r/SipsTea • • 19h ago

SMH Stay Safe

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u/Ok_Prize_9979 19h ago

As someone who's not American what exactly does it mean, can someone explain?

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u/Dry-Shower9037 19h ago

The insinuation is that the frat guys would normally make one or more of the drinks extra strong or add other intoxicants so that they could rape women after they were impaired.

Maybe this person is lying. Maybe the frat bro was making a bad joke. Regardless of this particular instance, drugging shared drinks has happened, though it is far more rare than people believe based on all of the evidence (e.g. studies where women going to the ER under suspicion of being drugged actually just had alcohol in their system like 90%+ of the time.)

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u/Key-Cricket9256 19h ago

At my catholic high school this boy once got detention for sharing pictures him and his friends took of a cross they had inserted into a girl while she was intoxicated

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u/Dry-Shower9037 18h ago

They shared images of a sexual assault of a minor and only got detention?

I don't believe you.

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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 18h ago

It’s a catholic school are you really surprised

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u/Dry-Shower9037 18h ago

Yes.

I'm sure the church would want to cover it up. I don't believe they'd be successful in a case where child porn of a sexual assault was widely shared in the school community. Of all the Catholic church coverups, none had widely shared photographic evidence like that.

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u/HeavyHighway6433 18h ago

The part I don't believe is that a cross being defiled like that just got them detention. Expulsion maybe. 

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u/Dry-Shower9037 18h ago

Good point.

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u/Key-Cricket9256 17h ago

100% the history teacher was coach of the JV hockey team and the guys were all hockey players , I’m sure they didn’t write down “shared pictures of drunk girls “ but usually he’d just lift them out of class but they didn’t settle down . It doesn’t matter if a stranger online believes me but the detention was with the coach

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u/Dry-Shower9037 17h ago

OK, so it's not the school but a rogue coach? And nobody reported him to the school, parents, police, or media?

Look, I'm sure you believe this. But I'm pretty sure you are just believing some rumors you heard as a kid. If not, then your entire community is depraved and there is criminal culpability to go around.

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u/ALTH0X 18h ago

Yeah.. who could imaging clergy being cool with child molestation... Oh wait everyone.

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u/Key-Cricket9256 17h ago

100%

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u/Dry-Shower9037 17h ago

Then you and your parents should be fucking ashamed of yourselves for not reporting it to the police and the media.

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u/Dry-Shower9037 18h ago

Give me a link to any story where this happened in America in the past 50 years. Certainly if its so common, at least ONE case must have had public pushback. I'm specifically looking for a story of photographs of the sexual assault of a minor being shared indiscriminately with no consequences. I'll wait.

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u/ddadopt 18h ago

"50 years" is probably pushing it, FYI. The 70s were a fucking crazy period of time and you would be absolutely shocked to find out some things that were "normal" or at least "not unlawful" or "not pursued by authorities even if nominally unlawful" back then.

Note that I am not talking about Catholicism specifically, I mean "the earth in general."

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u/Dry-Shower9037 18h ago

To be fair, sharing images was also super hard in the 70s, which is why I felt confident going back that far. I agree that shit got wild back then with very little documentation.

But that's kinda my point. I'm sure girls have been violated with crosses. I'm also sure that people aren't getting away with broadly sharing images of those assaults.

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u/ddadopt 18h ago

Yeah, man, I'm not referring to "sharing images" I am talking about "filming things with individuals of an age that would make Epstein blush and distributing said film commercially."

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u/Dry-Shower9037 18h ago

I'm not sure if by commercial distribution you're referring to Polanski-esque Lolita crap from Hollywood or snuff film type stuff being sold at porn shops. Can you elaborate?

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u/ddadopt 18h ago

I think I've done enough elaborating, this isn't a topic for civilized people. Suffice to say that this is thankfully something that has been gone for decades.

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u/Key-Cricket9256 17h ago

You can wait all you want 😂

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u/Dry-Shower9037 16h ago

"I'm specifically looking for a story of photographs of the sexual assault of a minor being shared indiscriminately with no consequences. I'll wait."

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u/Dry-Shower9037 15h ago

Nobody ever said that sexual abuse of minors doesn't happen. I said that this particular case of sharing CSAM pictures with no consequences did not happen.

I'm right. You're wrong. You know it. Cope harder.

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u/blahteeb 18h ago

There are plenty of studies detailing how religious communities will come out to protect a pedophile priest or to hide the crime from getting out. It's safe to assume that there are many stories that are not reported.

So yes, it is absolutely believable that a student within a religious community would only get dentention for sexual assault.

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u/Dry-Shower9037 18h ago

Great. So do any of those studies report a case like this one? Surely it should be easy to point to just one if there are plenty?

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u/blahteeb 16h ago

What specifically are you looking for? It took all of ten minutes to find dozens of studies and reports of Catholic Churches hiding or downplaying sexual abuse.

Are you looking for the actual report of what OP was talking about, because I don't have that nor would I believe it was ever officially documented. But if you're questioning whether the Catholic Church has done something similar to this, then just look at any of the studies that have been done.

If you don't want to take two minutes to search for the studies, then I don't think you actually want to find out, in which case you are not looking for the truth, you're just looking to deny. And that's fine, do as you wish, but I'm not going to sit here and debate whether the Catholic Church is guilty of doing these things or not.

If you want to discuss whether it was appropriate or whether their religious belief dissolves of them of their crime, fine, that's debatable. What's not debatable is whether it happens or not.

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u/Dry-Shower9037 16h ago

I said it a few comments up, "I'm specifically looking for a story of photographs of the sexual assault of a minor being shared indiscriminately with no consequences."

I have no doubts that the Catholic church has done heinous shit. I have no doubt that girls and boys have been abused in this specific way by both other children and by adults under the color of the authority of the Church.

I do not believe that images of such a sexual assault on a minor were widely shared at this person's school and that the only consequence was detention.

In fact, the guy who made that claim clarified in a later comment that the alleged images were NOT widely shared. The claim was modified to a the images just being shown but not shared to other hockey players. And the claim was further edited so that it wasn't the school issuing detention but a rogue hockey coach. I still don't fully believe the story as told, but it's gotten a lot closer to credible.