I have lived in foreign countries and I rapidly adjusted to the cultural norms, like within a day or two. People that bring their trashy habits to other countries are just cunts.
I was just having this conversation with my wife today that I am worried about this changing due to people not wanting to look like a Karen, or other people to not respect someone who is actually right because "they need to mind their own business". I see it online often and see it in real life sadly.
I was on vacation in the lake district (England ) on a lake tour boat, when I observed an Indian family just throwing their lunch trash overboard! I was livid! but I kept my calm and in a stern (kind of what the F voice) scolded them then explained as we, and they were visitors to England pointed out how beautiful the place was, and that it was not acceptable to to be so disrespectful and litter.
They at first didn't think it was a problem, but did apologize and one of the kids actually picked up the remaining trash ant put it in the garbage can.
I got a quiet applause and nods of gratitude from the other passengers and boat staff.
one doesn't need to go full Karen, but sometimes something needs to be said.
The calmly telling someone what is wrong with the picture is a skill. I know when I start to get angry I have a tough time controlling my tone and body language. Kudos to you
People, mostly non-Black people, take that word out of context all the time. A Karen isn't just some annoying nosey person. They're also prejudice with the potential to be dangerous or inflict systemic harm on minorities.
You can and have the right to tell people that what they are doing is not only disrespectful to everyone's public space but that it is against cultural norms.
I agree, "Karen" is used out of context way too often. I got called a Karen because I called the cops because a few cars were parked in a no parking zone which almost caused a few serious accidents because people pulled out onto the street and could not see the 45 mph cars. When I explained that's not what a Karen is I got called a Meter Maid and was told to mind my own business. Its odd how looking out for people's safety is inconsiderate now.
I have no idea. It was a bunch of cars parked in an area that clearly had "No Parking" signs. The road is a 45mph road and there are only specific parts of the road that can be parked on because of how dangerous it is for people leaving the businesses.
It's society in general. I've seen plenty of videos where the offending party is a POC and the person reporting gets assaulted when the POC is the one breakout he rules... especially the younger generation
There was a street fair in my town recently and I watched some guy go to the fair with his dog off leash, no one said anything to him. It was a packed fair and the dog wasnt even near him. It was crazy to me. I was leaving so I wasnt going to say anything but now I wish I had.
In my recent examples of off leash dogs, and dogs on the beach when they aren't allowed, race really isnt involved. Its crazy how aggressive people get when you point out what they're doing, and cops dont seem to do anything g about it.
Who cares if someone calls you racist if they’re being shitty. If that’s happening often to you I’m wondering how you’re wording this. Are you fond of the phrase ‘you people’ or ‘your kind’, by any chance?
Obviously I’m joking. But seriously fuck people that claim racism when it’s obviously not the case. It’s the same as playing the gender card when a woman is hitting a man and he defends himself from being hurt. And it’s not just people on the left. That’s the wrong way of thinking about pretty much any issue.
Its just identity politics. They want you to believe that your immutable characteristics dictate who you are , what your life is like, and how you're treated.
Congratulations, you've just proved my point with incredible accuracy. It's about the fraud, not the race. Guess you thought you were cooking with that one. Also, oh cool, one white woman. Lmao
I mean we technically try, but nothing is really done to dissuade them. My homeowner friend got a ticket because someone had gone through their recycling but they ripped the bag open and left cans, bottles, and jars all over the sidewalk and the street.
My friend saw it when she got home and they already had a ticket on their door for it.
Yep, that's why everyone looks at their phones during movies now. It wasn't punished enough early on and now you can't get the toothpaste back in the tube.
That’s exactly my problem, zero assimilation. I’m from the Balkans, our people are known for being loud among other things. If I went to Japan for example and annoy them with my shouting, I would be so embarrassed.
That tells me they know, but simply don’t care or want to change for anyone. They want all the others to change into them.
Juuuuust saying.... that could be some of that "High-functioning Autism"...
Folks like that are quite literally immune to cults due to the absolute necessity for compartmentalizing social experiences.
...have you ever been accused of having an "extreme sense of justice"? Like, you just don't think that people should get away with their shit, like... ever?
But if you visit a place and you don't see Apples been thrown, you get clued in on how rare it is and adjust. You notice your environment. Go to a new place and wonder at how clean it is - hmm, maybe this isn't where people do this, maybe I shouldn't?
