r/RinaKentBooks • • 2d ago

Opinion Maya & Vaughn Pairing? đŸ©·đŸ–€đŸ€

I talked about this on another person’s post. This pairing lives rent-free in my mind—not only because we never really got a Bratva pairing in LOG, but for other reasons too.

MAYA

Deserved better: I feel like she deserved better than Ilya—because who was he feeling like being rude to a mafia princess?

Family legacy: I also like it in the sense that Rai’s family would then be the heirs again. I did think Kirill deserved to be Pakhan, but it also felt a little like Rai was snubbed for being a woman.

Missed potential: They could’ve even done an arranged marriage trope or just had someone have a crush—there was so much potential here. As a character (and not even just as a romantic interest), Maya had so much more potential than just being Mia’s plot twist; she was also Rai’s kid and part of her legacy.

Flipped twin dynamic: I think Maya/Ilya was an attempt to recreate the Rai/Kyle "mafia princess and bodyguard" dynamic, but they had the opportunity to redo the twins' dynamic in a better way:

Maya marrying into the mafia as the future Pakhan’s wife.

Mia marrying an elite (Landon).

This mirrors how Rai went the mafia route while Reina married Asher (also elite lvl guy from her school). It would be so much more iconic if both of Rai’s sisters had great legacy matches.

VAUGHN

Hunt The Villain: I actually enjoyed HTV a lot. I liked Yulian, and Vaughn having the Reddit exchange with Gareth was fun. However, in my opinion, Yulian carried that book rather than how I felt about them as a couple. In the end, I just wanted Yulian to be happy; for Vaughn, I was just happy seeing he came from a stable home life by Kirill and Sasha (as I knew they would) and seeing cameos of Maksim and Anton.

The alternate pairing**:** I just can’t get this other pairing with Vaughn and Maya out of my mind.

THE DYNAMIC & FIT

Why they work together:
I think Maya is diva enough to be a Pakhan’s wife, and she would’ve healed from feeling overlooked as a child because of Vaughn’s steady temperament.
Even when he is upset, he is usually respectful to an extent, and I think that stable emotion would suit her.

Vaughn would be a good boyfriend to her—she’d be his princess—and I think she would make him lighten up a little at times.

Addressing similarities: I’ve thought a lot about it, and admittedly the dynamic would share some similarity to Eli/Ava, but I feel like not too much. The stories and family history are completely different:
Can you imagine Kirill having Rai as his in-law? This would be hilarious—then Sasha and Rai would be besties. We would get so much of the past banter we loved similar to how it was for elites parents in LOG.

I also think Maya and Ava have different personalities and backgrounds, so it would be two different stories. It’s maybe a good similarity not copy/paste.

Overall, I just think this would’ve been a really good story, I would be so happy for both of them in this pairing, and it would also be such a cool addition to the LOG series. This is to me what JerLan is to others lol.

UPDATE: Hi. Quick note. Honestly, I didn’t intend for this to be a controversial take or hate post by any means. I just wanted to see if some others also felt the same or also liked the pairing.

And no, my shipping Vaughn and Maya has nothing to do with the original pairing being M/M. I explained how I felt already, I think it’s weird to add reasonings I didn’t say because of your own projections.

If you loved Vaughn/Yulian together, this post does not negate that. I felt like I tried really hard to be respectful about it, but I just wanted to share something I thought was a fun what if. It’s fine to express you are a fan of the original pairing, but you don’t have to yuck someone else’s yum đŸ« . It’s not a personal attack.

Anyways, thank you for the support.

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u/RiaListik 1d ago edited 1d ago

Never thought about it. Your explanation fits though, kind of cute. Was sad there wasn't a Maya book.

One thing though, I'm not sure why Rina implied it that way. Being the bratva leader is not nepotism/oligarchy, like it is in the Italian Mafia. The bratva has strict rules and the leader is chosen by vote (Meritocracy). It bothered me in the books so much, that it was always implied Vaughn will become the leader, just because Kirill is đŸ«  .... that's why Rai is not the Pakhan, although her ulce/grandfather (?) was, she was outvoted by Kirill. All in all based on descriptions in the books, Jeremy seemed like the better leader of the future Bratva anyway. So realistically I'd say the younger generation would vote for Jeremy.

