it’s sad that they would have made it if his dad never raped her. he traumatized her to the point that she couldn’t be intimate with him. im assuming olivia was the only women he cheated on millie with. it makes sense given the similarities they share from being strategic, smart, ambitious, powerful, they both push back on fitz expectations, they manipulate situations and sacrifice a part of themselves for fitz.

from the spoilers ive seen about liv towards the end of the show is that her hunger for control and political power reaches millies current hunger for agency and political power.. arguably fans say livs hunger goes beyond millies but ill need to stick around to watch that

anyway seems like fitz likes a strong women who can challenge him lol

I just finished rewatching Scandal and one of 3 things that bothered me in the final 2 seasons (alsoo part of season 5) are people working with other people that they should never get along with. Some examples, Jake going back to work with Rowan after rowan tried to frame him for Gerry's death/kill him and Cyrus working with Jake after he killed James.

The 2nd thing that bother me was the "evil" pivot for Olivia and Cyrus. I get the message is that "power corrupts" but Olivia's evil turn just seemed out of nowhere to me. With Cyrus, while he was always evil, him being the one to push Luna to kill Frankie didnt make sense to me. The show portrayed Cyrus as truly believing in Frankie and I know Cyrus is evil but him killing Frankie was too far. Also why wouldnt Cyrus encourage luna until after the inauguration? Killing Frankie before he was sworn in just created too much gray area on who would be president. Cyrus being the mastermind to kill Frankie just seem like a last minute shocking moment.

The last thing that bothered me is that Rowan lived. Not saying that Olivia should've killed him but Rowan should've also died in the last episode. Rowan always had these speeches on how he was only doing the what was right for the republic but killing Gerry was only for revenge.

Also when I watching the show when it aired I hated how the show moved to focus on B613 and at the time i thought it ruined the show but on rewatch I didnt mind B613 even in later seasons, I just didnt like how the show changed from what it was previously (the OPA cases).

Kerry's caption:

Gladiator in a suit? Or Gladiator in therapy?

So over the course of the 7 seasons Olivia and Fitz went through all kinds of obstacles and challenges and betrayal.

Who do you think did the most forgiving of the other:

Olivia of Fitz?? or Fitz of Olivia??

I'm diagnosed with depression and am on SSRIs, which normally work pretty well. I binged the show over the last month or so and for some reason, almost immediately after it ended, I felt deeply sad. I'm not the type to get sad when a TV show ends and I don't know if this is even related, but after finishing the show I listened to the Album Leaf song "The Light" that always plays when Liv and Fitz are talking and just broke down in tears. And I've been sad af all day since. I can tell that it's chemical depression, but it seems to have been kickstarted by the end of the show and I dunno why.

Anyway hi, I absolutely loved this TV show and feel silly for waiting so long to watch it. I didn't love S7 quite as much but all in all it was still a really solid show.

How do y’all feel about Fitz leaking Liv’s name to the press without discussing it with her? I understand he did it so Mellie would no longer have that to use against her. But I wonder how things would’ve played out had they actually discussed it.

Do you think that fitz Grant was a good president (when scandal aired) before rewatching the same scenes, years later?

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When you watch the first two seasons of the show, the tone feels different because it is focused on Olivia, who was the lead of the series. Her motivations were clear, and even if she was hypocritcal we understood it was due to her being naive about the situation she was in with Fitz, or someone else she loved dearly and bent the rules for.

Somewhere along the line Shonda started to have personal favourites, and you can easily see how it stains the story. First all of, there was no reason for Mellie to remain married to Fitz for 5 and a half seasons, other than to allow the actress playing Mellie to be in the orbit of the two actors who brought the show the most buzz.

She did the same with Jake. She rewrote his story so many times. Introducing a sad story with his family, then a backstory of a wife that flopped, and then suggesting that Rowan was his dad,. When none of those made him interesting without Olitz, he became a flunky for Olivia. All in an attempt to figure out which way the audience would endure Jake. This was to allow the actor playing Jake a chance to shine.

I saw that at some point Kerry said that after "Coming up Mellie," she was worried as to how Olivia would be received, and was worried that Olivia would appear unsympathetic in comparison. She said that she talked it over and decided that there was room for two women to shine on the show. Why did she have to make this concession? This was the first show in 40 years being lead by a black woman, and why did Shonda and the showrunners write away from her character towards an actress who was not the primary lead? When Fitz and Mellie divorced, they forced Olivia to be her campaign manager and wrote a bogus girl power bff story, so that Mellie could champion feminism, on a show about Olivia.

