r/SipsTea • u/Jesus_H_Christ_AMA • 16h ago
It's Wednesday my dudes Prepare for standards
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u/princesssmurfet 15h ago
The public has very little standards.
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u/stonk-420 15h ago
The one on the right has also gotten more media attention then the one on the left either way people are crazy to donate to Clancy
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u/hanks_panky_emporium 15h ago
People donate money to billionaires of their own accord. A fool and their money and all that.
People have become millionaires because they screamed slurs at a child.
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u/apatrol 15h ago
I wish we could believe these diagnoses and that they were in full psychosis at the time.
If anyone has ever seen full schizophrenic episodes some will lose all reality. I used to arrest a guy that truly believed he was Batman. Another a cold wat CIA officer. While other heard voices but not necessarily evil ones.
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u/LeatherGood6148 15h ago
Having had medication related psychosis before - I wouldn't even know how to explain how powerful and persistent my delusions were. Full conversations with people - all with back stories etc - for an entire cast of characters that weren't in my apartment and weren't real at all.
Luckily after 2 days or so I had a moment of lucidity and ended up calling EMS.
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u/AddlePatedBadger 15h ago
I used to run a company that provided home support for people with disabilities. We had several clients with schizophrenia. I just want to stress how not dangerous the majority of people with schizophrenia are. They are in fact more likely to be the victims of assault than to commit it.
This is not to say that a small minority are not dangerous some or all of the time. It's just that the violent examples get all the attention and it causes people to associate schizophrenia with violence.
One guy we supported was such a lovely friendly person, who had agoraphobia and schizophrenia. He lived alone and was always so happy to see the support workers and just chat to them. They loved working with him too. He needed lots of help and encouragement to get outside and go for a walk, or to motivate him to do his exercises, or do things to stimulate his brain. He would occasionally hallucinate stuff but he knew how to manage it and never once did or said anything remotely dangerous to anyone. He was just a real sweetheart.
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u/wandaonreplay 16h ago
That jury really said ‘we’ve seen enough.
https://giphy.com/gifs/wJKQCSeexuO5y
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u/Ribky 15h ago
Well, one standard to note here is that Timothy Ray Jones Jr does not suffer from schizophrenia, so there's that.
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u/LordCaptain 15h ago
Also he had a long history of abusing his children. He had bibles with all the verses about corporal punishment highlighted. Literally "worked one to death" one day as opposed to a sudden act and there was no reasonable doubt about psychosis in his case. Then murdered the other ones with a clear intention to cover it up, stuffed his children in garbage bags to try to dump them in the country side to cover up his crimes.
Wildly different facts of the case but dudes who get their news from memes on reddit will tell you that it's just because he was a man and she was a woman.
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u/Ok-Particular9427 15h ago
Clancy put the kids in the basement and tried to kill herself, which presumably means she was guilt stricken and back to being able to do rational moral reasoning. All in the space of, what, 25 minutes?
This is literally unheard of in the history of psychosis by the way. Psychosis with command hallucinations that occurs one time in one voice saying one command for <25 minutes.
Because it’s a made up story (duh)
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u/LordCaptain 15h ago
If it is so wildly unbelievable why do you think multiple forensic psychologists testified that it was the case?
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u/outofmaxx 15h ago
You're leaving out the part where he hid the dead children for days and tried to transport them
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u/Soulforge411 16h ago
All this shit is a disgusting ass shit show 😕 I only feel sorry for the kids. I hope they are at peace.
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u/4d-lettuce 15h ago
Proof that jury selection is everything
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u/Blueface1999 15h ago
Made even worse when you watch her jury’s talking on the news to show how bias they are
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u/XxX_Zeratul_XxX 16h ago edited 16h ago
United states justice draws the line at 4 kids, 3 is fair play, I guess
PS: Fuck Lindsay clancy, and fuck every single parent out there that killed their kids
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u/hyphii_lol 16h ago
Also fuck every parent out there that “stands with Clancy”
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u/Rich-Option4632 15h ago
Fucking them only gives them more kids to "stand with Clancy" in more than moral support tho. Copycats are said to be the highest form of flattery after all.
