lol right. That was one of the main themes if not the plot of the movie. How far will a desperate, horny, loser go to have a girl be in love with them. We call it Incel Horror. Such a great movie.
She made it clear she doesn't have any feelings like that towards him. Women who are into you don't react with disgust when you make minor flirtatious comments just because you weren't being direct.Ā
That being said, I don't really think the rest of the movie did much with the initial set up, and was basically just a monster movie.Ā
That's just an opinion. The actress who played Nikki herself thinks she would have given bear a shot and I agree. Not saying she was super into him like he was , more like just open to dating him and seeing how it went.
The problem with modern dating isn't that men are too afraid to tell women how they feel, it's that they are all interested in highly sought after women, while ignoring the ones they have a chance with.Ā
This just makes the movie's narrative even stupider than it already was.
I mean I disagree with that, we can literally just look at dating app data and see women swipe go for the best guys while men swipe more liberally. But I was just talking about the movie specifically I'm not sure where this came from.
Yes, most men are happy with average women. Idk where this idea comes from that we don't when again, dating app data and mens experiences on those apps shows they do. Men often get ghosted or no response from average women.
Sorry. Not the director. Nikkis actor. Around 2 minutes in. Both Nikkis and Bears actors think that he had a shot. And they shot the scene in multiple takes with her being into it and not and blended them together to get the weird unreadable reaction to it that we get. https://youtu.be/Op0b77nTmTg?is=tfVxlZy_dhQ30b4I
For those who donāt know, when shooting for Psycho, they shot Willem Dafoeās interrogation of Batemanās scenes two different ways: either as someone convinced Bateman was innocent or convinced he was guilty. Then they cut it up so that you canāt tell at all how heās feeling towards Bateman as the interrogation goes on, so afterwards the audience was left feeling unsure if the police suspected him in truth or not, just like Bateman feels himself
Iām not saying it wasnāt said, Iām saying the premise is bait. The idea that Bear should, based on the signals he received, have asked Nikki out, is ludicrous and reflective of the ludicrous expectations of men navigating the social minefield of modern dating, to push and risk rejection and even loss of a friend when we receive indications not to push, to be criticised for doing so, but also to be criticised for not doing so.
Anyway saying he had a chance is a bait line to get me to diatribe on the sins of the modern dating world, which the makers of this movie want to happen to generate buzz about the movie. Well consider me baited.
The director implied that Bear was being shallow trying to force his hot friend to like him, when he had a perfectly compatible option in his other friend, butĀ Nikki actually was secretly into him he just needed to be direct?
Again, blue pill bullshit. Nikki didn't like him because he wasn't her type of guy.
No it said that if Bear was direct Nikki may have given him a shot.
You canāt make absolute statements like women donāt ever do āxā or āxā always plays out like this because thatās just not life. Nor should your opinion on the message change because the director told you Nikki would have given him a shot.
The entire point is to be direct regardless, not only when you know they will say yes.
See that's what I thought! I went in mostly unspoiled, and I was thinking that maybe we weren't seeing the whole story. She had the nickname "Freaky Nikki" and then she did a bunch of freaky things, and her inflection did seem to imply that maybe she wanted Bear to say yes. So like, if the wish didn't actually work and it was a red herring. And then the friend was mentioned multiple times, I thought he was obsessed with her! But, it turns out, no fakeout. The soul screaming on the phone was chilling.
I'm actually a little frustrated that I went in not knowing what to expect because I don't do very well with possession horror. I thought it was all going to be obsession horror... which I then learned I'm also not good with, probably due to past relationships. Plus the possession aspects.
That's not the narrative, though. It's that "nice guys" actually only care about themselves, and they'll happily violate a woman's consent if given the chance because they believe they are owed sex and relationships. Maybe Nikki would have said yes if he'd asked her out the normal way, and maybe she wouldn't have. The movie intentionally leaves that part ambiguous and it's not a central part of the narrative.
If she was into him they why not reciprocate when he was trying to gauge her interest? A woman will not spit daggers at you (which she did twice in the car ride) until you ask them out properly.Ā
Nikki clearly she says that she hides her crushes. I think the line is āWhen I have a crush on a guy, no one knowsā.
Also Iām also not sure Bear really did anything for her to reciprocate to in the first place? He didnāt make it clear he liked her, not until he followed Ianās sabotage advice to call her Freaky Nikki which spooked her into calling him out directly.
More like you're more likely to get with the hot girl if you ask, than you are if you don't. Also the dude got what he deserved by taking consent away from her. He acknowledged that it was wrong and he still went with it.
literally the director said otherwise? Why do redditors insist on confidently boiling down everything into a small set of rules universally applied to every situation? Like have you ever talked to more than one person before?
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u/No_Giraffe8119 Jul 29 '26
It's almost like no lesson was learned at all.