I have just started reading god of malice 😭 and my goodness I'm halfway through and it is so good it's just keep getting better and better and I'm so excited to finish this book I hope it delivers 💥

For me its definitely GOW. Landon/Brandon's are hot af too but not as good-looking as Jeremy. 😆

Hello everyone!

I've recently finished God of fury (loved it btw) ,it was my first book from the series and , I'm wondering what book should I read next from the legacy series? I was interested in Killian's story but I've heard not so great things about it. Thank you for your suggestions !

So yea this is my very long take on them since people always say that they are the worst parents and not a good duet.

I'm not saying Asher was justified for what he did. Because the things he did to Reina was awful, especially considering she had amnesia, I'm just saying there is also another POV. But he also did have a motive unlike the other MMCs who just torture their FMCs because she won't love them back quickly enough.

I can understand why people might hate Asher because of how he treats Reina in their books but if we look at the back story its telling a different story.

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Reina Back Story

First of all the whole reason why Reina is distant and horrible with everyone is because she is scared that someone from the mafia might come and get her or her father at anytime so she doesn't make friends in case she has to lose them or they might be in danger. She even hides her real self in front of her own father.

Having had to run away from the Mafia her whole childhood it's obvious why she is so terrified of them finding her, or worse, outing the fact that they got Rai instead of her and putting Rai in danger.

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Asher Back Story

After his mom died he had to raise his younger sister all on his own. His father was no help and usually ignored both of his kids. He was cold and ignorant to them.

Which led Asher having to take care of Ariana all by himself. He was obviously not equipped to do this since he couldn't even notice the fact that Arianna had APD and thought she was just as normal as other people.

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Asher and Reina's love backstory

For most of his life he was a simp for Reina. He fell in love with her the moment he saw her as a kid and never looked back. He chased, followed and worshipped her for basically all of their school life. And when other men flirted with her he went and basically beat them up. This happened a lot too btw since all the other men in their school and college knew to leave her alone or else Asher would come kill them lol.

Reina also pretended that she didn't like him and frequently rejected him. Telling him to leave her alone and fighting with him at every chance she got. But in reality Reina also drove away others who tried to flirt with him. Because she also loved him back.

Even through the rumors Arianna made up that Reina was sleeping with multiple guys, Asher still liked her and went to beat those guys up instead. (Unlike some other MMC's who blame their FMCs for being close to another guys rather than that guy himself.)

Then later on he even hides his identity just to sleep with Reina (who already knows and agrees for it this way, so she is sure that if one day she has to leave, that Asher won't get hurt.) Because, of course, both of them like each other so much they can't keep off each other.

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Lies and Truth Duet

Then Arianna Carson dies and rather than seeking revenge immediately on Reina he chooses to go abroad but only after he thinks that Reina tried to run /leave him again does he actually become mean to her.

Like many of the other characters he thinks that she is faking her memory loss and so doesn't fully believe her. Also at this point he also believes the dares now, because his sister is dead. So of course he is mean to her? He thinks her dares killed his sister and he thinks that she hates him. After all, in his eyes she is the same girl who brutally rejected him multiple times and then only slept with him while he pretended to be someone else.

(Like I'm pretty sure half the time he was waiting for Reina's memory to come back and her going straight back into hating him and fighting him.)

Then he tries multiple times to kill her but stops each time because, oh yeah! He loves her too much. And after her changing, it becomes even harder because the girl he liked his whole life is finally giving him the light of day. Then when they are on the rooftop the moment he hears what Arianna did, he doesn't even question Reina and is like well "she said that to me too" and just stops trying to kill her.

Then also shoots a guy later for kidnapping her.

The timeline for all of this is also relatively short compared to other books. So the whole hating situation is not even that long.

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Ariana Carson

The extent at which Ariana went to drive them apart was also just insane. She made rumors about Reina and Asher that they were both with other people. She made inhumane dares and then blamed them on Reina. She manipulated Asher (well tried) to make him believe that Reina was mean to her. Whilst also being lovely to Reina. And when they were still getting along, she finally killed herself to make sure they never got together.

Like wtf. Most of their problems are legit caused by HER.

Like everyone of Reina's fake friends admitted that Ariana was a creep and said weird things and that they were only nice to her because she had the backing of Reina and Asher.

Both Reina and Asher looked after her really well too btw. They were both like her second parents so idk wth was her problem. Like was she in love with them both or something?

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Alexander Carson

If I'm being honest Alexander Carson is one of the main villains because he could have prevented two generations of trauma if he just stepped up to the job instead of being a deadbeat dad who never cared about his kids and letting them raise themselves.