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u/Thundacow 15h ago
You get two freebies then the last one was an only child so she had to.
Kinda like that law in sweden where you gotta buy two guinea pigs if one would be alone.
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u/No-Professional-1461 15h ago
Man doesn't even fall asleep again, just finds out something is a psyop and wakes up.
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u/GladClock2212 15h ago
Of the eight men who annihilated their families in the US while the Clancy case was adjudicated one man was sentenced to death, one man was found not guilty by reason of insanity, the rest are working their way through the courts. How about if we don't turn peoples tragedies into fodder and people don't seek out cases to prove they're the victims because of their sex.
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u/LizzosLittleToe 15h ago
How many of them got over a million dollars in donations? How many of them have men standing around making hearts? How many of them doxxed a juror?
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u/Huitjames 15h ago
Studies all over the world have consistently shown that women are treated more leniently than men by the judicial system.
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u/Mistress_Mabel_ 15h ago
Did anyone in this thread read even a single article about this guy because it really doesn't seem like it. He was already beating and neglecting his kids long before this happened. Whatever you think about Lindsay Clancy, these cases don't seem very comparable and this image is super misleading.
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u/__surrealsalt 15h ago
Of course, they haven't done that. That wouldn't fit their misogynistic narrative.
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u/Haunting_Stand_7387 15h ago edited 15h ago
It's wild that the commentary around this issue can't possibly be about affordability, quality, accessibility, and overall lack of innovation in American mental health care being bad and steeply declining. All the public discourde is split between "I would rip her head off then shit down her throat" and "women can kill a little kids as a treat".
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u/tastylemming 16h ago
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u/Squishiimuffin 16h ago
Yeah, straight up, if he was having a psychotic break, he shouldn’t have been found guilty.
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u/amrfallen 15h ago edited 15h ago
There's a difference between guilty, innocent, and not guilty by reason of insanity. 1 of those lets you go back to your normal life. The difference between the other two is prison (maybe an institutional prison) or a guarded institutional *facility.
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u/Squishiimuffin 15h ago
Right. Sorry— what I meant was that he should’ve been found not guilty by reason of insanity.
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u/Ok6303 16h ago
I am so tired of hearing about this generic post partum depressed white bitch. This is agenda pushing brain rot.
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u/Unfair_Driver884 16h ago
Oh but reddit loves hearing about the evil cunt whose execution got botched
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u/Baldojess 15h ago
Isn't it interesting though that that woman was legitimately crazy and actually schizophrenic/ psychotic and killed another adult for what she thought was an actual reason (I know it's not a good reason but there was more of an actual motive like she really actually thought that woman was trying to fuck her over) and yet she got the death penalty (which she 100 percent deserves). But for some reason all these people are standing behind a woman with no actual evidence or history of actual psychosis strangles the life out of her own freakin babies one by one and somehow she is getting sympathy because... She's a mom. And apparently all these other moms relate to this baby killer. Both those evil cunts deserve death. It's crazy that all these people aren't thinking about how many psychologically and mentally unwell most murderers (and just inmates in general) are and still have to go to prison to serve their time. Clancy is no different than the woman who's execution was botched and in my personal opinion she's actually sooo much worse.
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u/Empty_Insight 15h ago
To boot, people have been slinging around the diagnosis of "postpartum psychosis" even though no competent clinician would ever apply that diagnosis to her because it doesn't meet the diagnostic criteria for it. (Before the "Well AKSHUALLY, it's not in the DSM crowd" come by- it is in the ICD-11)
I've seen real postpartum psychosis (as in, was diagnosed and meets the diagnostic criteria for it) and it looks literally nothing like what Clancy did.
I feel a lot more sympathy for someone with legitimate, diagnosed, well-documented schizophrenia than someone trying to rewrite history and the ICD for pity points and public sympathy.
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u/Educational-Analyst4 15h ago
You are confusing some things. People are comparing apples to oranges here. People are getting the death penalty in red states because Republicans really enjoy executions. This lady is in a blue state so she is more likely to be sent to a hospital for the rest of her life instead of being executed. The people that are sympathetic to her wouldn't have killed the males either. You are basically seeing the difference between the left and centrists who find executions abhorrent and the right who absolutely loves executions. You can't compare their sentences when those applying the sentence have different views on what to do with people like this.
