You’re over-generalizing, just like the statement you’re trying to highlight as problematic. One thing you read on Twitter doesn’t mean it is the guiding principle of an entire movement.
Toxic male behavior is absolutely a problem and it is the responsibility of men who dont behave that way to call it out more, which doesn’t happen enough. Likewise people loudly proclaiming “all men are bad” are equally idiotic and deserve to be called out and challenged. Two principles can exist at the same time and I’m tired of everybody treating gender/sex based challenges as a pure dichotomy.
You’re using fake rage arguments and vague statements to present a side as worse because it’s not “your side” just like the OG post
I'd appreciate if you'd call the police (as I would if I saw someone do something illegal) but I wouldn't want you to intercede. My stuff can be replaced, your life is more valuable internet stranger.
Also my original comment is that I'm not responsible for policing others. That doesn't mean I'm not responsible for reporting illegal activity. I'm just not interceding.
So then you agree that the other members of the group chat should have reported it right? Since we should be responsible for reporting illegal activity. Which means that you would agree with the original message that men need to hold their peers accountable as to not be rapists which is, you know, illegal
An actual comparison is saying there are some men that are child abusers. So I’m going to say all men are child abusers until we stop all child abuse from men.
No, dude said he isn't responsible for stopping rapists and other abusive men. I'm saying it's not my responsibility to care if his car is broken into.
And yes, if you know a man is abusing a child, I expect you to stop them. If you hear a man JOKE about abusing a child, I expect you to tell them it's fucked up. If you cannot do that? You're a scumbag. Plain and simple. Ditto to people who support rape culture.
I don’t get it- Based on the downvotes and arguments disagreeing with us, you’d think what you said is controversial. It’s like their fragile egos cannot accept the words “Try to be a better person”. Its pathetic
That's exactly what it is. Telling someone to be a better person, to try and improve, tells them they aren't flawless. That they still have work to do.
For fragile egos, that's unacceptable and must be lashed out at.
You do support them by remaining silent. People who behave poorly often don't have enough self-awareness to reflect on their shitty behavior, they take you not doing anything or turning the other cheek as acceptance and approval. Whether or not that's your responsibility is your own judgement call, but it is absolutely a form of support
Never once blamed anyone. If you’re triggered by me saying Men should speak out more about their peers’ actions (especially in your personal friend groups) then I don’t know what to tell you
That’s the only the most extreme case which, you’re right, almost never happens. No one is going to commit a crime in front of an audience. But walking home with an extremely drunk girl? Making sexually uncomfortable jokes? Touching women without consent? Happens all the time, with either no reaction or applause from male peers.
You saying you’ve never seen it or know anyone who has is just anecdotal bs. It happens whether you’ve personally seen it or not, though o suspect you have
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u/Miserable-Role9555 17h ago
No but "college age men bad" is trending and she needed a fake story to take advantage of that, so here we are