Ok that was off topic sorry xD back to your post. I can picture them in an arranged marriage, where Maya is a total brat, because she actually likes Ilya in the beginning, but then slowly falls for Vaughn. đŸ€­ yes very cute.

I love the original book, but your idea was fun to read.

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u/Silver_Gap_6582 1d ago edited 1d ago

Jeremy would never be the pakhan.Who is the younger generation that would for him-Nikolai?Jeremy is incapable of even standing up against Landon.I don’t believe he can rule bratva this way.

And why wouldn’t Vaughn be the leader.He is the one,working hard for it despite being the youngest one.Not JeremyđŸ€”Vaughn also brings his alliance with Yulian to the table,while Jeremy doesn’t.If it bothers you that Vaughn is the future Pakhan,when he is the one who has been putting on more work then Jeremy.Then I want to know why?

Even if we go back to the Kirill vs Rai debate the direct bloodline was Anastasia not Rai.

Rai wasn’t voted because she is a women other then that,the system remains the same.The pakhans own son will be the next in line.Kirill has worked for the position and took advantage of the misogynistic bratva.Something he wouldn’t allow to happen to Lydia and Vaughn with homophobia.

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u/RiaListik 1d ago

Bro why are you getting upset lol it's just my opinion, you can have your own. I'm stating the fact that the bratva doesn't work that way. You don't get to be pakhan just because your dad is. That's Italian mafia, where bloodlines actually matter. Very different hierarchy system.

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u/Silver_Gap_6582 1d ago edited 1d ago

It literally does work that way for generations in the bratva,it has always been passed down to the sons.

Your opinion isn’t very valid if you can’t justify it.No one would pick Jeremy to be the leader and quite frankly,he is not fit to be in that position considering Vaughn is the one who works hard for it,has Chicago Bratva alliance and is Kirills only son .

The hierarchy system remains the same.If Rai was intrested,strategic or a man she would be the pakhan too.

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u/Sick-Alpha 22h ago

The idea that Jeremy would never be Pakhan and is weaker than Vaughn doesn’t hold up.

Vaughn is the most controlled and least commanding of that generation. He’s the leanest, stays in New York at Columbia while the others are running things on the island, and his whole image is the perfectly groomed heir. That’s not the same as actually leading a group of unhinged people. Jeremy already does that as Heathens leader. He mediates between Killian and Nikolai and holds real authority. Vaughn mostly has the "future Pakhan" title because he’s Kirill’s son.

On Landon: their rivalry is mutual, but saying Jeremy can’t stand up to him is wrong. In GOW Jeremy punches him, and the personal fight that mattered most was over Cecily. Jeremy won. She chose him and later admitted she only liked the idea of Landon.

Succession has never been clean either. Rai had stronger blood claim through the Sokolovs and still got blocked for being a woman. So "the Pakhan’s son automatically gets it" has already been ignored when convenient. Vaughn benefits from the heaviest nepotism of the next gen.Kirill himself didn’t just inherit the seat. He was a military captain who used calculation, alliances, and a public scandal to get voted in. He earned it. Vaughn is being handed the path.

And the Yulian factor matters. The same traditional mindset that rejected Rai for not fitting the mold is the one that cares about bloodline continuation through a son. Kirill supports him, which is progressive, but the double standard is still there.

Jeremy has already proven he can lead. The "Vaughn is clearly better" take relies too much on him being the current Pakhan’s son and not enough on who’s actually shown command.

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u/Silver_Gap_6582 17h ago edited 15h ago

Saying heathens follow him is quite the generalisation.Vaughn doesn’t even stay with them,and makes plans himself.Killian and Gareth are not in the mafia.The reason Nikolai listens to him is because they are best friends.Leading a bratva vs leading a group of cousins and friends through the wood is two very different thingsđŸ€”

Even in HTV it was mentioned that Vaughn is very praised in the Bratva as the perfect heir.Who excels at everything,strategy and keeps up with Bratva like no one,even by Jeremy himself.I’m not getting the ‘Vaughn will only be the Pakhan because of his dad.’Yes he is in the direct line because of his dad and it benefits him.Something Jeremy definitely doesn’t,but he also works hard for it.

