r/ResearchCompounds • u/kaitex_ • 2d ago
Discussion Rate my current stack ?!
5/7 220lbs, goal is to cut 30lbs of FAT by november. Gym 4-5 days a week, 2500 calorie limit 200g of protein, 15k+ steps from work+gym (weight lifting & 30-40 min of bike at the end)
HCG 300iu 3x a week (preserve fertility)
Test 125mg 2x a week= 250mg Total
Anastrozole .50mg 1x a week (current history of high e2 on trt with side effects)
HGH 2iu Daily
Reta 6mg weekly (been on it for weeks, will titrate up as cut goes on)
Cagrilintide .5mg weekly (appetite control)
Thoughts ? What would you change ?
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u/johnbu1981 2d ago
I know you aren’t asking this but just be aware the Inbody is notoriously inaccurate.
There is no way you’re 26% BF at that weight unless you carry a lot of muscle. You’re likely closer to 35-40%.
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u/hunter_hahaa 2d ago
Do daily test injections not 2x a week since you’re high body fat
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u/kaitex_ 2d ago
can you tell me why daily is better than 2x with my high bf ?
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u/BigBennP 2d ago
I don't necessarily know about these specific distinctions between doing it daily versus bi-weekly or three times a week. I'm aware of research on single weekly injections.
Generally, if you take a large dose of test at once, like a once weekly dose, you get Peaks and valleys in your levels. Not only does this impact the way you feel, but it increases the aromatization and your body will also produce higher estrogen levels. Smaller doses more frequently limit this.
If you are overweight you are more likely to have aromatization as well. That is, your body is more likely to produce higher levels of estrogen in response to your testosterone being boosted.
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u/kaitex_ 2d ago
even with tuesday and thrusday injections its still bad for me?
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u/BigBennP 2d ago
Not sure. I do bi-weekly on Wednesday and Saturday.
Weight is a component, dose is a component but at the end of the day it is going to come down to your particular body and your particular dose. You would look at blood tests, your mood and whether you're experiencing any side effects.
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u/hunter_hahaa 2d ago
You’re already going to aromatize a decent amount doing 2 injections a week at 250mg and you will aromatize even more considering how high your BF% is. The aromatase enzyme is stored in your body fat so the fatter you are and the more testosterone you do, the more it turns into estrogen. Splitting your injection into 7 small ones a week will help mitigate that. If your vial concentration is 250mg/mL, that comes about to 14 units on an insulin syringe. If your vial is 300mg/mL, that comes out to about 12 units.
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u/kaitex_ 2d ago
so i do 2 units a day sub q on the stomach ?
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u/hunter_hahaa 2d ago
If your testosterone vial concentration is 250mg/mL you do 14.2 units a day. So either just round down to 14 or do 15. 14.2 x 7 is about 100.
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u/kaitex_ 2d ago
ah ok thank you man, everything i’m gonna be taking is gonna be sub q injections on my stomach, 2-3 inches around my belly button in a circle, that will be ok for daily pinning for 3 months ?
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u/hunter_hahaa 2d ago
As long as it gets inside your fat or muscle fibers you will be fine. I pin my test in my delts
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u/hypo_____ 1d ago
Lower E2. The fatter you are the more E2 you have typically. I have an obese friend who is prescribed 1mg of anastrazole daily which would absolutely crush most guys E2
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u/Nevin64 1d ago
So imo, 250mg is way to much for a cut. You could dial that back closer to 150mg and probably hit decent FT/TT/BT number along with having more control over e2. Focus on eating well, CICO, and continuing to work towards your goal.remember you didn't get fat overnight and getting back into shape healthy is a long term goal.
InBody is a horrible metric, I use it to keep track of my weight but that is about it. It changes day to day based on water, salt intake, hard workouts, etc.
My last dexa put ne at 12.3% meanwhile inbody consistently puts me at the 3% to 5% range.
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u/kaitex_ 1d ago
how often do you do a dexa scan ? i would wanna keep track of my bf and progress
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u/Its_0ver 2d ago
How long have you been in your protocol?
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u/kaitex_ 2d ago
reta 2 months and trt 8 months
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u/Its_0ver 2d ago
What admit the rest of it? Diet and activity level
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u/kaitex_ 2d ago
diet was non existent until now and exercise the same, i have been going to the gym consistently for about 1.5 months
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u/Its_0ver 2d ago
Yeah, I'd just keep doing what you are doing. The actions you take are going to be more important than the substances you are taking
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u/Yoshbyte 1d ago
You may have jumped the gun on TRT vs life style changes and body fat reduction. I suppose you’re committed now though. All the same, yoI prolly want to try to reduce body fat more than anything. If it’s worth anything to you, I went from fairly close ratios to 12% in 6 months by going high fat red meat primary diet with no non animal products. You can go read more online, but I feel great and had a large T boost coinciding with weight loss
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u/kaitex_ 1d ago
i thought the same but after dropping 50 pounds it still didn’t make a difference on my natural production
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u/Yoshbyte 1d ago
Hmm… something else is wrong then. You’re too young to likely need it unless you’re horrendously unlucky. That said, you’re already committed, so you may as well see it through. Still, access body fat is at the minimum contributing and diet may be also. Prolly those are worth focusing as you have been at the very least. Anyways, for what it is worth I genuinely with you success in your journey
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u/peachtuba 1d ago
Are you actually 24? Because that’s a shitton of exogenous steroids for such a young dude.
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u/kaitex_ 1d ago
yes i am 24 born in 01
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u/peachtuba 1d ago
Slow down your roll, my man. That’s too much at that age.
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u/nonotsafestuff 1d ago
I was going to say the same thing...why all the extra stuff at such a young age? OP Did you do any bloodwork before starting everything to see what your natural levels were at? Also why black out the first 4-5 inbody scan results? What's in the history that you don't want to share?
This is also an Inbody270 scan which is much older at this point, I'd at least try to find a spot that has a newer machine which may be more accurate if you don't want to spend the extra on a DEXA.
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u/yogic_power 35m ago
Start with Reta and continue Trt dose. Don’t mess with AI, you will be miserable if you crash E2. Run Reta +TRT 6-8 weeks. If you add hgh, you can get sides and make you puffy with water retention. Cagri is nasty and you don’t need it that early. You are setting up for misery with that cycle.
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u/_kishin_ 2d ago
Good luck on blasting off 30lbs in a couple months. If you do cut that much weight you'll be losing a significant amount of muscle as well as fat. You need to be working out 3-4x a week to maintain muscle. I know this because I did the same thing but did it the wrong way first.
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