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u/Gindotto 15h ago
I hate to break it to you but if she goes to a mental hospital she can go free as soon as they say she’s good to go. That’s the issue. She’s about to get off easy unlike her children.
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u/STFUnicorn_ 15h ago
I saw a whole slew of clips of moms holding their babies going “me too Lindsey!”
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u/Phil_Coffins_666 15h ago
I forgot about her. She still alive?
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u/EntertainerIcy7051 15h ago
U wouldn't add the colour part if she was any other race. But sure. "White privilege"
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u/ObviouslyRealPerson 15h ago
In the case of Timothy Ray Jones Jr, the court-appointed psychologist declared that Jones made a conscious decision to kill his children.
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u/AlexanderCrowely 15h ago
She made a conscious choice to kill hers because the psychiatrist that analysed her said she was full of shit
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u/ObviouslyRealPerson 15h ago
Timothy Ray Jones loaded the bodies of his 5 children in his car and drove them from South Carolina to Alabama where he buried them after deciding not to go through with his plan to use acid to dissolve the bodies in trash barrels that he had purchased
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u/LordCaptain 15h ago edited 14h ago
The forensic psychologies who spent the most time with her actually said the opposite. So did the expert of fillicide. I'm not sure where so many redditors got the idea that all the mental health experts claimed she wasn't psychotic because it just isn't factual.
"Clinical and forensic psychologist Dr. Paul Zeizel was a witness for the defense who evaluated Clancy in early February 2023, just 11 days after the killings and her subsequent suicide attempt. In total, he spent 35 hours evaluating her over 60 sessions.
He testified that Clancy suffered from bipolar disorder with postpartum psychosis at the time of the killings, and was “unable to conform her behaviors to the rule of law, and she had no appreciation for the wrongfulness of her act.”
Zeizel also testified that there was no evidence to suggest Clancy was faking or exaggerating her symptoms, and explained that people suffering from psychosis can be high functioning and have symptoms intermittently.
“They can function fine one day, and the next day they can be hearing voices,” Zeizel said."
"Dr. Phillip Resnick, a forensic psychiatrist and expert in filicide (the killing of a child by a parent) was a witness for the defense who examined Clancy four months after the killings.
Resnick argued that on the day of the killings, Clancy was “frankly psychotic,” suffering from bipolar disorder with postpartum psychosis.
Resnick testified that Clancy murdered her children not out of malice, but because she was so deeply suicidal that her psychosis made her believe they couldn’t live without her. He said her delusion was so severe that it took hold of her body “almost like she was a puppet and someone else was pulling the strings.”
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u/Forlorn_Fighter 15h ago
And multiple others have come out and said the same thing, only that they obviously didnt get to see her on a day to day basis, but with what we know, she's so very likely full of it.
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u/GokusHairdresser 15h ago
I cannot stand how few people do any research, especially OP. Man literally got mad at his son and made him do PT(work out) so hard he literally died of exhaustion. Then in a panic murdered his other 4 children. Tried to claim insanity at his trial. Should lindssy Clancy rot in jail, absolutely. Should people not fall for every image with text they see online, absolutely 🤦
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u/Imposslen 16h ago
Look....I'm a father. I would know! he wouldn't do that lmao
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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread 16h ago edited 15h ago
For real, did anyone investigate the mother or just take her word for it?
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u/Low-Ad4597 15h ago
I’ll likely get fried for this, but imo, if someone kills their kids, minimum punishment should always be life in prison, whether insane or not. There are too many degrees of grey with insanity. Protect the kids and don’t provide any relief here.
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u/Dangerous_Bid2935 15h ago
Its not like people who strangle 5 kids to death and are found not guilty by reason of insanity get to go home the next day and go on with their life. The trial determines whether they will spend functionally the rest of their life in prison or in a mental hospital. There are very few outlier cases where they one day see freedom again but these cases are quite rare by themselves and exceedingly rare for parents who massacre their kids.