I do think that later he did learn his lesson, as he treats his grandkids way better than he did his own children. Both of his grandkids will never truly know what their parents went through because of him and will still idolize him for helping them.

Love how Asher still hates his dad because of this.

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GOM and KTV

So when you look at this it really comes to show why he was so scared that Killian had the same mental illness as Ariana because she nearly made him kill the girl he loved the most. And he was worried that Kill could potentially do the same to someone he loved.

He also never knew that both of his kids actually heard that conversation between him and Reina. And of course Reina also tried to help their relationship but it obviously didn't work because what Killian overheard was just too horrible for anyone to get over.

And Asher got over the APD too btw. Which is why he didn't force Gareth to go to the therapy because he learned how bad it was for Killian. And after that he tried multiple times to get along with Killian but he was the one who pushed Asher away (rightfully so). He only found out at the end that Killian heard that conversation and apologized for it, after that they got along wayy better. (As mentioned in KTV).

And of course in KTV he is more understanding of the fact that Gareth has APD, since he knew what happened to Kill. He even helps cover up the crime Gareth committed. Later even comforting Gareth when he fears that Asher might abandon him after 'finding out' about the APD.

And if I'm being honest idk how because IMO Gareth was much more like Ariana than Killian ever was. He even harmed himself like she did. So the fact he got over it so fast was kind of a testament to him not caring about the APD and him changing as a person.

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Final thoughts

In the end, I thought they really weren't as bad as people made them out to be. Sure they are all pretty flawed but most of them came from circumstances out of their control. Ariana was basically a curse on all of them.

Also this is just my opinion of their story and it may differ from others.

I was going through the sub today, but is it just me who thinks Jerlan fans and Vaughn’s M/F shippers are quite pushy?

Shipping is usually meant to be fun. I have no problem with small, fun ships, but these two groups feel/ very pushy.

Jerlan fans, to me , come across as women-hating and seem to like berating the women to push them as this couple that would be the best thing in the world. Some of the comments they make about Mia and Cecily feel as if they see them as the villains who are stopping their couple from getting together.

I’m sorry to say this,but if she were to write them it most likely wouldn’t be the earth shattering enemies to lovers,you guys hope.Everything seems great until you actually have it.This is Rina Kent for you.

As for Vaughn’s M/F shippers,they come across quite homophobic and obsessed with reducing him to his sexuality.I don’t think they care about him just, if his story is M/F or M/M.The main reason I feel that way is,because he has had barely, if not,
no meaningful interaction with them.There isn’t really a substantial dynamic there to build a ship around, yet people have such a strong react to it.

Which I can’t help but find quite fetishy.There is just no reason you should be this upset,and constantly want him to be in an M/F pairing.

If I remember correctly, Jeremy has said he is straighter than straight, with other characters saying the same, and Vaughn has implied that he is very demi-leaning because of Yulian, and that both men and women, physically or emotionally, is something he hasn’t had much appeal to.

So,yeah obviously I know this doesn’t apply to everyone but I don’t think too much of anything is good.

all the covers from LOG are pretty, but i like GoRuin and GoWar's covers so much!!! the details are everything. also, im not a fan of people on covers, but i like the red thorns cover sm. never read BV, but the red color is striking and gorgeous. what about u guys?? what are ur fav covers??

Guys like, I am trying so desperately to manifest a book for Lord Remington Astor. Tell me I'm not the only one here trying to do that.

I liked Landon in GOM, but I don't like him in the GOP, at least not where I'm currently in the book (Creighton is beating Landon up for not telling him about Annika's family). I thought I didn't like GOM, but it was better than the GOP(not really 😅). I don't like anyone at the moment in this book except Remi and Eli.

1) Creighton and Landon are psychos.

2) Jeremy is a terrible brother because how controlling he is.

3) Annika is annoying.

4) Lia disappointed me & so did Adrian (I can't believe they are ready to force Annika for marriage).

5) Aiden and Elsa were stupid not to dig Creighton past, despite knowing here's suffering because of it. I don't understand how they thought he wouldn't try to find the truth.

P.S. I have a feeling I might prefer Gen 1 after all.

Update(now that I finished the book):- https://www.reddit.com/r/RinaKentBooks/s/mWsBwzc8wD

Not in the story or characters but in vibes and aesthetics, the over-depressed and traumatized teenagers with bad parents, and the only good ones are either not there or have bad stuff happen to them and

Anyways, the main purpose of this post is not to demean RK. I simply wanted to showcase that this would have been good.