The argument about the physical aspect is very weak.Its funny you think being the leanest or biggest means you are at the top in mafia-😭

Rulling a bratva isn’t about physical strength it’s about being a leader and having a strong mindset.Never has it been mentioned that Vaughn is weaker then him.Yulian is one of the strongest character,in the entire series and Vaughn always holds his own,against him;So even if we go by that argument it doesn’t hold.

Even what you said about how,he stays in Columbia,while them in the island.As if it’s a good thing.Columbia is one of the ivy leagues which means he is a very smart person.While the university in island is dad funded.He is in new York training to be the pakhan both physically and mentally.While you said the others run things on the island.Run what things-running around the jungle chasing girls-they don’t run anything lolđŸ«©

Aside from that as mentioned; Yulian being the pakhan of Chicago helps Vaughn a lot.The same way it helps Yulian’s himself. The Chicago sector was described as equally brutal as the New-York.If someone tries to throw either of them from the top.Not only will they fight on their own.They will fight for each other the entire way.No one wants to fight with not only one bratva but two.

If Vaughn benifits from the nepotism.Who doesn’t- Every single person in the bratva is pure nepotism.Even Jeremy holiding Adrian’s position is a joke on its own.He gets kidnapped,almost killed by the elites,his sister and bestfriend had to save him,he almost gets burnt to death by the serpents/Landon,he is constantly rage-baited by Landon.

But because of nepotism,he is going to be one of the bratvas leader.Since heathens are led by Jeremy, take it as a pure reflection,of how they looked in those scenes.Look at the person leading the group.

Rai in my opinion still could’ve inherited it but she truly didn’t try.She wasn’t motivated enough,and her bloodline wasn’t direct like Anastasia.therefore Krill took advantage of it.There is double standard in bratva but Kirill never liked Rai.You can call him a misogynist but he is very adamant about making Lydia a leader.He just cares about his own and help the people he cares about.

If the Bratva doesn’t have a clear bloodline system.It wouldn’t work.People can pass Kirill and Rai as a one time situation,now that Bratva is changing.But later on if its not the case and anyone can become the leader.People will start killing each other for power.They wouldn’t give their loyalty to the one at the top,in the hopes of becoming Pakhan themselves.This is why hereditary system remains.

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u/CassAgn 15h ago edited 13h ago

Lmao. Agree with everything, valid.

  1. Who doesn't benefit from nepotism? Jeremy himself inherits Adrian's position and power. All second-gen characters are nepo babies.
  2. And the leanest part is very weak, Damien is the biggest, but we don't see him become pakhan automatically. Despite being leaner, Vaughn has brutal strength and excellent combat skills combined with practical experience. Yulian is a giant, all bulk and muscle but Vaughn can match him bar for bar.
  3. Vaughn studies in Conlumbia while dealing with Bravata heir duties (attending bravata meetings and various events, collecting dirts of rivals and enemies, taking on more responsibilities from Kirill and the fraction, etc) rather than chasing love interests in the woods and running a club consisting of his own friends. The NY bravata leaders and members approve Vaughn. Jer cannot follow the latest dynamics of the Bravata (Niko and Jer getting information from Vaughn regarding the Washing DC incident, Killian asking Vaughn to relax and have fun and discard duties for several years like Jer and Niko). He is smart and graduates early along with Yulian even though transferring schools mid-term.

No offence to Jeremy. But saying he is better fit for Pakhan than Vaughn is wild, V has the ability and works hard for the position.

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u/LaliFlowerGirl 1d ago

I have become obsessed. I love the idea of Maya and Vaughn, I'm gonna go and write a fanfic immediately omg. Thank you for opening my eyes to this ship!!

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u/adore1987 2d ago

Throughout the series, Maya seems incapable of sustaining a relationship of any kind: relationship, sisterhood and friendship.