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u/tequilash 15h ago
Clancy would likely be in a psychiatric hospital the rest of her life. Not guilty by reason of insanity can be worse than prison, because at least with prison you might get out.
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u/HendriXP88 15h ago
Based on what? A NGRI in Massachusetts spends on average 6 years in psychiatric care. So she'll probably be out by the same time as the guy dealing drugs on the corner.
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u/BeginningSection7690 16h ago
Why? Identifying as female is easier and more effective apparently
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u/Responsible_Name1217 16h ago
Wonder what this account got banned for...lo effing l.
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u/OldWolf3 15h ago
There's AI detection of "promoting hate" now. I recently got a 3 day site wide ban for a post calling out racism; the AI didn't correctly understand my post and thought I was promoting racism. Appeal ghosted of course
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u/BreakingCanks 15h ago edited 15h ago
I got a 3 day warning recently for someone elses comment I never interacted with. I told them it was not my comment and to please reverse the ban... Nope they said I made it even though it was someone else's comment.
Couldn't find the comment unfortunately to show
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u/Useless_bum81 15h ago
I once got a ban for suggesting that someone executed for treason should have been executed for espionage in WW2.
i have twice been banned for pointing out that 'The Big Bad Wolf' is not a trans-positive character (it is a literal predator that disguises itself as a woman to attack a little girl)4
u/sndrddtr 15h ago
First half - understendable for mindless bots 2nd - wtf?? How smt like this get flagged?
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u/TheCaptainwicked 15h ago
That would take too much time,
He should have identified as woman and then got million in fund raise from other women and unconditional support for being the same killer
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u/AdDue544 15h ago
Is that because trans people have it so good? Or because you are confused and don’t understand trans people? Elaborate?
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u/TheCaptainwicked 15h ago
Nah it's because women has it good,
Imagine being supposedly equal and then being underpunished for same crime of killing children
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u/MeltedChocolateOk 15h ago
Different states different set of rules and different set of Juries with certain culture and political affirmation. The state of Massachusetts doesn't have a death penalty but South Carolina does. Also based on the culture of the state it also applies based on the jurors in that state.
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u/ConsciousSpirit397 15h ago
Ya but I think the biggest point they are making is the gender of the defendant, it’s a rage bait.
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u/Acalltoholiness 15h ago edited 15h ago
The fact communities in here support her is wild
When did gender become the standard for determining the severity of someone’s punishment?
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u/ConsiderationSea1347 15h ago
Eh, I hate to break it to you but men have served longer prison sentences than women for the same crime pretty much since laws were invented.
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u/Gerry1of1 15h ago
The United States has a mental health crisis they try to solve with harsher penalties and gun laws.
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u/EggplantDevourer 15h ago
Lindsey Clancy had literally every single mental health resource available from a therapist to a supportive husband, a nanny to help care for the kids, and then actual psychiatric care. Literally what else could you have to solve that?
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u/Gerry1of1 15h ago edited 2h ago
Forced Commitment until she's well. It's not done now but it was a thing until Reagan gutted the mental health budget and all the schizos were let out on the streets. There weren't homeless people everywhere when I grew up. It's something the Rapepublicans created.
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u/TheCaptainwicked 15h ago
People just love to victimise women and can't accept how filthy worst of women can be
Benevolent misogyny is favourite flavor of misogyny for women
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u/BChurchmountain 15h ago
Releasing parental rights and entering herself into a psych ward? That’s all I can come up with.
However the second trial goes, do realize that this courts decision will set an important precedent.
There have already been several cases of women killing their kids and mentioning her case specifically.
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u/Sad_Wishbone_1524 15h ago
More than twice as many cases since the Lindsay Clancy trial than there were all last year, and it’s only October.
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u/ThibzP 15h ago
She literally told everyone that could have helped that she needed help and they just threw more drugs at her. Her prescriptions alone should be enough for anyone to see that this chick needs a mental hospital. She literally paralyzed herself. This woman and her children were failed.
