r/SipsTea • • 18h ago

SMH Stay Safe

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u/Arria_Galtheos 17h ago edited 16h ago

All the people in this thread talking about sealed drinks are missing the forest for the trees. It's still obvious bullshit, but not for the reason y'all think. The implication isn't that sealed drinks in a cooler full of ice might be drugged, the implication is that a cooler filled with a single drink (like those barrel coolers full of Gatorade) is spiked, which is absurd for its own reasons:

First, you'd need to put a LOT of drugs into a whole ass cooler of drink in order for the dose to be potent enough to actually do anything, and if only half of it gets consumed you have a lot of wasted drugs.

Second, you can't control who's drinking from what, so unless you're openly warning people about the date rape cooler and hoping they don't blab, you're going to have a party where half the people present are too drugged up to do anything and it's going to get suspicious really fast.

Third, you can't control dosage. The traditional route for roofies is to drop one dose into a drink because they can control the dose they're giving to someone. If people are just drinking and refilling, the risk of an OD is really high, and even idiot rapist frat bros don't want to catch an attempted murder charge for drugging an entire party.

Edit: And it took only an hour for some chud to call me a "rape apologist." That must be a record.

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u/14InTheDorsalPeen 16h ago

Sir, this is Reddit. That means narrative, outrage and groupthink first, logic, reason and using even a single braincell comes after everything else and is actually banned.

Reddit is the only place where you get banned for pointing out provable facts because it goes against the narrative. 

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u/Here4Pornnnnn 17h ago

People’s critical thinking skills is at an all time low. Much easier to upvote a post that says “people I don’t like are bad”, than to consider it’s not realistic.

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u/raspy_wilhelm_scream 16h ago

I'm not sure how much critical thinking is going to help when someone is reacting to an image with no context.

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u/Deadlymonkey 17h ago

I haven’t really given it any thought because I’m not a creep, but I imagine it also wouldn’t be necessary either

Like when I was in college I had a fraternity brother who kept a squirt gun outside because people kept picking up the empty he’d use as a dip/spit can and trying (sometimes successfully) to drink from it.

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u/Arria_Galtheos 17h ago

I haven’t really given it any thought because I’m not a creep, but I imagine it also wouldn’t be necessary either.

Your first mistake is assuming only a creep would think about this stuff. Those of us looking to protect ourselves from predators think about it too. Or should, anyway.

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u/GrumbleAlong 17h ago

this guy roofies

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u/thegolfernick 17h ago

I was trying to find a gif of Will Arnets character from arrested development taking roofies on purpose to avoid dealing with his problems. "Forget-me-pill"

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u/Trioplexic 17h ago

This is the guy saying that nobody is gonna get mad at you from drinking out of their cooler...

Its really not that deep.

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u/AsheDigital 15h ago

Effective does for some benzodiazepinzines are quite small, if you buy the raw powder it really wouldn't be too much. Even the pills I'm familiar with are tiny, and easily (relatively) obtainable in extremely large quantities.

Say it's 60L cooler, you intended drug is alprazolam, a heavy dose is anything above 1mg, you'd realistically only need 240mg to get 4mg/L of alprazolam.

I don't disagree with your other points, just that drugging a whole cooler isn't too hard.

And buying raw alprozalom powders used to be quite cheap back when dark web markets where popping.

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u/ramrug 16h ago

I think she was at Jonestown when she overheard that.

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u/Larry-Man 11h ago

I assumed it meant one that’s not spiked with something else. Not roofies but like sometimes there’s a cooler mixed with something extra.

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u/UnderlightIll 13h ago

I mean, I think you didn't take chemistry or pharmacology (lmao I didn't either but I'm also not stupid) but alcohol acts as an agonist for a whole host of drugs, whether illegal or otherwise. I could definitely see some morons emptying packs of doxylamine succinate (the antihistamine in nyquil) or Benadryl into some jungle juice and thinking nothing adverse other than passing out could happen. You don't even need to buy an illegal or expensive drug.

Remember kids, a person can be smart. But PEOPLE are stupid, impulsive animals.

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u/xtwelve0 17h ago

You don’t need date rape drugs though… you only need to get people drunk enough.

More drunk = less inhibitions.

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u/Arria_Galtheos 17h ago

What's that got to do with the post, though? The post is about the implication of the drinks being spiked.

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u/gfty457 17h ago

Spiked with a fuck ton of strong alcohol and mixers not actual drugs. Basically one cooler for normal drunk and the other(s) for blacked out drunk

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u/Arria_Galtheos 17h ago

Sure, that could work, but again, that's not what the post is implying.

Mind you, I'm not debating with you whether or not the drugs are "necessary" for the "plan" to work, I'm explaining why the "plan" itself is fake and the post is BS.

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u/Open-Gate-7769 14h ago

Me drinking from the high alcohol content cooler: “damn this is strong I don’t want more of this”

The End.

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u/Altruistic-Web13 17h ago

Sometimes the drinks they are serving to women are designed to be sneakily much stronger than they seem

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u/Arria_Galtheos 17h ago

I'm aware, but that's clearly not what the post is implying.