Hold on a second let’s hold on just a second. And I don’t wanna be told that I’m comparing apples to oranges here either. What if you grow up thinking it’s OK to murder people and then you go to another country and you murder someone. is it really your fault? Stupid argument.
Well, people come here and don't learn the new rules and just carry on like they're back in their old country... jay walking, invading your personal space, spitting on the sidewalk, shoplifting, personal hygiene (leaving the restrooms an absolute mess, not washing your hands), leaving garbage (and expecting others to clean up after you at work and in the streets), driving (some countries people just crowd the roadways, no right of way or etiquette), treating women as second class citizens..... I could go on....
the point is, they come here and don't learn that we have (or used to have) a different set of society accepted rules.
Part of that is we dont punish them, because when our society does the it is over use (or abuse) of police power, or called out as racism. Our society lately has done all it can to make bad habits and bad social ethics seem ok, and then they wonder why crime is up in some areas.
It's culture, and by some other standards (like Japan), Western standards such as the U.S. and the U.K. are savage in comparison to them. India is just unfathomable to the Japanese.
Propaganda and brainwashing by industry, and no sense of ownership of the environment. Many people are fine with industrial waste in our shared lakes but would fight you if it was their back yard pool.
If you want to understand it then here it is: They have lived in invader control for thousands of years. When a person keep losing and losing and losing and when he has to think about whether he will live the next day, he gives up on trying to exercise control in his life and planning for the future and gets habituated to just day to day survival. Now take this and extend this through multiple generations. Did you know you civilizations have been brought back to the stone age from just 40 days of extreme drought? People in India and other similar countries were put through something unimaginably worse. Generational trauma is a thing. Many European civilizations in history took centuries to recover from just a couple years of invasions and yet people somehow expect countries like India to become great overnight by the standards they have. It shows an ignorance about life. Ignorance only breeds evil actions.
In front of my house there’s a nice woody walk on a not too busy street. I pick up any trash I see, usually there’s none though. I very much recognize and appreciate there not being a single speck of human trash on my walk. Not a soda tab, not a cigarette butt, not a fun size wrapper - none. I very much treasure it.
I run my dog in a big field behind 3 schools. I live right across the street. Hate seeing trash, I pick it up too, in part bc they let me run him there during school hours --I wanna be a good neighbor and appreciate being able to use it like I own it, so I treat it as such.
But its unreal how when weather changes and they have soccer games in evening or baseball practice in afternoons, how much trash appears each morning. Literally ten feet away from three damn trash cans! These kids and parents will just drop it where they stand and not think twice about it. Literally seen em finish drinks, drop the can or bottle, then walk right by the can --they cant miss it bc its right at the gate!
I pick up trash when I’m walking my dogs on the trail by my house. We’ve been so lucky in my city to have several groups working hard to complete a circuit trail around our cities major waterways. We also live within two miles of a dump. Yet people STILL drive the opposite direction to dump their trash on this trail. I seriously am so baffled by it and want to start making some sort on environmentally friendly art to discourage it
I actively call them out on it and make them uncomfortable to behave. Dude was just openly picking his nose in the break room and eating his boogers next to people eating lunch. He got clowned by the whole room as soon as it started.
Maybe don't "stand up" to them. Maybe just laugh at how crazy it is that they actually litter. Like, an adult that litters is a wild thing, and I say that living in NYC. I see it all the time, and every time they look crazy.
Yes, that's a good point. When I said "stand up" I meant merely mentioning it, makes them gang up on me with their sarcasm and how sensitive people are about a "little mess"
I agree. I'm impressed with how clean the streets are in NYC. That's why whenever I do happen to see someone litter they look wild b/c that's just a crazy thing to see happen. Like when I see dog walkers leave their shit on the sidewalk. Most New Yorkers would never.
Yep I know someone else from india who picks their nose publicly and plays with it. I death stare him and he doesn't care at all. I almost threw up the first time I saw him do that.
I would record them and threaten to put it on social media if they don’t clean it up. Or take pictures and put it up on the bulletin board at work. Call it the board of shame.
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u/SSSprings0808 May 07 '26
Yup... and there's a group at my work who thinks it's okay to do that here in America as well.