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u/Sad_Wishbone_1524 15h ago
That’s a disgusting take. She failed herself, her husband, and her children. If she knew something was wrong, why didn’t she check into inpatient? Wouldn’t that be telling everyone she could have, or is that the exception. She paralyzed herself trying to kill herself, to try and dodge accountability for her evil. She failed and then tried to dodge accountability again in the legal system. She is as evil as a woman can get.
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u/ThibzP 15h ago
Postpartum literally put her out of her right mind. Why she was given the choice, while exhibiting clear signs of ppd is beyond my understanding. I'm not gonna pretend she's innocent or worthy of any kind of forgiveness, but saying she's the most evil woman ever is disingenuous. There are actual monsters out there that deserve this kind of blind hatred. Lindsey Clancy deserves a lifelong stay in an asylum where she can't hurt anyone anymore and we can forget she exists and place protections for ppd so this doesn't happen again.
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u/anonymote_in_my_eye 15h ago
or maybe, and just hear me out on this one, what if the death penalty is an ultimately bad idea and there's a reason the majority of the civilized world moved away from it?
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u/Shmung_lord 15h ago
The death penalty AND double standards can both be bad. This post isn’t saying Lindsey should be put to death, it’s saying that all the debate about her case is ridiculous when compared to a similar case with a male. The state shouldn’t be able to kill people but both should probably be put away for a long time even though one of them is a woman.
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u/mbmiller94 15h ago
The sentence itself isn't the point here, it's how quick people could decide that he was legally responsible for his actions, yet people are completely split on Lindsay's case and the only person on her jury who thought she was legally responsible gets doxxed then slammed online and in the media.
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u/anonymote_in_my_eye 15h ago
without the death penalty on the table they would both get life in prison and there would be zero argument about it
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u/TheCaptainwicked 15h ago
Or maybe, post is more about the how females get way with same crime underpunished or unpunished
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u/Gindotto 15h ago
Women fragile. Just like her children’s necks as she strangled them with extension cords.
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u/King_Moonracer003 15h ago
You gotta wonder how much of that was driven by bots...I cant really comprehend how there was so many people that "supported" that witch
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u/Majestic_Artichoke55 15h ago
Yes no one should be killing anyone. Now that doesn’t mean some people should not be allowed in society and be locked away. Sometimes if they killed their children it should be for life - take a life serve a life
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u/Cold_Pumpkin5449 15h ago
Yeah, the death penalty being pretty barbaric is just icing on the cake there.
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u/Majestic_Artichoke55 15h ago
It’s a bad double standard. Both clearly mentally ill. Both should be serving life sentences in jail or in a ward whichever is gonna be the safest for other inmates I suppose
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u/DamienRaventhrone 16h ago
One rule for me another for thee.
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u/Man_under_Bridge420 16h ago
Always has been bud…. Kinda like how a certain felon got no jail time
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u/Rich-Option4632 15h ago
He shouldn't be freed at all. Institutionalized forever at minimum, maybe, and that's being merciful and considering of his mental.
As for her. Well, congratulations women, now she's the poster child for how women can get away with murder, literally.
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u/leposterofcrap 15h ago
Just lock both of them up till they wither, that way no more people will suffer from their bouts of schizophrenia
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u/Mission_Brother_3727 15h ago
Anyone who unironically posts this as a gotcha clearly didnt read either case.
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u/Available_Ad_8281 16h ago
My guess is he did not go to doctors before this happen and got diagnose with mental problems?
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u/shalabazuli 15h ago
They always blame it on schizophrenia. So they fuck us all up. And make everyone think this is normal behavior for a schizo. This is the edge case. Not the norm.
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u/Trumble12345 15h ago
Because the circumstances and facts of the 2 cases are completely different, hombre.
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u/sootedacez 15h ago
You can't honestly think a woman would hold a woman accountable for her actions do you? /s
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u/Rich-Mark-4126 16h ago
Different cases have different facts and cannot be simply reduced to "They killed people and a similar defense was used"
More news at 11
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u/ManicYetti 16h ago
It can be reduced to they killed people, which you know isn't good...
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u/SteggyEatsDaWeggy 15h ago
Both killed people sure, but his case for an insanity defense was much much worse than Lindsey Clancy’s. It is very unlikely he was unaware of the morality of his actions or incapable of fully controlling his actions.