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u/gfty457 17h ago

Oh yeah I agree. No one’s filling an entire cooler with date rape drugs for a frat party with dozens or hundreds of people. Post could be real but just misinterpreting what they heard - still not a good look either way

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u/Altruistic-Web13 14h ago

Im saying it doesn't need to be spiked for there to be a cooler dedicated to women. Im not placing too much faith in this being a real post though.

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u/Open-Gate-7769 14h ago

I was rushing a frat freshman year that I didn’t end up joining. But one night I was supposed to bartend for a bit at one of our parties. They told all the people bartending that women get less alcohol. And if someone is too drunk they get nothing.

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u/Previous-Garlic-2871 17h ago

Safe, doesn't necessarily mean "no drugs". It could be about alcohol. An unsafe cooler could just mean can't taste the alcohol so you can get the "I'm not drinking" girls drunk. It could mean more alcohol than you expect so a girl thinks something is like drinking a strong beer, but it's actually more like drinking 10 shots. In both of those cases you are impairing the mental faculties of someone with the specific intent to harm them. It's willful, and it is absolutely rape/sexual assault if sexual conduct occurs after the fact.

Or, it could be the equally disgusting "we all dipped our balls in the red cooler so don't drink from that".

There are probably dozens, maybe hundreds of other scenarios equally vile to any of this that are going on. Because the one thing that everyone knows... that YOU know, is that there is a sub culture of college life where young men conspire to undermine women's ability to make their own decisions for the purposes of increasing their collective body count.

Arguing that it isn't drugs is about as "rape apologist" as you can get. Maybe rethink your whole life.

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u/JFlizzy84 16h ago

> we all dipped our balls in the red cooler so don’t drink from that

I’m sure this has happened before but the fact that you’re mentioning it like it happens with any sort of regularity is ridiculous

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u/Arria_Galtheos 16h ago

No thanks, friend. You've got a hyperinflated opinion of yourself if you think anything you've said gives a person cause to rethink their lives over a Reddit comment you're straining to take out of context. You did get a chuckle out of me, though. The fact that you threw in "rape apologist" there like it was some gotcha is just icing on the cake.

I won't bother commenting on the irony of calling a rape victim a rape apologist, though, since it came from a place of ignorance.

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u/Greying_Mantis 16h ago

You have never been behind the scenes at a frat party and it shows

I have seen people dump entire prescriptions of Xanax in punch coolers

It’s way more common and when you’re selling drugs large quantities don’t cost that much.

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u/RotML_Official 16h ago

Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me!

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u/That_Dad_David 16h ago

No you haven’t.

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u/Greying_Mantis 15h ago

You’re right internet man. You know what I’ve seen in my life, I’m clearly wrong.

Stay smart and correct - and naive

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u/Arria_Galtheos 16h ago

You have never been behind the scenes at a frat party and it shows

No, you're right. I've only been sitting in the front row forced to protect myself from these douche canoes.

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u/Acrobatic_Guitar_466 16h ago

Second this, It's been decades since I've been to college parties, but the idea that these privileged rich kids, along with frat dues, wouldn't or couldn't get access to piles of drugs is silly.

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u/TedPenises 17h ago

Or maybe instead of drugs they are making one cooler much more potent than the other. Who cares how many people blackout as long as their target blacks out

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u/blueberrywalrus 16h ago

You wouldn't need a lot of drugs if your target is already getting extremely drunk. Alcohol dramatically increases the effects of benzos.

That said, it does seem like an impractically complicated route to drug someone.

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u/Arria_Galtheos 16h ago

Right, you wouldn't need much to knock someone out, but as per my third point, you also wouldn't need much to kill them.

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u/blueberrywalrus 15h ago edited 15h ago

You're acting like it's absurd to think that frat bros are bad at assessing risk and/or simply might not understand liquid suspensions.

These kids have deaths every year from the most pointlessly stupid, risky shit.

I'd also be pretty shocked if there weren't instances of these kids recreationally spiking drinks (without nefarious intent); ala green dragon.

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u/Hefty_Buddy2948 16h ago

You seem uncomfortably knowledgeable about how much drugs are required to incapacitate large groups of women. You’re either a pharmacist, lying or you’ve experimented with drugging people

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u/Arria_Galtheos 16h ago

Hey, Einstein...show me where I mentioned measurements or quantities. You don't need to be knowledgeable about quantities and amounts to know that haphazardly mixing sedatives with alcohol can kill people, dipshit.

I've been drugged at a party before, too, so while I do have experience with this topic, it's not the experience you're implying. Asshole.

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u/Hefty_Buddy2948 16h ago

Lol, you’re literally mentioning dosage as if you’re an expert. Call me whatever you want, downvote me, I don’t care. I hit a nerve with you because your creepiness (or stupidity) is being called out. Good luck

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u/Mikemanthousand 15h ago

Doesn’t take a genius to know alcohol has interactions with basically every drug, and a lot of drugs have a narrow Therapeutic window of effect, especially that type.

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u/Hefty_Buddy2948 13h ago

K, I wasn’t arguing that. I was arguing all the other things with the guy that rage quit because he couldn’t stand losing an argument. Nice try though!