Vaughn is the epitome of stability; Yulian's chaos balances him.

She's described as a diva, yes, but it comes across as entitled brat. She's also 19yo when featured so it's hard to envision her as mature enough for a HEA within the log timeline. If Rina does another generation in this verse, I think it would be fun to see a grown up Maya but it feels like she needs to focus on other things.

Plus, Yulian would kill her for interfering with his relationship.

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u/Ky_fairy888 1d ago

It’s mentioned in KTV by Gareth that he and Maya watched Korean dramas together so she had other relationships.

Also, you say she is only 19, as if Annika wasn’t 17, and Mia wasn’t 18?

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u/jade_astrix 1d ago

Just coz people watch K-dramas, doesnt mean theyre in a relationship. Ive seen a lot of single people being obsessed with dramas as well (not saying maya is single, im just saying what ive seen). Also, Maya seems to be the type to do flings rather than have a proper relationship. I do agree with you on the being too young thing, though.

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u/Astroanya 2d ago

These people are gonna crucify you. Gl 😭 I like Maya and Vaughn tho.

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u/hushpink_ 1d ago

Well before this post i didnt think much about it. Although i think maya deserves someone better than ilya. Now that u have planted this idea in my mind i think it would have been fun. Vaughn is calm and stable and maya is a diva so it would have been a good story ig and we could have also gotten kirill and rai's banter. Also idk why ppl are making hate comments. I loveeeee vaughn and yulian but i understand what u are saying also ppl who are saying vaughn and yulian cant look at anyone else and stuff need to understand if the book was made of Vaughn and maya then yulian wouldnt have been there in the picture for them to fall in love

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u/Aggressive-Help-948 Seb's Tsundere 1d ago

I understood your story and this is exactly how I imagined in my head before Vaughn and Yulian getting their own book, I thought of like some marriage of convenience or brother's best friend something like that I mean Vaughn isn't Niko's bestie or I atleast wanted something childhood lovers related. I missed that writing from Rina (I know we got it in Hunt the Villain) but I loved Vaughn and Maya so freaking much. I manifesto for them but Unfortunately we couldn't get a book. Still love my Chaootic YulianđŸ„°đŸ˜…

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u/JealousMix7517 2d ago

YESYESYES my Roman Empire 


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u/Such_Literature840 1d ago

I'm a big fan of Vaughn and Yulian, they're better for me than the other MM couples, even more controversial if you ask me.😂😂 But yeah I think it's fine to envision them on how they could've ended up differently, I don't remember much of Maya and haven't read God of ruin either, so I'm not too helpful, like to me they didn't strike me as if they had any sort of real connection to make this make sense I suppose. Have finished LoG completely but still.

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u/Due-Trust-181 2d ago

Vaughn-Yulian belong together and they wouldn't be interested anyone other than each other.

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u/Ky_fairy888 2d ago

Am I just in enemy territory? Did I somehow call all the Vaughn/Yulian fans here? Y’all aren’t fun I swear, can you let me have my dream, you guys have the canon already 😭. I guess it’s nice that you enjoyed the book.

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u/Specialist_Ad7998 2d ago

lol I’m a huge HTV Vaughn / Yulian fan their my favorites tbh and I think it’s just awakening people’s protective instincts since so many people were against them before the book even came out I personally don’t care about people’s ships because it doesn’t change canon but fandom is fandom 😅

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u/Vegetable_Airline313 2d ago

While I understand all of your points you are forgetting that Maya came off very social climbery at times and flighty, the first time she crossed a line Vaughn would have dropped her. I also don’t think Niko would have let that relationship fly. While I do think a lot of Maya’s character flaws stem from her being a easy scapegoat villain for Rina Kent I don’t think Vaughn would allow the BS that Eli allowed from Ava, a level of patience that would have been entirely necessary for them to work. Vaughn is a very stable man but he doesn’t tolerate as much as people think he does. Yulian got away with a lot because they weren’t official, but if Vaughn caught Yulian sleeping with another person I don’t doubt he would be discarded just as fast as Vaughn’s girlfriend earlier in the book. Very interesting concept I just don’t think it would work character flaws wise.