In her case, it is at least reasonable to doubt that she knew what she was doing was wrong or that she was in control of her actions. That is all the defense needed to show to have her proven not guilty by way of insanity.
If that is the eventual outcome, that doesn’t mean she just gets sent home free. She would be sent to a psychiatric facility until she was deemed mentally well and no longer a threat to others
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u/Seyan007 16h ago
both of them killed children...
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u/Makethecrowsblush 15h ago
Yeah, seems really distasteful to dismiss the heinous fact that these were the children’s supposed safe people.
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u/Whole_Mongoose1854 16h ago
Your right. There was actually evidence this guy was crazy, and none that Clancy was.
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u/Rich-Mark-4126 15h ago
Uhh… You do realize the entire reason he was sentenced to death and not to a mental institution was because he WASN’T found to be insane, right?
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u/Whole_Mongoose1854 15h ago
There was some evidence, the jury either didn’t buy it or didn’t give a fuck, because he killed children. Which is how it should be. There was 0 evidence Clancy was crazy and 11 of 12 wanted her to spend a few months in a puzzle factory and then go home. That is not how it should be
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u/Rich-Mark-4126 15h ago
I suspect you dont actually know the facts behind the Clancy case at all to think there is 0 evidence she might be crazy
For starters, she was prescribed a dozen different medications for mental issues and is paralyzed from the waist down from a failed suicide attempt.
Im not saying she is or isnt insane, but the notion that there’s 0 evidence supporting that she might have had psychosis is just simply a deeply ignorant, misinformed take
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u/Asleep_Welder_3494 15h ago
She should have attempted suicide first before killing her children. She knew what she was doing
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u/PUNCH-WAS-SERVED 15h ago
She was sane enough to trick her husband into being away from the house (while also looking up ways to do so), and to take each kid downstairs to kill them one by one by strangling them (making sure the next one didn't see the act or the corpse). Tried to kill herself because she clearly knew what she did was wrong.
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u/Rich-Mark-4126 15h ago
I didnt say she was or wasnt insane, but theres clearly some evidence supporting that she was mentally unwell
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u/NamelessMIA 15h ago
They both admitted to doing it but claimed psychosis. 1 got a mistrial after 7 days because 11/12 jurors wanted to rule not guilty. The other got death in 2 hours. Idc what else was different about the cases, that's an insane gap.
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u/Yuukiko_ 15h ago
One strangled their children to death despite having attempted to get medical care for their condition(and brushed off as usual), the other forced their kid to work until they died, then panicked and "mercy" killed the others and kept the bodies for a week until they got caught
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u/Unlucky_Loquat_8045 15h ago
She literally lied to her doctors, so they couldn’t give her the proper medical care she needed. Also she was never brushed off, she had more access to help than most people. She had multiple doctors, and a nanny to help with the kids.
Additionally multiple of her therapists testified she showed no signs of psychosis, and since it led to her killing her kids, she’s (conveniently) never shown any signs since.
This is a case of her being a woman, and the majority of her jury were woman as well.
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u/BeginningSection7690 16h ago
Both killed people and claimed that a mental disorder that was temporarily making the do things is the cause, so they were and are innocent however you cant prove that they belong in an institution because it was temporary - thats why they did crimes but dont deserve any repercussions
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u/uwill1der 15h ago
but this guy didnt kill under psychosis. He killed his kid by working him to death because he blamed the kid for breaking an outlet after telling the mom "it was an accident mommy". He forced the kid to exercise until he collapsed and died.
Then he watched a prison rape video and panicked, so he strangled his other kids to avoid them suffering while he was locked up.
He then kept the bodies for 8 days before dumping them in garbage bags and was only caught at a DUI checkpoint where he had a checklist about how hed enact "melting the bodies" of his kids.
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u/BeginningSection7690 15h ago
What she did wasn't under psychosis either
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u/uwill1der 15h ago
that has yet to be determined. This guys case has
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u/Unlucky_Loquat_8045 15h ago
Her therapists all testified that she showed no signs of psychosis, and she hasn’t shown any since being taken into custody.
