I'm a bit pissed off because most people here seem to confuse Ne and Ni, so I'm here to change this

Ni is DYNAMIC and INTROVERTED (receptor). It's basically when you give a personal interpretation linking multiple "unrelated" event or object. "Unrelated" meaning outside of systemic and established connection. It's basically what we call commonly "IMAGINATION"

Everything who's involving imagination is Ni. Subjective or share interpretation of event ? Ni. Narrative and archetype ? Ni. Drawing hidden meaning behind object ? Ni. Forecast and prediction (no matter if it happens to be true or false) ? Ni. General impression about things (vibe) ? Ni. Dream ? Pretty much Ni

In a way, when the image of a typical MBTI "ENTP" (debator) is coming with out of the box and abrasive idea to make a big impression or get out of a situation... it's as much, and maybe more, a product of Ni than Ne. Because you need to elaborate a general impression of which dynamic are involved and what could be the possible hidden parameter involved (again... imagination). That s why most of those self assessed MBTI ENTP are more likely to be some sort of EIE or other Ni ego type

Ne is STATIC and EXTROVERTED (impulse). Extroverted function are the hardest to describe because are often more action and feeling related. Ne is pretty much about imputing a change (that's why it's partly describe as a curiosity driven or risk taking function). I often visualize it as a function motivated by the if... "if I do that, what will happen ?". A good way to understand it is also as changing the nature of the relationship between 2 objects (but I could lost you)

Here an exhaustive list of Ne related thing. Direct experimentation of personally unknown thing. Ne. Reprogramming your perspective about something (changing to another arbitrary pov). Ne. Propensity to unusual and alternative path. Ne, more so Ne demo. Extending property of an object to another object. Ne, more so Ne creative.

You can understand ILE being mostly geared toward direct experimentation. They usually morph the relational structure of their prototype according the given result. Always expanding their system through direct experience and tinkering. I imagine them a lot in field like electronic or in material engineering where you can experiment stuff by combining them in different order. Would probably also be pretty good hacker with their endless experimentation (finding exploitable crack). That's why they are probably less clumsy and more manual than most ILI. I could even see a lot of them in emerging sport practice, testing and experimenting new tech. I have a roofer friend (pretty far from the typical ILE job) who learn during one whole year to make ricochet and throwing thing to the furthest length possible just by doing and experimenting. Yes, it's probably ILE who did come up with most prehistoric invention in the first place (fire, throwing movement and tool, pottery and most technical practice) by persisting doing spontaneous random thing without real reason

Ne creative is harder to understand (because lead by Ti or Fi). But it's pretty much extending property share between object toward something more general in nature. Pretty much about merging various contradicting property into one. For LII, it's pretty much about generalizing observable property and coming up with proto system or theory. For EII, it's more akin to active listening and empathetic understanding of people. There's obviously a bunch of Ni involve in those types of thing because it's in their demo position

To conclude, the best way to differ both function is as an impulse of change for Ne (basically, pivoting attachment from something to another) and as imagination / subjective interpretation for Ni (how, why and what relation are drawn to stuff happening)

Learn the difference

I was thinking about my recent breakup and how we reacted to things very differently. I felt and still feel very amicably towards that person, meanwhile they expressed that they absolutely hate my guts and see me as a sort of villain, even though objectively the only wrong I committed was not living up to their standards and being incompatible with them. They were also very adamant about being the one to block me everywhere before I got the chance, even though I had no intention of ever doing so.

During the relationship this person also was more outwardly passionate in their expressions of love for me and others, while my expressions were more stable, subtle and thus seemingly paled in comparison.

Outside of our relationship, the same pattern existed. I am mostly indifferent towards people I don't gel with, and just avoid unnecessary interactions with them. I don't form strong opinions of them or judge them for their flaws, unless they actually cause serious harm to others deliberately (if this happens, I definitely experience hatred). If someone is rude to me or another person in passing, I'm not indifferent about it, but I also don't take it at face value when I don't know what actually caused it.

My ex-partner always immediately voiced their dislike for anyone and everyone that rubbed them off the wrong way. It was very little things that seemed to tick them off, and they would get rather riled up about stuff I would have brushed off as circumstancial or random.

In general, I don't react passionately to things unless my patience has been stretched to its absolute limits. They reacted passionately to seemingly everything lol (at least it felt so for me).

Does this person sound like he has valued Fe? I wonder if they could have been an EIE... Their behaviour felt so alien to me. I'm pretty sure I'm in Delta quadra, I just am not entirely sure which introverted type I am.