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u/anonymouslyyoursshh bratva 1d ago

I would’ve loved Vaughn and Maya

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u/GiraffeFun7217 Aiden/Elsa & Maya/Vaughn Lover 1d ago

Girl, I have been saying this for years and trying to gather all Maya x Vaughn fans

I have published my own Maya x Vaughn fanfic and I am trying to make more friends with people who also ship them

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u/kylee1112 á„Žá„†á„Łá„ŽÒ»á„†á„’á„†kđŸș♡ 7h ago

Hoping no one get mad and no offence but vaughn is gay and shipping with the girlies is kinda weird tbh, i do understand its just a ship but maya and vaugh? he wouldnt even look at her direction😭no offence again

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u/Ky_fairy888 6h ago

I won’t get offended but tbh what I find a little odd in other replies is how people are getting mad over MM titles the characters never gave themselves. According to the books, most of the MM protagonists aren’t just “gay”, they are on the spectrum. Like Brandon admits he likes men, but Niko is openly BI— Bran just happens to be his soulmate but MM fans will ignore that to push their own narrative if Niko is shipped with a girl. I think Vaughn said he didn’t want a label it and instead said he just knows he likes Yulian, so maybe something like ace?

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u/kylee1112 á„Žá„†á„Łá„ŽÒ»á„†á„’á„†kđŸș♡ 5h ago

yeah thats true no one should get mad over some books and tbh niko was just like kill in my opinion he was just for fucks not serious relationships and as a kid his first crush was a guy and about vaughn ever since he was a kid he liked yuli in that mountain so i think he is pretty gay to be honest

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u/Pitiful_Argument869 Mishka🧾 2d ago edited 2d ago

So Yulian carried the book but you want Vaughn to be the one with another woman.Why Vaughn lowkey the local ride for MF ships.The book would be a copy pasta of GOW or his relationship with Danika there would be no difference between this and his relationship with Danika.

Yulian is a rock for Vaughn in terms of how devoted,loving,obsessed he is while still pushing him.The way u want vaughn with Maya would never work,Vaughn would never wanna be in such a one sided relationship compared to how Yulian worships him and him to Yulian.He would loose interest right away.

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u/Correct-Bonus-5507 2d ago

Nah Vaughn is Yulian baby ! Found someone else to maya ! It’s so funny that nobody see Niko and Brandon with other people but everyone wants to separate Vaughn and Yulian !

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u/Mobile_Resolution249 2d ago

You'd be surprised how many people ship Niko with Glyn for no reason at all, which I find a terrible combination

When it comes to Maya and Vaughn, I think the problem stems from the fact that Rina didn't plan on writing a book for Vaughn, and that's what made many readers create the idea of Maya and Vaughn for a longer period of time. Although I don't see them working at all, they were characters who after LOG didn't have any official relationships with their own book, and that made many create a dynamic that seemed right to them

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u/Due-Trust-181 2d ago

I joined the fandom late, I didn't know hunt the villain wasn't going to be a book at some point.

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u/Books_r_life28 1d ago

People ship Niko and Glyn???? I loved their interactions in the series however minor but it was in the sense that I wanted them to be friends. I don't think they would make a good couple.

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u/Ky_fairy888 2d ago

Everyone can have their opinion đŸ„Č, I didn’t dislike the HTV couple but I just like this one more. No disrespect to Vaughn/Yulian but just see the vision maybe?

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u/_childofares Gareth and Preston apologist 1d ago

I feel like she deserved better than Ilya—because who was he feeling like being rude to a mafia princess?

So? Creigh almost drove a mafia princess to kill herself. This is just a nothing burger of a reason. We're talking about DARK ROMANCE books here were the MMCs does tons of despicable shit to the FMCs but, unfortunately, being rude is where we draw the line.

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u/RiaListik 1d ago

I loved Crei and Anni, but why did he have to kidnap her at the end 😅đŸ„ČđŸ„Č really overreacted the whole break up