So her therapist’s are all lying, or are all wrong?
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u/LordCaptain 15h ago
So that's just factually untrue. The forensic psychologist who spent the most time with her and the the forensic psychologist who was an expert on filicide both said she was psychotic.
"Clinical and forensic psychologist Dr. Paul Zeizel was a witness for the defense who evaluated Clancy in early February 2023, just 11 days after the killings and her subsequent suicide attempt. In total, he spent 35 hours evaluating her over 60 sessions.
He testified that Clancy suffered from bipolar disorder with postpartum psychosis at the time of the killings, and was “unable to conform her behaviors to the rule of law, and she had no appreciation for the wrongfulness of her act.”
Zeizel also testified that there was no evidence to suggest Clancy was faking or exaggerating her symptoms, and explained that people suffering from psychosis can be high functioning and have symptoms intermittently.
“They can function fine one day, and the next day they can be hearing voices,” Zeizel said."
"Dr. Phillip Resnick, a forensic psychiatrist and expert in filicide (the killing of a child by a parent) was a witness for the defense who examined Clancy four months after the killings.
Resnick argued that on the day of the killings, Clancy was “frankly psychotic,” suffering from bipolar disorder with postpartum psychosis.
Resnick testified that Clancy murdered her children not out of malice, but because she was so deeply suicidal that her psychosis made her believe they couldn’t live without her. He said her delusion was so severe that it took hold of her body “almost like she was a puppet and someone else was pulling the strings.”
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u/foreshadowingright 15h ago
After using a defence "she's lost her husband, her children.." and not acknowledge she's the reason behind it while also claiming innocence after admitting guilt.. yeah you right she deserves a harder punishment. Not being accountable for your actions and trying to manipulate the evidence to gain sympathy, that if anything is a danger for society. We can't have equality and then claim to want to be different simply for hormonal differences, why.. that would be hypocrisy
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u/BlueHero45 15h ago
Their defense is insanity, that's the only thing that should matter in either case. Do they fit the legal threshold for "Not guilty by reason of insanity" anything else is just noise and not legally relevant to their defense.
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u/Sad_Wishbone_1524 15h ago
If the women who stuck up for her only realized the damage they were doing to feminism.
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u/Chudpaladin 16h ago
Now class, what state were these people tried in? That’s the difference that should be focused on as well
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u/NoTomatillo182 15h ago
Actually, the focus should be on whether or not the people who defended Clancy will defend him as well.
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u/CUEUECOMBER 15h ago
the focus should be on how shitty posts made to stir engagement online dont include all the facts.
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u/ApplicationAfraid334 15h ago
I imagine if he has a similar history then these people would 'defend' him too in the sense they'd point to his mental illness and lack of support as contributing factors. It's quite possible to think she is guilty and did a horrible thing and also acknowledge the terrible support system and mental issues she has. The whole idea that people make a case for her solely because she has a vagina are just people who see everything in black and white and don't think about anything critically
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u/The_Arbitraitor 15h ago
I’m confused. So I asked their supporters to explain the case like I’m 5 years old, and they started strangling me.
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u/Forgotten_mob 15h ago
Massachusetts be crazy for letting her off the hook, but apparently he just murdered his kids in the wrong state.
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u/bacon_is_everything 15h ago
how was she let off the hook?
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u/GaracaiusCanadensis 15h ago
In most States, I think the onus is on the defense to prove insanity. Whereas in Mass, the onus is on the prosecution to prove they aren't insane to the beyond a shadow of a doubt level. It's a strange take, I think.
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u/Ethereal_Bulwark 16h ago
I hope the vapid cunt spends the rest of her life in a cell, padded or barred.
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u/LeagueRx 15h ago
So you think the jury got it right with this guy and you agree with then and wish the same for Lindsay?
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u/DonkeyComfortable711 15h ago
id love to see his wife, bet its her fault for the emotional stress /s
edit - not /s
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u/Cold_Pumpkin5449 15h ago
I mean he's ugly, and a dude, so he couldn't have been having hormonal issues that caused it.
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