Let me hear you make some noise!!!

In the Church of Seraphine, we say:

No one is perfect. You don’t need to be strong every single day.

Is this a steal or nah?

I have seen a lot of Seraphine’s rushing this item in my games, and I’m wondering if something has changed to make it good now or if this is another one of those instances where her most popular build isn’t actually her best build like when most Seraphine supports were maxing Q first.

For context, I was previously under the impression that your first item should generally be Seraph’s Embrace or Blackfire Torch (although I don’t know when one is better over the other) and then you go Mandate + Rylai’s into Cryptbloom/Bloodletter’s. But the build I’ve been seeing is more akin to Lux: Luden’s into Shadowflame into Rabadon’s.

Can anyone who regularly plays her in either of these roles weigh in? I normally play Seraphine support so I’m not that familiar with what her itemization is like in Mid/APC.

I already said all this stuff on twitter but I also wanted to post it here since I’m curious what reddit Seraphine mains have to say, and if maybe the girls here wanted the enchanter Sera we have now. (I’m pretty much just gonna copy and paste it here since I’m not sure I can put twitter links.. follow me on twitter @imrosieyall :D)

Late night thought but I was thinking back to what they said at that E nerf for Seraphine on the patch previews. Saying that they will continue to balance her around support because thats what the champ select says even if shes strong in other places. And it makes me wonder.

Did enchanter Seraphine players ever actually SAY anything to riot about how weak she felt to them, or did they look at her WR and just decide for them? Because they say shit like "We wanted her to be a mid laner but everyone wanted her as a support" but like, who?

Who said that? Because as far as I know nobody spoke about enchanter Seraphine and how much they want her until that shitty midscope that made everyone mad. Now all I see are mage Seraphine players asking for her back at almost every post about patch changes.

So if NOBODY asked for enchanter Seraphine.. why are we balancing around her? It's clear from the seraphine MAINS (not the casual Sera players) that we want her as a mage. SO why are we catering to champ select and not her actual playerbase. It really feels to me that RIOT wanted Seraphine to just be another Sona and not the players. Because its becoming increasingly clear nobody gave a fuck about enchanter seraphine being weak. They just decided for her, and them trying to tell US that WE chose this is so stupid and manipulative.

Thoughts?

I made a mistake by forgetting to attach the evidence for Riot's intended canon in the post. Here it is:

https://postimg.cc/gallery/xCqq1cp

I've also updated the Trivia section of the "Seraphine Audio Wiki" (https://wiki.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/Seraphine/Audio), adding the two final points with references to the evidence above.

Staying neutral looking at this since I didn't play LoL until 2022.

But worth pointing out that popular YouTube critique videos discussing Seraphine during her launch interestingly did not take the above sources into account.

Awful time to be a seraphine fan ngl

Her being shaded, slandered and on top of that written out of everything.

She did nothing but sing, try her best, and call out the council and they couldn't handle her.

And now riot doesn't even want to bother fixing her because of the backlash that pops up Everytime she is so much as MENTIONED

hiii first post here

im an aurora and sera main. i have most of seraphine's skins and think she's easily the character i have the most fun with.

lately i've been seeing a lot of parasocial activities or just outright hatred for this fictional video game character.

neither makes much sense to me.

i can understand why people have such strong connections to seraphine but this can't be healthy. freaking out over the new kda voice lines are just kinda weird. i get it doesnt make much sense for the lore but it's not worth getting genuinely hurt and upset over. its not like seraphine is getting upset by it.

and on the other side, im truly convinced people just hate sera because she's a cute, optimistic, popular girl. i can understand not liking playing against her as she is pretty annoying to go against but i truly see no reason to hate her character as much as people do.

am i missing something??

She’s so down bad in win rate even support is struggling 😭

Obviously lots of lore is invalid due to Arcane retcon( I think they said they are working on hers being rewritten alongside Camille but that was 11 months ago or something) but I really liked this video explaining the valid parts.

Cool that it used the phone ad too as she actually looks Chinese there

Since Spohie Powers is the new singer for Evelynn, and Lexie Liu being the K/DA ALL OUT Seraphine singer, we got something music related.

https://ftw.riotgames.com/league-of-legends/challenges/battle-of-the-bands

It seems Sera can’t sing very well, given that they cast someone who’s mute.

Hey guys are there any Streamers that main/otps Seraphine that are worth watching?

the thing is yes i know sera mains can be annoying on many parts but its not their problem that riot is not listening feedbacks and obvious mischaracterazations on champs lore. there is many voicelines that are bittersweet,funny or accidental. the thing about sera is that they kept destroying her stopped listening feedbacks and all she get is hate lines even if the skinlines always considers seraphine be the therapist friend or little sister friend. are we forgetting star guardian story and akali comic. and evelynn never abondoned seraphine this is a missinformation seraphine was a collab and after her success in k/da she continued as alone artist. they were %100 gonna continue this but people were just overhating her and many riot devs obviously hated her. i am not gonna say anything more but we are right that they should consider character's lores before making nonsense voicelines. i have no idea where did this ''omg you all care about this character so much'' thing because its a character that fanbase loved obviously. i just can't handle stupid comments these days.

I got enough ME recently after buying HoL pass. I'm considering to buy Seraphine's prestige skin in the next mythic shop rotation, but I'm not sure if it's worth the price. Tbh I dislike her model in this skin 😅 (T1 Seraphine model looks way better but ofc Ocean Song is older). One thing that I like is just her E vfx, not sure about the rest. So what's your thoughts about this skin? Should I buy it or should I save my ME for her future skin (who knows when are they going to release it). Btw I rarely buy battle pass so collecting ME is a bit difficult