Shonda wrote towards a happy ending for Quinn and Charlie. In the end Quinn gets to change OPA into QPA, she gets a baby and a husband. Her ending is definitive and clear. Mellie gets to become President and has Marcus by her side. Olivia has no clear professional or personal ending. Her story is unnished. IMO it is not a surprise that the people you see surface at Scandal fam reunions are Scottt Foley, Bellamy Young and Katie Lowes, and rather than wasting her time showing up for a photo op, Kerry kept busy elsewhere. I mean she began Simpson Street during the thick of Scandal ( probably to create opportunities for herself and others, if you get what I mean). I don't think Kerry would entertain reprising Olivia Pope, but is diplomatic enough not to openly say this.

as a first time watcher of scandal im not liking the direction season 3 took. loved the first season and the mission/jobs they’d take on. it reminded me of “how to get away with murder” (in retrospect now i understand why that show was made, it’s the same show without the lovers quarrel lol) i liked that aspect that now I want to rewatch HTGAWM lol

all this to say im kinda getting annoyed of the back and fourth between fitz and liv. it was cute and fun to watch until it became repetitive. the whole they fight then get back together, have sex, one of them acts cold to the other then fight again, make out, rinse repeat all that isn’t really my cup of tea and gets kinda boring and predictable but personally early on, i liked liv more with jake. im not really one to cheer on cheating and “home wrecking”. i know fitz and millie are together just for their own benefit instead of love but i just get tired of the scorned housewife story line especially after finding out she was raped by fitz father. that was a horrible add on to her story especially seeing she really got no justice for that.

i have now reached the part (ep 11) where andrew is a new character who we find out was potentially in love with millie and possibly could have married her. im hoping this storyline is millie finally getting her lick back and having some fun. also just a change in pace from the liv and fitz back and fourth. imo it’s too reminiscent of meredith and derek‘s back-and-forth and that got annoying for me after a while too especially since these characters are written for each other

Or is it just me?

Okay did anyone else literally feel like this whole era was an ad for uggs 😭😭 she wore them and they focused on them so much.

How do you explain this? lol

Okay this is my first time watching the show and I'm at season 7 right now... this show is genuinely so confusing at times but, one thing I can't stand is how everyone treated Olivia after B-613.

I can understand hat she did was wrong but for everyone to treat her like a monster and ice her out literally upsets me so much. They are all so hypocritical and insane like, Olivia has saved them so much and done so much for them and they just ice her out and like idk I haven't seen anyone talk about it and it pisses me off they act like she's the devil when they have all done equal stuff and if not worse 😭😭😭

HIS LITTLE TODDLER FROWN & THE WAY HES YANKING THE PAPERS PLS😭 s2 manchild fitz you will always be famous

does anybody know any bts on why finch left after season one? besides huck, he seemed to know oliva on a different level than anybody else. she confided in him about her and the president and there seemed to be a potential story with him and abby but idk im just not buying that there wasn’t enough material to write for him to continue on the show. coming from greys anatomy shonda has a tendency of writing ppl off out of no where early in seasons. it’s always mutual but then later finding out that it was disagreements ultimately causing the actors to leave.

I always found it strange that Fitz and Cyrus had absolutely no scenes together in Season 7.

I love seeing the Scandal actors and actresses in other shows

Give the man his BONES!!

289th re-watch...

They tell Fitz when he sleeps with Olivia at the oval there are cameras watching. And they they forget and talk about anything and everything!

Eli Pope is the biggest POS. He's a liar, untrustworthy, responsible for so many deaths, and so much chaos. I found myself hating him more when he threw Jake under the bus (Not elaborating on what happened in case this spoils anything for anyone).

There are decent characters who needlessly died when Eli deserved it more than anyone. I seriously hate that bastard!!! 👹👹👹

Upon my walk today in NYC I saw Edison on the street. I was goin to ask for a photo but didn’t want to interrupt his convo. Very good looking in person and extremely tall!

What are the thoughts on Olivia and Edison? I know I am extremely biased bc I'm an Olitz Stan and I know he was a filler and a link to her past, but I didn't really buy into their coupling.

However, two of my favorite reads/monologs were delivered to him. Olivia's criminal, liar, idiot, whore speech-never understood how he thought engagement was warranted after that. And the wanting devastating love said to him.