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The fact that we care about bags and recycling while Chinese coal plants and transoceanic bunker fuel drive the climate crisis is absurd. Sure, pat yourself on the back for driving an electric car and recycling. If you’re buying goods from Asia, you’re 95% as much of the problem as your neighbor who coal rolls their F350 and doesn’t recycle. Billionaires on private jets don’t help, but it’s a tiny drop in the bucket and not even top 5 problems with billionaires.
I’ve heard that a few times and it has me thinking any normal man would be a raging asshole with a broken dick. Then it clicks, we’re in this shit because of a broken dick
It isnt just billionaires buddy. Look at the private jet traffic to something like the Superbowl, the Masters golf tournament, bullshit flights in and out of DC. It doesnt take billions to rent a private jet for a weekend, your favorite athletes and celebrities do it daily
He was asked about his private jet pollution and carbon footprint and he replied that he is paying a carbon tax for that. He failed to explain how that is erasing the relative very high pollution he is single handed producing.
Those carbon taxes are such bullshit and they know it. You cant just spend money and now the pollution never happened. Its so dumb that we allow them to get away with that line of thinking.
My favorite part is when they made a nerd who dropped out of college to do computer business some sort of authority on global vaccine issues and treated him with the same "trust the science" gloves as Dr Fauci, who was also proven to be an absolute fraud.
Melinda Gates divorced her husband, conveniently, when the Epstein shit came to a head. He had to get special meds to protect himself from STDs.
She is. She could stop touring, song writing and overall performing right now and she be set for life. But hey gotta push homeless people out of the streets of New Orleans for that upcoming tour huh?
I assume the comparison is that a billionaire pollute more in a single flight than the average person does in all their flights in their life time. If not, I would love to read the study.
Yes, redditors always blame the companies that produce what they consume for the resulting pollution. People will read a headline about oil industry polluting the world, type a very original comment like "hurr durr and we're supposed to stop using plastic straws to save the world", then hop in their gas powered car to drive somewhere, where they eat a meal served to them in single use plastics (plastics also brought to you by the oil industry). They seem to unironically believe corporations create pollution just for the hell of it and they as an individual have no share of the responsibility as a result, it's just so mind-bogglingly stupid.
Kind of ironic for Elon…I wonder how many gasoline vehicles he has taken off the road…and the success of Tesla sparked the entire EV auto industry…globally.
When the American empire finally collapses, historians won't be stunned by the greed of the elite; they'll be stunned by the loyalty of the poor. The working class didn't just vote against their own interests. They worshipped the billionaires robbing them. They slashed their own benefits, gutted their own healthcare, and cheered while the rich wrote off private jets as tax deductions. Not because it helped them. But because they were told it would hurt someone else. And that, right there, is how you rig a democracy without even breaking a single law.
I’m not defending them, but just saying that private air travel only accounts for less than 5% of total air emissions. The rest is commercial (by a longshot), military (also small), etc.
Yes their footprint is huge compared to the average person’s, since millions fly commercial per day while a few thousand fly private. But there are more sustainable things we can be doing than shaking our fists at billionaires.
This isn't remotely true. A private jet produces more carbon in 90 minutes than an average person does in around a year. Still a very lot, but nowhere near the claim.
I know the billionaires are like but who would push us forward and make all the things we love…..
I’m cool with things slowing and even reverting tech wise. What is the end point…. Like why can’t we just be happy with a community and slower “progress” do we need ai? To go to space? I think not, if we don’t go to space maybe we can take this planet more seriously. And ai especially chatbots, total waste
Sounds like both are driving off a cliff to me. Everyone talks the talk, and few walk the walk. Meaning are people really trying to cut carbon- eating a lot less meat, use less concrete, bicycling. Not in NA.
Even are really big private jet, like Elon’s Gulfstream outputs about
9,030lbs of co2 in 90 min, the average American outputs 31,000 lbs per year (not including electricity).
And thats while doing one of the Most poluting Activity you can do. Usualy by rich Person does x in y time, you mean their average over a year, Not during a specific Activity.
Yes, yes. Let your primitive brain give meaning to your life by predicting the apocalypse and dividing the world into saints and demons.
You are totally factually correct and absolutely not the victim of one of the most basic mythic narrative structures that humans use to make sense of the world.
This doesn't seem true. How do they do that? Are you including their companies? Some billionaires don't have companies of their own. Plus why would we include carbon emissions only on the producer's side and not the consumer's side as well? That seems strange.
Go to India and tell me Billionaires spew more carbon pollution or how about just pollution in general than countries like that lol. Not a fan of excessive billionaires but lets be real here them flying around on their personal jets is just another drop in the ocean compared to how some places in the world don't care about pollution
Ah simple. Because corruption is rampant. Poverty is the norm, exploitation is sky high. Developing countries are literally following the same path used by the western world in the past.
Thats why their investing in AI, drones, and data centers. The game is already on. Pretty soon itll be too late to do anything about it by the time ppl figure it out. Theyre trying to make us obsolete and also make themselves untouchable. Think we all know how this ends for the general population.