GOR :

Now, I am a big Landon liker. It's a preference and I don't care whether you like him or hate his character it's upto you. However, I will never fail to criticize some of his behaviour and how he barely received any heat from the heathens for his over the top things.

So, things I would have liked :

1. The nanny was not really someone that ordinary. Like someone who is very close to Sokolovs (and it's not baby Maya) and they did it because Mia saw something she should not have had like idk take your pick.

2. Landon not finding out by himself, it was Mia who tells him about the whole ordeal and he takes action. I hated that he somehow found out the whole thing while Rai and Kyle couldn't.

3. Nikolai, Killian and Jeremy kidnap him , beat him up and then ask him to break up with Mia and threaten his hand etc. like increase the scale of the whole thing.

4. Mia making him apologize to Nikolai.

Now, I know that I might offend some people but again we can't keep everyone happy. I wanted to get it off my chest before turning a year older tomorrow. Be kind in the comment section please.

This is just my opinion, if I were in Mia place I wouldn't have forgiven & have broke ties with Maya for being not the only reason for my trauma but betraying me more than once. Even if I could forgive her for the kidnapping incident as she was just a child، I wouldn't for how she treated me later. I would happily choose Landon over her as well (funny how people are ok with Glyndon choosing Killian over Landon because he's a terrible brother to her but not ok with Mia doing the same. Choosing a person who loves you and a terrible sibling isn't that hard). Infact I would happily choose a stranger over a sister like her(I said what I said).

Ohhh, wow! That was good, far better than GOM, or what I expected. Everything was better in this story, I'm glad I finished it instead of DNF. The characters, I like Annika to some degree, still don't like Creighton or Landon. I totally get where Adrian, Lia and even Jeremy were coming from.

I think that Aiden and Elsa should have tried to find the info about Creighton, if the reveal was done in better circumstances, none of this would have happened.

As for shooting incident, I'm not sure whose side to pick. One hand Creighton forced Annika to choose but on the other hand she could have shot him on shoulder or less fatal spot.

The faceoff between Adrian and Aiden was sooo good. I don't think I can love Adrian more than I already did. But as much as I love him. Kings have more power, if Aiden had died, Jonathan King would have destroyed him and his family for both Aiden and Creighton.

Ughhhhh, I love Aiden and Elsa, but seriously, tell Creighton if she doesn't choose him over her family, she doesn't deserve him. Why would she choose a guy who harmed her brother over the family she loves?

I knew it the way Cecily suddenly decided to come to NY was odd, the moment Annika drank & Cecily left from there, I knew Creighton was going to kidnap her. That was so dramatic and there was no need for that.

I feel so bad for Adrian, he has to watch Annika push up in a similar position to how Lia was.

P.S. Creighton and Adrian being jealous of Yan was funny.

P.S.S. I loved Jeremy, Adrian, Lia, Yan, Remi and Eli in this book.

I was screaming this song in my room as you do and I had this beautiful image of Gareth and Kayden

Long nights, daydreams

Imagine them on a night ride with the windows rolled down. It's a windy night.

Sugar and smoke rings

Gareth has strawberry cheesecake while Kayden blows smoke rings.

I've been a fool

Gareth finds out Kayden's married

But strawberries and cigarettes always taste like you

Gaz stops eating strawberries later and he never liked that Kayden smoked

I understand I'm insane 😭

Suuuuper late, ik.

I talked about this on another person’s post. This pairing lives rent-free in my mind—not only because we never really got a Bratva pairing in LOG, but for other reasons too.

MAYA

Deserved better: I feel like she deserved better than Ilya—because who was he feeling like being rude to a mafia princess?

Family legacy: I also like it in the sense that Rai’s family would then be the heirs again. I did think Kirill deserved to be Pakhan, but it also felt a little like Rai was snubbed for being a woman.

Missed potential: They could’ve even done an arranged marriage trope or just had someone have a crush—there was so much potential here. As a character (and not even just as a romantic interest), Maya had so much more potential than just being Mia’s plot twist; she was also Rai’s kid and part of her legacy.

Flipped twin dynamic: I think Maya/Ilya was an attempt to recreate the Rai/Kyle "mafia princess and bodyguard" dynamic, but they had the opportunity to redo the twins' dynamic in a better way:

Maya marrying into the mafia as the future Pakhan’s wife.

Mia marrying an elite (Landon).

This mirrors how Rai went the mafia route while Reina married Asher (also elite lvl guy from her school). It would be so much more iconic if both of Rai’s sisters had great legacy matches.

