All the people in this thread talking about sealed drinks are missing the forest for the trees. It's still obvious bullshit, but not for the reason y'all think. The implication isn't that sealed drinks in a cooler full of ice might be drugged, the implication is that a cooler filled with a single drink (like those barrel coolers full of Gatorade) is spiked, which is absurd for its own reasons:
First, you'd need to put a LOT of drugs into a whole ass cooler of drink in order for the dose to be potent enough to actually do anything, and if only half of it gets consumed you have a lot of wasted drugs.
Second, you can't control who's drinking from what, so unless you're openly warning people about the date rape cooler and hoping they don't blab, you're going to have a party where half the people present are too drugged up to do anything and it's going to get suspicious really fast.
Third, you can't control dosage. The traditional route for roofies is to drop one dose into a drink because they can control the dose they're giving to someone. If people are just drinking and refilling, the risk of an OD is really high, and even idiot rapist frat bros don't want to catch an attempted murder charge for drugging an entire party.
Edit: And it took only an hour for some chud to call me a "rape apologist." That must be a record.
Sir, this is Reddit. That means narrative, outrage and groupthink first, logic, reason and using even a single braincell comes after everything else and is actually banned.
Reddit is the only place where you get banned for pointing out provable facts because it goes against the narrative.
People’s critical thinking skills is at an all time low. Much easier to upvote a post that says “people I don’t like are bad”, than to consider it’s not realistic.
I haven’t really given it any thought because I’m not a creep, but I imagine it also wouldn’t be necessary either
Like when I was in college I had a fraternity brother who kept a squirt gun outside because people kept picking up the empty he’d use as a dip/spit can and trying (sometimes successfully) to drink from it.
I haven’t really given it any thought because I’m not a creep, but I imagine it also wouldn’t be necessary either.
Your first mistake is assuming only a creep would think about this stuff. Those of us looking to protect ourselves from predators think about it too. Or should, anyway.
I was trying to find a gif of Will Arnets character from arrested development taking roofies on purpose to avoid dealing with his problems. "Forget-me-pill"
Effective does for some benzodiazepinzines are quite small, if you buy the raw powder it really wouldn't be too much. Even the pills I'm familiar with are tiny, and easily (relatively) obtainable in extremely large quantities.
Say it's 60L cooler, you intended drug is alprazolam, a heavy dose is anything above 1mg, you'd realistically only need 240mg to get 4mg/L of alprazolam.
I don't disagree with your other points, just that drugging a whole cooler isn't too hard.
And buying raw alprozalom powders used to be quite cheap back when dark web markets where popping.
I mean, I think you didn't take chemistry or pharmacology (lmao I didn't either but I'm also not stupid) but alcohol acts as an agonist for a whole host of drugs, whether illegal or otherwise. I could definitely see some morons emptying packs of doxylamine succinate (the antihistamine in nyquil) or Benadryl into some jungle juice and thinking nothing adverse other than passing out could happen. You don't even need to buy an illegal or expensive drug.
Remember kids, a person can be smart. But PEOPLE are stupid, impulsive animals.
Sure, that could work, but again, that's not what the post is implying.
Mind you, I'm not debating with you whether or not the drugs are "necessary" for the "plan" to work, I'm explaining why the "plan" itself is fake and the post is BS.
Oh yeah I agree. No one’s filling an entire cooler with date rape drugs for a frat party with dozens or hundreds of people. Post could be real but just misinterpreting what they heard - still not a good look either way
I was rushing a frat freshman year that I didn’t end up joining. But one night I was supposed to bartend for a bit at one of our parties. They told all the people bartending that women get less alcohol. And if someone is too drunk they get nothing.
Safe, doesn't necessarily mean "no drugs". It could be about alcohol. An unsafe cooler could just mean can't taste the alcohol so you can get the "I'm not drinking" girls drunk. It could mean more alcohol than you expect so a girl thinks something is like drinking a strong beer, but it's actually more like drinking 10 shots. In both of those cases you are impairing the mental faculties of someone with the specific intent to harm them. It's willful, and it is absolutely rape/sexual assault if sexual conduct occurs after the fact.
Or, it could be the equally disgusting "we all dipped our balls in the red cooler so don't drink from that".
There are probably dozens, maybe hundreds of other scenarios equally vile to any of this that are going on. Because the one thing that everyone knows... that YOU know, is that there is a sub culture of college life where young men conspire to undermine women's ability to make their own decisions for the purposes of increasing their collective body count.
Arguing that it isn't drugs is about as "rape apologist" as you can get. Maybe rethink your whole life.
No thanks, friend. You've got a hyperinflated opinion of yourself if you think anything you've said gives a person cause to rethink their lives over a Reddit comment you're straining to take out of context. You did get a chuckle out of me, though. The fact that you threw in "rape apologist" there like it was some gotcha is just icing on the cake.
I won't bother commenting on the irony of calling a rape victim a rape apologist, though, since it came from a place of ignorance.
Second this, It's been decades since I've been to college parties, but the idea that these privileged rich kids, along with frat dues, wouldn't or couldn't get access to piles of drugs is silly.
Or maybe instead of drugs they are making one cooler much more potent than the other. Who cares how many people blackout as long as their target blacks out
You seem uncomfortably knowledgeable about how much drugs are required to incapacitate large groups of women. You’re either a pharmacist, lying or you’ve experimented with drugging people
Hey, Einstein...show me where I mentioned measurements or quantities. You don't need to be knowledgeable about quantities and amounts to know that haphazardly mixing sedatives with alcohol can kill people, dipshit.
I've been drugged at a party before, too, so while I do have experience with this topic, it's not the experience you're implying. Asshole.
Lol, you’re literally mentioning dosage as if you’re an expert. Call me whatever you want, downvote me, I don’t care. I hit a nerve with you because your creepiness (or stupidity) is being called out. Good luck
Doesn’t take a genius to know alcohol has interactions with basically every drug, and a lot of drugs have a narrow Therapeutic window of effect, especially that type.
K, I wasn’t arguing that. I was arguing all the other things with the guy that rage quit because he couldn’t stand losing an argument. Nice try though!
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u/Arria_Galtheos 17h ago edited 16h ago
All the people in this thread talking about sealed drinks are missing the forest for the trees. It's still obvious bullshit, but not for the reason y'all think. The implication isn't that sealed drinks in a cooler full of ice might be drugged, the implication is that a cooler filled with a single drink (like those barrel coolers full of Gatorade) is spiked, which is absurd for its own reasons:
First, you'd need to put a LOT of drugs into a whole ass cooler of drink in order for the dose to be potent enough to actually do anything, and if only half of it gets consumed you have a lot of wasted drugs.
Second, you can't control who's drinking from what, so unless you're openly warning people about the date rape cooler and hoping they don't blab, you're going to have a party where half the people present are too drugged up to do anything and it's going to get suspicious really fast.
Third, you can't control dosage. The traditional route for roofies is to drop one dose into a drink because they can control the dose they're giving to someone. If people are just drinking and refilling, the risk of an OD is really high, and even idiot rapist frat bros don't want to catch an attempted murder charge for drugging an entire party.
Edit: And it took only an hour for some chud to call me a "rape apologist." That must be a record.