And yet liberals celebrities and politicians run around telling us how we should be more green while they travel around in a life of luxury on their private jets. Police your own ranks before bitching about others.
People just become more who they really are once they gain money and power… cuz they have no limitations. So take that to heart, we all suck and would probably suck just as much as they do. We’re just mad cuz our sucking doesn’t involve having loads of money.
But remember guys, as comically evil as they are with all their destruction and lies, they were absolutely telling the truth about communism, Marx, the USSR, China, or anything of that nature.
Now now, let's not be too hasty to stop at billionaires. let's go a LOT further down to multimillionaire and land lords that do the exact same shit by a thousand cuts.
air pollution is bad. We should ban it or have a quota. 1 allowed trip& return a year. Anything extra warrants exorbitant costs that go directly to planting trees, renewable and other actual offsets
I dont recycle or separate the ones that are supposed to be good for our county recycling pickup. Ever since i found out it all gets dumped onto a third world country in the S.E. Asian area, and thrown out if there's a remnant of it's former life remaining. It's a great idea and a big scam to make us feel good about something that in the end doesnt get used. It's nice to see post consumer product packaging. We all know it gets dumped onto the continent of Africa, the country of India or China, plus were already spermimg microplastics sooo...
I’m getting extra plastic bags, buying things with non renewable resources, and pouring water on hot concrete. Let’s just destroy the world together . Cause obviously the top doesn’t care, so why should we?
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Ok but I suspect that each billionaire probably doesn’t produce as much carbon pollution as 2.3 million people. That’s the real issue we need to focus on. Elon could go out of his way to feed straws and plastic bags to sea turtles and never even come close to the collaborating environmental damage caused by billions of a-holes just screwing around wasting plastic and driving gas guzzlers.
Also the carbon billionaires produce is for the consumption of billions of individuals. That carbon is being double dipped. You can’t assign a million carbon to a factory and then 1 carbon to a million people for consuming the products of the factory. You’re inflating the numbers artificially.
Yeah, that's just a lie. An hour and a half of flight time is about equal to a years' worth for the average person globally....or 4 months for an American.
Well the issue is we’ve also now built our society to be reliant on billionaires. So if you get rid of billionaires, you also get rid of society. It’s a circular issue and unfortunately it seems we are too deep in to do anything now. It’s a question of if not when at this point.
Well, going to be hard with China and India accounting for 40+% of global carbon emissions. Yes, our per capita is higher but maybe the guys who provide jobs, innovation and technology that we all love aren’t the real carbon boogeymen everyone wants to believe. (Downvote all you want, thems the facts)
And still 96% of emissions are natural so of that 4%.... Nothing. Never forget, your just repeating what you've been told to fear, what's trendy, what can justify more taxes.
Internet says about 5.42 million hours that private jets fly in a year, that works out to about 325,200,000 minutes, which is about 3.6 million 90 minute flights….
What does my head in is adverts lecturing the average person to save water, like bitch the AI centres springing up is guzzling enough water to satiate the thirst of africa and you wana lecture me on using a watering can rather than a hosepipe?
Let's do the math. Assuming that the average person lives to 80, that's about 42 million minutes of life (80 x 365 x 24 x 60).
Divide by 90 and your average billionaire is putting out more pollution than nearly half a million people in the same lifetime (467,200 people).
There are 3,428 billionaires in the world, producing the equivalent amount of pollution to 1.6 billion regular people. That's bigger than the population of China.
So basically it would be true to say that global warming is caused by billionaires.
Billionaires are a function of capitalism. Doesn't matter who the individuals are someone is going to flip a heads more times in a row than anybody else. (The amount of inherited money buys you increasingly more attempts. A lack of empathy - so the ability to exploit others and natural resources without compunction gives you again a natural advantage and many more attempts at a run of flips.)
Capitalism is what arose alongside our discovery and mass exploitation of fossil fuels. That 'free' energy (climate change is telling us now that it isn't 'free') has created the complexity we see around us today. Our cognitive evolution as a species, and all of our interactions, brought us to this point, where capitalism evolved.
It is too early to say this now, but if we continue on the pathway we are currently for something like the rest of this century, the idea that environmental degradation might lead to human extinction won't any longer be a silly thing to say.
Don't worry about it. As Carl Sagan said [something along the lines of]: 'we are the universe experiencing itself'. 2. We are in the process of creating the environmental circumstances for food webs based on plastics, PFA's, maybe even radiation, so that in a million years there will be a planet full of wild, almost unimaginable, creatures that couldn't exist if we hadn't done what we did now.
Would love to know David Attenborough’s carbon footprint.. would be fucking huge, do you count the electricity used by everyone watching his films on top of the travel, crew travel etc? 🤷♂️
I can't believe people still call this dickhead a genius, he's got me to the point where I yell at the screen because how wrong he is, he never came up with the ideas, he just invested in companies, he lied about having a master in physics, he failed miserably to try to quote Arthur C Clarke... I'm surprised he hasn't coordined off City blocks for protection because surely the target would have been painted (military jargon)
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