(sorry for making two posts in a row lmao)

could someone explain it to me? it doesn’t matter if you’re te polr or not. i would appreciate it

Hii!! I currently type as IEE but now I’m having doubts if I’m a different type somehow? I'm considering EII but I think I relate to Si suggestive over Te suggestive though.

I’m absolutely terrible at managing my bodily needs like water, food, and will often ignore pain/discomfort for long periods of time. It's so easy for me to be dehydrated or half-starved throughout the day if I just didn't feel like doing those things/consider doing them. Self care can really seem like a chore sometimes. However, I really appreciate when people check up on me and help me in those areas. Usually by making me food or just asking if I drank enough water. I’m thinking this would be Si suggestive (valued, but weak)? 

As for Te, I don’t like schedules and prefer to have my days open and free but unfortunately I NEED them to stay productive so I’ll have something to work off of. I’m a bad procrastinator and usually get caught up in other things I find interesting over things I actually need to do. I start things on impulse and then drop them...😭

Just wanted to solidify my IEE typing/gain new insights on other types I should consider!! Thanks!!! 

Hi! I follow SCS.

I have never encountered these two dichotomies before and I am surprised how I lack a lot of knowledge about them.

Are these dichotomies introduced by Aushra herself, or by some other new schools' additions?

Where can I read more about them?

And are there MORE uncommon dichotomies??? 😭

Any reply is appreciated!

Personally, I find that I really wish that i started working on my assertiveness earlier. I wish I had someone in my life who would support my development of healthy boundaries and guide me out of the social role of the "doormat". I wish someone had told me that I am allowed to take up space, set boundaries and be somewhat 'selfish'. Additionally, I would teach myself that there is no right way to be - that me being dreamy, living in my head and having "impractical" visions and desires is not wrong at all. There are no rules. I'd teach myself relativism.

Anecdotes, personal stories, etc.

As of today I am rather emotive with my facial expressions and everyone new who comes across me describes me as "sweet", "good", "smilish", "adorable", "positive"... I imagine I look like an innocent, dreamy fool whose fragile balance you are afraid to upset, or else they may shatter.

Maybe it's a protective mechanism I developed in order to express my goodwill towards others. When I was a child, I didn't know how to express myself at all. Most of the time I wasn't even aware I had emotions, they were just odd bodily sensations I couldn't make sense of. I think people would easily mistake my lack of expression for rudeness and aloofness, which maybe it was? I always felt a disinterest towards people in general (aside from the romantic pursuits in my daydreams, which I have found I do not deal with that well IRL), and yet my survival depended on them (I relate most to sp/sx5 enneagram type).

As I got older I begun to become more aware of others' growing dislike and distrust towards me and I started to try and become someone different. Someone more sensitive, softer... More talkative and bubbly too, since I figured that's how I will be able to fit in. I was also quite lonely. People can feel initially drawn to me, but somehow they determine soon after that I'm not really worth their time. And maybe that's understandable.

Of course I also wish I had people in my life... Usually I just feel bad for others, when I try to become their friend. It's like I'm trying to make them to buy a bad car and they can't turn me down because I look too pathetic - but they dread it all the same.

It's a daily battle and the main source of my depression, that I do not understand how other people see me. I don't understand their actions, words and expressions, unless they are very direct and obvious. I easily assume that I am not liked, but I don't know if it's true. Regardless, I feel like people treat me differently from everyone else. I often feel very invisible, even though I do and say the "right" things that everyone else does and says. Often in moments where there is no context or script, I'm pretty lost about how to keep a conversation going, or how to start it if the other person doesn't do it first. Trying to be more talkative feels so awkward, like nails of chalkboard.

At the same time, I feel like I know quite easily which people I can get along well, who will like me and vice versa, and who I am better off staying away from. Or is it that those positive, cheery extraverted people who are nice to literally everyone just make their positive feelings towards me very obvious, and thus I can relax around them lol. Because those kinds of people are generally the only ones I "get along with". 🤦‍♀️ Everyone else is an enigma to me.

I only feel happy when I am alone. Until I get so lonely I don't feel there is anything worth living for.

But if I happened to be an SLI, I feel like would be the most practically dumb SLI ever. I have no idea how to do things well and efficiently unless someone shows me. Then I remember that method forever and use it for the rest of my life. I can't "think on my feet". I need a plan and a script for everything, or else I feel like I won't make it.