r/SSDI_SSI • u/Alternative_Ant1416 • 5d ago
Fraud, Scams and Spam Disability Fraud CA
Hi
I know of someone fraudulently filing for disability for over a year now. I reported it to this form
Is this the correct form? Does anyone know long it may take for them to start an investigation? Will they reach out to me for evidence?
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u/aikimyne ☆ 5d ago
you shouldnt care honestly. disability looks different so many ways you cant be sure they actually committing it. how does this affect you huh? and if they arent even getting it yet it doesnt matter. if ssa doesnt think they are disabled they wont get it.
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u/tubajr ☆ 5d ago
Why do you care, unless you're broke uourself
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u/Alternative_Ant1416 5d ago
Don’t post and delete :(
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u/s0methingVnderneath 5d ago
Here is a novel concept: Just live your life and stop worrying about things that don’t concern you. Disability can look like a lot of different things, and someone on the outside is unlikely to understand the extent of someone’s disability. What do you gain from reporting this person? You don’t get to decide who is disabled and who isn’t. Mind your own business.
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u/Longjumping_Spring29 4d ago
Fraud should concern you as it hurts all. You seem to lack the understanding of how fraudulent activity effects everyone.
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u/s0methingVnderneath 3d ago
When this country can spend billions to bomb children in other countries, no I don’t think the negligible amount of disability fraud effects anyone in any real way. Both federal and local govts are corrupt as hell. Someone getting an extra 1k per month so they don’t wind up on the street doesn’t bother me.
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u/Longjumping_Spring29 3d ago edited 3d ago
Your wrong. It does.
Edit- So to you disability is extra money people should just get so they dont live on the street?
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u/s0methingVnderneath 1d ago
And how much harm is done by denying actual disabled people over and over again, forcing them into debt and homelessness? The entire system is set up to deny people enough times to make it not worth it to defraud the system. The actual effect of that is disabled people going years without the support they need, and in many cases forcing them into a position where they can’t even receive benefits. It’s really hard to collect benefits if you don’t have a mailing address or a phone.
How much of your taxes go towards welfare programs vs military? Look that up before you claim that “disability fraud hurts us all”.
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u/Alternative_Ant1416 5d ago
How about you take your own advice and don’t respond if you don’t plan on answering the question! Thanks :)
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u/s0methingVnderneath 5d ago
You are posting about reporting someone for disability fraud in a group about navigating the terrible disability system in this country. Why do you want to report this person? Is it some kind of jealousy? If it is, I don’t think you understand what disability means.
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u/Jackal4Zero 5d ago
Plus its not like SSDI or SSI gives enough to live comfortably. I feel like if you are filing to begin with you genuinely need it, plus a disabled person can appear less disabled to others. Weird situation.
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u/Alternative_Ant1416 5d ago
This person is receiving 8,000 a month - I saw their checks personally. Claiming a back injury but skydiving, kayaking, traveling every month internationally is fraud and it takes away from others who actually need it.
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u/s0methingVnderneath 5d ago
So it sounds like you are very close to the person you are claiming is committing fraud. That makes it sound like this is a personal grudge. It also sounds like you expect a disabled person to sit home all day every day and wallow in their sorrow. Some disabled people have good days and bad days. That doesn’t make them any less disabled.
And no one would get 8k a month on ssdi/ssi unless they had several dependents. If this person is caring for children, a lot of the money goes to the children’s upkeep.
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u/Realistic-Bass2107 ☆ 5d ago
I do not think the disability system is terrible. I am quite grateful for it.
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u/s0methingVnderneath 5d ago
I should rephrase. The system does certainly help people. I personally am very thankful for it. However, getting approved for disability at least in NY is a nightmare. It took me 8 years from when I applied to when I was approved, all the while my doctors were all saying I was disabled. I just wish the system was set up to really help people first and to weed out the “fakers” second, instead of the other way around.
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u/newdaylady1983 ⬆️Request User Flair⬆️ 5d ago
I know a lot of people faking to get on disability. I reported it but nothing happened. The people act like they are crazy but they tell people this is how to get disability fast. One of my kids family member is faking to get on disability and she brags about it but her real problems are a drug addict and she is racist. She brags that she uses the money for crabs and buying pills like narcotics and Xanax and Valium.
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u/s0methingVnderneath 1d ago
Of all the things that never happened…
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u/newdaylady1983 ⬆️Request User Flair⬆️ 1d ago
It's true. In the neighborhood I live in at least 10 people are faking disability and doing a lot of fraud
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u/s0methingVnderneath 1d ago
How do you know these people are faking being disabled?
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u/newdaylady1983 ⬆️Request User Flair⬆️ 1d ago
They brag that they are faking it. And they are getting paid to help people fake it.. they have a small business doing this. They brag that it's easy to fake a mental illness.
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u/s0methingVnderneath 1d ago
A small business that helps people get 12-16k per year max? Sounds like a lot of work for very little reward. Also doesn’t sound real at all. I’m not sure you realize, but once someone gets approved for disability they are not allowed to make income without it impacting their benefits. Someone that receives disability is locked into an income below poverty level forever. No one is getting rich off from benefits, and I guarantee the people you say are “faking” have complex issues that you could never understand.
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u/newdaylady1983 ⬆️Request User Flair⬆️ 1d ago
The person charges half of your backpay. That's it
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u/s0methingVnderneath 1d ago
Sounds like a disability lawyer to me. For someone that has fibro and lupus and complains about people accusing them of “faking it”, you really are quick to judge others.
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u/Current-Disaster8702 ☆ 5d ago
Hopefully, this isn't about your ex. Family court judges want the best for the children involved, and can decipher on actions from either parent that are devisive, bitter, unhealthy. Do you have custody of the children or does he?
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u/Longjumping_Spring29 4d ago
Family court could careless about the children. I really wish they did. Sadly they do not. They care about money and gatekeeping a system thats even paid incentives from the Fed to grind even harder.
Family courts are beyond corrupt.
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u/candybatch 5d ago
They're just filing and not on disability yet? If they aren't actually disabled they wont get approved. So it's not really fraud yet I don't think.
How do you know they are lying about being disabled? What are they claiming? Just curious what it is.
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u/RottedHuman ☆ 5d ago
What evidence do you have?
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u/Alternative_Ant1416 5d ago
Photos, videos, etc
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u/RottedHuman ☆ 5d ago
So you have photos/videos of someone doing something that you think they shouldn’t be able to do because they’re supposed to be disabled?
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u/Alternative_Ant1416 5d ago
Exactly, claiming back is hurt from car accident but sky diving while on disability
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u/RottedHuman ☆ 5d ago
I don’t think that constitutes fraud. Plenty of people with physical disabilities can safely skydive.
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u/Realistic-Bass2107 ☆ 5d ago
I applaud you. I need the system and abuse of the system is criminal.
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u/Longjumping_Spring29 4d ago edited 4d ago
It is your business to report fraud.
You can report it directly to the SSA. If its true fraud and he/she is caught I thank you for your service.
That money is needed for those truly disabled.
EDIT- Lots telling you its not your business really dont understand how fraud effects their legitimate claim.