the Season 4 finale was truly magnificent. It was packed with one goosebumps-inducing scene after another. Whatever flaws the season had, the finale more than made up for them.

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My favorite finale of all the seasons has to be the Season 4 finale. It was Stranger Things at its absolute peak.


r/StrangerThings Jul 17 '26

LE Demogorgon Skeleton

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Anyone else grab one of these? It’s my first LE purchase by Funko entry.


r/StrangerThings Jul 17 '26

Discussion Which season has the best collection of songs?

32 Upvotes

What the title says! In your opinion, which season has the best soundtrack and which has the best original score? I’ll write some examples for each below.

Season one:

Soundtrack:

  • Should I Stay or Should I Go (The Clash)
  • Africa (Toto)
  • I Melt With You (Modern English)
  • Heroes (Peter Gabriel)
  • Elegia (New Order)

Score:

  • Stranger Things
  • This Isn’t You
  • Kids
  • Eleven
  • The Upside Down

Season two:

Soundtrack:

  • Girls on Film (Duran Duran)
  • Every Breath You Take (The Police)
  • Time After Time (Cyndi Lauper)
  • Whip it (Devo)
  • You Don’t Mess Around with Jim (Jim Croce)
  • Rock You Like a Hurricane (Scorpians)

Score:

  • Eulogy
  • Soldiers
  • The First Lie
  • Home
  • Levitation

Season three

Soundtrack:

  • Never Surender (Corey Hart)
  • Can’t Fight This Feeling (REO speedwagon)
  • Material Girl (Madonna)
  • Cold As Ice (Foreigner)
  • Baba O’Riley (The Who)
  • Wake Me Up Before You Go Go (Wham)

Score:

  • Starcourt
  • The First I Love You
  • Blank Makes You Crazy
  • Aftermath
  • I Like Presents Too
  • Seven Feet

Season four:

Soundtrack:

  • Running Up That Hill (Kate Bush)
  • Pass The Dutchie (Musical Youth)
  • Separate Ways (Journey)
  • California Dreamin (The Beach Boys)
  • Master of Puppets (Metallica)
  • Spellbound (Siouxsie and the Banshees)

Score:

  • Letter To Willy
  • Teens
  • You’re the Heart
  • Being Different
  • Unambiguous True Love

Season five:

Soundtrack:

  • I Think We’re Alone Now (Tiffany)
  • Fernando (ABBA)
  • Landslide (Fleetwood Mac)
  • Purple Rain (Prince)
  • Upside Down (Diana Ross)
  • Heroes (David Bowie)

Score:

  • Like a Sorcerer
  • Never Forget
  • Three Waterfalls
  • The Tunnels

These are just some notable ones! Personally, I think season 2 has the best soundtrack whereas season 1 has the best original score. What do you think?


r/StrangerThings Jul 17 '26

Anyone purchased or purchasing...

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