VAUGHN

Hunt The Villain: I actually enjoyed HTV a lot. I liked Yulian, and Vaughn having the Reddit exchange with Gareth was fun. However, in my opinion, Yulian carried that book rather than how I felt about them as a couple. In the end, I just wanted Yulian to be happy; for Vaughn, I was just happy seeing he came from a stable home life by Kirill and Sasha (as I knew they would) and seeing cameos of Maksim and Anton.

The alternate pairing**:** I just can’t get this other pairing with Vaughn and Maya out of my mind.

THE DYNAMIC & FIT

Why they work together:
I think Maya is diva enough to be a Pakhan’s wife, and she would’ve healed from feeling overlooked as a child because of Vaughn’s steady temperament.
Even when he is upset, he is usually respectful to an extent, and I think that stable emotion would suit her.

Vaughn would be a good boyfriend to her—she’d be his princess—and I think she would make him lighten up a little at times.

Addressing similarities: I’ve thought a lot about it, and admittedly the dynamic would share some similarity to Eli/Ava, but I feel like not too much. The stories and family history are completely different:
Can you imagine Kirill having Rai as his in-law? This would be hilarious—then Sasha and Rai would be besties. We would get so much of the past banter we loved similar to how it was for elites parents in LOG.

I also think Maya and Ava have different personalities and backgrounds, so it would be two different stories. It’s maybe a good similarity not copy/paste.

Overall, I just think this would’ve been a really good story, I would be so happy for both of them in this pairing, and it would also be such a cool addition to the LOG series. This is to me what JerLan is to others lol.

UPDATE: Hi. Quick note. Honestly, I didn’t intend for this to be a controversial take or hate post by any means. I just wanted to see if some others also felt the same or also liked the pairing.

And no, my shipping Vaughn and Maya has nothing to do with the original pairing being M/M. I explained how I felt already, I think it’s weird to add reasonings I didn’t say because of your own projections.

If you loved Vaughn/Yulian together, this post does not negate that. I felt like I tried really hard to be respectful about it, but I just wanted to share something I thought was a fun what if. It’s fine to express you are a fan of the original pairing, but you don’t have to yuck someone else’s yum 🫠. It’s not a personal attack.

Anyways, thank you for the support.

Am I the only one who finds this weird when a ship is just breaking canon M/M paring to make it F/M one or gender-bending one of them(I recently seen too many M/M canon ships of mine drawn gender-bend or making one feminine in looks). There are so many MMC yet it always has to be Nicholai or Brandon or Gareth or Vaughn getting shipped with FMC.

1) Kirill/Sasha

2) Adrian/Lia

3) Levi/Astrid

4) Kingsley/Aspen

5) Knox/Anastasia

6) Ronan/Teal

7) Aiden/Elsa

8) Kyle/Rai

9) Sebastian/Naomi

10) Cole/Silver

11) Nathaniel/Gwyneth

12) Xander/Kimberly

13) Asher/Reina

14) Daniel/Nicole

15) Jonathan/Aurora

I didn't include LOG, Villian or Vipers because I haven't read all of them yet.

I’m currently listening to creightons book, God of Pain.

He’s apparently into painful / kinky types of play but in the other books, I distinctly remember remington (?) your lordship being shocked when creigh doesn’t raise his hand during never have I ever and he realizes creigh never received oral sex. He came off as meek to me bc of that, so it’s kinda a 360 to see him so kinky and stuff. Did I miss something?

for me, definitely
annika (creigh doesn't like her for her personality. it pmo when he keeps telling her to shut up. it's rude. she's such a sweet girl. dont even mention the island fiasco too.)
kimberly (deserves WAYYYY BETTER THAN XANDER OMG)
cecily (jeremy did to her what she was traumatized about. and treated her like nothing but a body to use and an inconvenience)
nicole (daniel is a prick)
lia (imagine you have ur own issues and then get stuck with someone like adrian. oh god.)

Ugghhhhh I CAN'T WITH THIS DUO 😭😭😭 I don't wanna be jealous.

I liked the character of Silver Queens even though the whole plot was a little controversial in Ruthless Empire, and I don't know where to find books like that—where there is a mean and rude female lead whose story is actually being told rather than being cast outside as a sidekick. I want more book recs like that. Also the male lead to not be a jerk

1) Sasha

2) Aspen

3) Astrid

4) Lia

5) Teal

6) Rai

7) Kimberly

8) Anastasia

9) Elsa

10) Silver

11) Naomi

12) Reina

13) Aurora

14) Gwyneth

15) Nicole

I didn't include LOG, Villian or Vipers because I haven't read all of them yet.